Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[Gnasher]

More from Craig Murray on the same subject

 

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/10/suspending-catalan-parliament-spain-destroys-eus-rule-law-figleaf/amp/

[cloggypop]

Brilliant

 

@mattgreencomedy: Brexit increasingly feels like a man in his 50s getting divorced because he can’t wait to get on Tinder and meet loads of 20 year olds.

[moof]

In my opinion, on balance it's better than Catalunya stays within Spain and the EU, but violence against peaceful citizens is never ok.

 

I'm not sure what the EU can actually do to involve themselves in the affairs of a sovereign nation, without being accused of overstepping their boundary. Their power over the security and policing of individual nations has always been fairly limited, has it not?

 

Seems like lots of people are experiencing levels of cognitive dissonance over this issue.

 

I agree with the message that we need unity and stability, that means trying to hold together the treaties that have kept Europe relatively peaceful and prosperous over the past 60 odd years.

 

But, yes Gnasher, I recognise that the EU is very fucking far from perfect. Still.

[Rico1304]

So, many of the countries we were told would be dying to trade with us are...well,

http://www.politico.eu/article/us-rounds-on-britain-over-food-quotas-as-post-brexit-trade-woes-deepen/

What about this Gnasher?

[Strontium]

What about this Gnasher?

 

If we nationalise everything, we only need to trade with ourselves. Or something.

[Rico1304]

Gnasher???

 

https://twitter.com/brexitbin/status/915693463059992576

[Boss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4JMdeh4NG8

[skend04]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/07/theresa-may-secret-advice-brexit-eu

[Strontium]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4JMdeh4NG8

 

Not sure an MEP who was elected as a member of the far-right AfD is coming at things from a totally objective perspective.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Anyone who doesn't realise Brexit isn't a massive fuck up deserves all that is coming to them. I'm not on about the actual referendum result, which in all honesty was gained due to lies and empty promises, but the ineptitude of those bungling their way through the aftermath and the absolute fucking bell ends who believe all the bullshit due to their eagerness to see their crumbling empire restored. They are gonna get well and truly fucked by those who they claim to despise, and unfortunately take everyone down with them. The Uk still held a bit of respect within the EU, the rest of the World will fuck you in every orifice and give you back less than you had. Sad times for decent folk. 

[Rico1304]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/07/theresa-may-secret-advice-brexit-eu

[magicrat]

Anyone who doesn't realise Brexit isn't a massive fuck up deserves all that is coming to them. I'm not on about the actual referendum result, which in all honesty was gained due to lies and empty promises, but the ineptitude of those bungling their way through the aftermath and the absolute fucking bell ends who believe all the bullshit due to their eagerness to see their crumbling empire restored. They are gonna get well and truly fucked by those who they claim to despise, and unfortunately take everyone down with them. The Uk still held a bit of respect within the EU, the rest of the World will fuck you in every orifice and give you back less than you had. Sad times for decent folk.

 

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The cunts all know it's a fuck up but are too arrogant and selfish to put the country before ambition

[Guest Pistonbroke]

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The cunts all know it's a fuck up but are too arrogant and selfish to put the country before ambition

 

Is it arrogance mate? I reckon it is more down to pure nationalism, they really do think that being White and part of an Empire long lost is above others. The majority of those voting leave probably haven't got a clue about their own history, they just listen to the right wing rhetoric and lap it up. 

[magicrat]

Is it arrogance mate? I reckon it is more down to pure nationalism, they really do think that being White and part of an Empire long lost is above others. The majority of those voting leave probably haven't got a clue about their own history, they just listen to the right wing rhetoric and lap it up.

 

Its all of that and more mate

For the sake of self advancement sociopathic cunts pander to thick cunts that look back to the days of a white homogeneous society and believe it's possible to wind back the clock. The question that never gets asked is why it's desirable to live in a monoculture anyway

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Its all of that and more mate

For the sake of self advancement sociopathic cunts pander to thick cunts that look back to the days of a white homogeneous society and believe it's possible to wind back the clock. The question that never gets asked is why it's desirable to live in a monoculture anyway

 

Possibly, a lot of people are just thick as fuck though. Unfortunately you get a lot of educated people who are like minded with the knuckle draggers. They are clever enough to cover the subject they studied in but haven't got a clue about general knowledge, especially the mistakes mankind has made. 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

That is a tough question. What are the benefits of staying in the EU?

 

Money being put into projects that the British Gov't deem unnecessary. 

 

Workers rights. 

 

A court higher than any national jurisdiction. This really is more important than many think. 

 

Trade deals on your doorstep, which kind of makes it easier to save money in the big scheme of trading. 

 

Freedom of movement between those countries who are members of the EU. Not everyone wants to be shackled to a certain country.

 

It saves you spunking a shit load of money to get a worse deal that that you already had.  

[cloggypop]

This Dutch view of the English is long but very good

 

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/how-i-learnt-to-loathe-england

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Money being put into projects that the British Gov't deem unnecessary.

 

Workers rights.

 

A court higher than any national jurisdiction. This really is more important than many think.

 

Trade deals on your doorstep, which kind of makes it easier to save money in the big scheme of trading.

 

Freedom of movement between those countries who are members of the EU. Not everyone wants to be shackled to a certain country.

 

It saves you spunking a shit load of money to get a worse deal that that you already had.

28 countries who can't/won't resort to war to settle their differences.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

28 countries who can't/won't resort to war to settle their differences.

 

Probably the most important one, apologies for missing that. 

[Strontium]

That is a tough question. What are the benefits of staying in the EU?

 

If only we had a 750+ page thread discussing that very issue.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

This Dutch view of the English is long but very good

 

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/how-i-learnt-to-loathe-england

 

I read that earlier today thanks to some FB link. Although I don't agree with everything he had to say it was a fair appraisal. 

 

I was speaking to my future son in law today and he mentioned something which hit home today. He said that a lot of the German Jugend think 'Fuck those arrogant English (note the lack of UK, just English) cunts, we don't need them.' 

 

Living over here I find the majority of Germans ironically Liberal as they have lived through many years of guilt. They seem to have learned that mistakes in the past should not be repeated. Many in the UK forget about past misdemeanours and want to return to the dark days, they revel in thw wars and fully believe they won all the major wars despite the efforts and help of many other nations, thick fucking cunts. 

[Gnasher]

28 countries who can't/won't resort to war to settle their differences.

What a load of nonsense. What is the purpose of nato? Do you agree with the eu response to Catalonia?

[Lee909]

 What is the purpose of nato? 

 

To fuck the Russians off

[Gnasher]

To fuck the Russians off

Theres an element of truth in that and the eu seems to have taken up the mantle.

[Gnasher]

Probably the most important one, apologies for missing that.

 

Probably the most important one, apologies for missing that.

 

To those who seem to believe the eu is like the Von trapp family in the sound of music, singing songs on the mountain tops of europe to keep us safe in our beds, here's a clip of the eu's smarmy arrogance to a valid question on Catalonia from a few days ago. I posted it in the craig murray link further up the page.

 

 

 

https://youtu.be/jTUhEtUVo1I