Is Klopp another Rodgers?

[Grinch]

God knows I had some nasty run ins with NV over Rodgers when he was first hired. However I totally get what he is saying. If you had actually read and understood his posts over the past couple of years you would see there is a logic to his "different path" post. 

 

Personally I think Rodgers just isn't very good at his job but its also clear that whatever "philosophy" or "identity" Rodgers once claimed to be pursuing is now totally absent. 

 

Imo Rodgers abandoned that "philosophy" around xmas time in his season, a good job too since he was in Hodgson territory results wise.  In came Coutinho and Sturridge and we stopped fucking about with the ball at the back when losing games and switched to a counter attacking side.  The results were then excellent for 18 months for the most part but it was as far removed as his original death by football talk as the shite on a stick football we've witnessed since.

[stringvest]

THe philosophy lasted a few months, no more. He then bullshitted himself into more corners than Steven Gerrard took. Oh for the days of a non-bullshitting manager. Sadly they disappeared at around the same time as our league titles.

[Bjornebye]

Any top half team with Suarez playing the way he was playing that season was going to be a contender. He was fucking superhuman every match until we started playing Johnson again and it all went tits up.

 

We have won 5 out of our last 14 league games. 11 scored 22 conceded. 

[M_B]

We have won 5 out of our last 14 league games. 11 scored 22 conceded. 

 

Have a little faith Bjornebye, have a little faith.

 

[clangers]

We have won 5 out of our last 14 league games. 11 scored 22 conceded. 

 

Horrific, isn't it something like we've only scored more than one goal in a match twice in the last fifteen games?

[Bjornebye]

Horrific, isn't it something like we've only scored more than one goal in a match twice in the last fifteen games?

 

In this day in age it is a statistic that would see far better managers get fucked right off. 

[KMD7]

Hope we keep losing

[Hades]

"At Liverpool, even without anyone demanding it of me, I forced myself to do things to help the team to work." - Luis Suarez

 

"When there was a bad game I was always criticized. I took it internally and it hurt me." - Luis Suarez

 

 

Rodgers improved Suarez my arse. Serial winner leaves and side with shit players and shit manager becomes shit shocker.

[an tha]

If FSG had the nous to realise they fucked up giving Rodgers a reprieve at the end of last season and acted swiftly now to remove him they would go up in my estimation.

 

I see no point in continuing on the path we are on and just delaying and delaying unless of course they just want mediocrity....

[Zak D'Indermorden]

If FSG had the nous to realise they fucked up giving Rodgers a reprieve at the end of last season and acted swiftly now to remove him they would go up in my estimation.

 

I see no point in continuing on the path we are on and just delaying and delaying unless of course they just want mediocrity....

 

You might have a point there. 

 

 

Appoint a manager well above his level and he won't complain, not while he's buying houses and dealing with his mid life crisis.

 

 

Appoint a CEO that knows more about the commercial side than football, because it's all about making as much money as possible.

 

 

Appoint a TC that will buy as much potential as possible for a decent hedge at a resale. 

 

 

Make the fans forget about a new stadium, when a new stand will get the corporate seats required. 

 

 

Stifle any chance of protest by implementing a new system for flags and banners.

 

 

Gillet and Hicks with better PR. If anyone thinks they will sack Brendan and appoint Klopp then think again, he's doing exactly what Hodgson attempted when he was employed by the previous owners. He just isn't as stupid as Hodgson. Very slick operators FSG, they have most still fooled.

[Carra's_comb_over]

Rodgers improved Suarez my arse. Serial winner leaves and side with shit players and shit manager becomes shit shocker.

 

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AFuKkM-tqN0

[Redder Lurtz]

You might have a point there.

 

 

Appoint a manager well above his level and he won't complain, not while he's buying houses and dealing with his mid life crisis.

 

 

Appoint a CEO that knows more about the commercial side than football, because it's all about making as much money as possible.

 

 

Appoint a TC that will buy as much potential as possible for a decent hedge at a resale.

 

 

Make the fans forget about a new stadium, when a new stand will get the corporate seats required.

 

 

Stifle any chance of protest by implementing a new system for flags and banners.

 

 

Gillet and Hicks with better PR. If anyone thinks they will sack Brendan and appoint Klopp then think again, he's doing exactly what Hodgson attempted when he was employed by the previous owners. He just isn't as stupid as Hodgson. Very slick operators FSG, they have most still fooled.

Hard to argue with that.

[Section_31]

Don't agree with the FSG/G&H comparissons, if anything they've been guilty of listening too much to the fans. 

 

First thing they did was appoint every rent-a-blert with a Twitter account to give them advice and did things like appoint Dalglish on a permanent basis rather than take a dispassionate look at things and backed him with a huge amount of cash, breaking our transfer record more than once  but with all of it going on shite. 

 

They then gave it to Rodgers and he spent all that on shite too. Don't see how any of that is their fault to be honest. If they're trying to do things on the cheap, then spending £35 million on players isn't a very subtle way of doing it. 

 

That's not to say they're any good though, they're amateur hour in all their dealings and they clearly think football and liverpool are a distant second in their sporting and business portfolio. That doesn't make them asset strippers though, just stupid. 

[Jairzinho]

They realised the way to rinse a big football club isn't to asset strip it, but to increase the value of the club by far more money than you've put in, then flog it.

[Zak D'Indermorden]

Of course the club has needed a way to tap in to that commercial side for years, something I feel Ayre should be doing as a job in itself. Not having him involved in the football side of things at all. 

 

 

My comparison with G&H was more about they wanted the fans expectations lowered, they know putting up a league challenge each year takes more money than they ever wanted to spend. Over the years expectations have successfully been lowered to the point where a lot of fans are accepting over £100m of spending to equal 6th place. 

 

 

What we have is a manager that has successfully lowered this club down to his level and owners that appear to find that completely acceptable. More worryingly we have some fans that accept it too. 

[RobbieOR]

Of course the club has needed a way to tap in to that commercial side for years, something I feel Ayre should be doing as a job in itself. Not having him involved in the football side of things at all. 

 

 

My comparison with G&H was more about they wanted the fans expectations lowered, they know putting up a league challenge each year takes more money than they ever wanted to spend. Over the years expectations have successfully been lowered to the point where a lot of fans are accepting over £100m of spending to equal 6th place. 

 

 

What we have is a manager that has successfully lowered this club down to his level and owners that appear to find that completely acceptable. More worryingly we have some fans that accept it too. 

 

Expectations have been lowered because the club was the on the verge of going bust and the top four have much bigger resources. I don't see the point in expecting what we had under Rafa to return any time soon.

[Zak D'Indermorden]

Expectations have been lowered because the club was the on the verge of going bust and the top four have much bigger resources. I don't see the point in expecting what we had under Rafa to return any time soon.

 

A few weeks after they sacked him? I was talking about Hodgson initially and his mess of an attempt to lower fans expectations. Rafa wanted this player and that player so he could continue that push forward, dangerous for G&H as it costs money. 

 

 

Same with these owners, they just decided to put a man in a job who had potential instead of some proven manager that might know from day one what he wanted. Certainly a well respected and experienced manager would never have put up with TC buys that were bought in  case they could improve in value. 

 

 

Brendan will take the fans anger but the real blame lies beyond him. Somewhere in that mist of uncertainty. 

[Russ Atmosphere]

Expectations have been lowered because the club was the on the verge of going bust and the top four have much bigger resources. I don't see the point in expecting what we had under Rafa to return any time soon.

 

We can regularly be fifth though can't we, and compete to the end of the Europa league more often than not?

[RobbieOR]

We can regularly be fifth though can't we, and compete to the end of the Europa league more often than not?

 

Fifth yes. Not sure whether I'd be putting much stock into the Europa League though. 

[Grinch]

We can't compete with Arsenal. The team that brought in a keeper on a free in the summer whilst Rodgers had a huge budget for the fourth year running.

 

Wenger/Rodgers is the big difference, not finances

[Russ Atmosphere]

We can't compete with Arsenal. The team that brought in a keeper on a free in the summer whilst Rodgers had a huge budget for the fourth year running.

 

Wenger/Rodgers is the big difference, not finances

Like Spurs can't compete with us.

[TheHowieLama]

They realised the way to rinse a big football club isn't to asset strip it, but to increase the value of the club by far more money than you've put in, then flog it.

[magicrat]

They realised the way to rinse a big football club isn't to asset strip it, but to increase the value of the club by far more money than you've put in, then flog it.

When do we get to the last bit . I feel like I've been flogged to death already

[Jairzinho]

When do we get to the last bit . I feel like I've been flogged to death already

 

Shortly after Simon Cowell officially opens the new Starbucks Haliburton Google Corporate Stand.

[Pureblood]

 

 

Rodgers had a huge budget for the fourth year running

 

Eh?

 

"You can bid for Clint Dempsey if you sell Jordan Henderson.  It's probably best to wait until the very end of the transfer window.  Trust us, we know.  Welcome to LFC and enjoy your huge budget, Mr Rodgers".