The shitness of modern football

[VladimirIlyich]

6 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

I'm sure its already been mentioned on here (possible even by me) but I need to vent about it. This fucking holding your hand over your mouth when talking to each other on the pitch. I'm not talking about a quick word in the ear before a corner that you don't want the opposition to hear, I'm taking about every fucking time they speak. Normally walking off at half or full time. Often not even to one of their own teammates. What are you slags saying to each other? Arranging a cock wrestle back in the hotel? I bet it fucking is you over-paid thick sly twats. Ive even seen managers do it. The game has gone to shit. 

Marcelo Bielsa has spies everywhere though.

[SammyAftershave]

I suspect they're all discussing hookups with James Corden in Wolverhampton.

[VladimirIlyich]

6 hours ago, 3 Stacks said:

Wolves being seen as a sympathetic underdog story. They've got Chinese owners and the most powerful agent in world football redirecting players to them. They're poison like PSG and Man City but on a lower scale. 

But the team they beat today have got Moshiri and Uncle Uzzy's billions. Should be wiping the floor with them.

[TheHowieLama]

On 12/21/2018 at 11:55 AM, TheHowieLama said:

Having to listen to yet another manager tell me how good Mesut Ozil is even though he has been dropped by said manager.

 

On 1/1/2019 at 2:14 PM, TheHowieLama said:

Having to listen to Mesut Ozil rule out loan moves every January

 

On 1/15/2019 at 6:45 AM, TheHowieLama said:

 

 

Having to listen to said manager say Mesut Ozil is available for transfer.

Having to listen to people saying Mesut Ozil shouldn't be on the bench

[KMD7]

 

Poor Claude's had enough, again.

[Guest]

Nantes have demanded the first payment of the transfer fee for Sala - they are still trying to recover the body as far as I am aware and they are already after the cash. 

 

Truly and wholly deserving of a Shitness of Modern Football award.

[Remmie]

1 hour ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

Nantes have demanded the first payment of the transfer fee for Sala - they are still trying to recover the body as far as I am aware and they are already after the cash. 

 

Truly and wholly deserving of a Shitness of Modern Football award.

The deal was completed and the payment is due now. What recovery has to do with that I have no idea. 

 

If Cardiff are using the situation to try and get out of paying on time they are the pricks in this. 

[Anny Road]

WBA vs BHA The fantastic FA cup on the BBC. Empty ground.

[Barrington Womble]

38 minutes ago, Remmie said:

The deal was completed and the payment is due now. What recovery has to do with that I have no idea. 

 

If Cardiff are using the situation to try and get out of paying on time they are the pricks in this. 

By all accounts it's down to Cardiff not being willing to pay. Ssn tonight going on with shit like "Cardiff have question marks over the ownership of the plane". So fucking what? He was a Cardiff player. They made plenty of it at the weekend. They had a press release when he joined. It's unlucky, but tough shit. Do they think Nantes rigged the plane?! 

[General Dryness]

Don't clubs insure their players against things like this I.e. death? 

[VladimirIlyich]

1 hour ago, General Dryness said:

Don't clubs insure their players against things like this I.e. death? 

I thought this too. Its bloody stupid to not insure something/somebody who you've just paid millions for. If Cardiff hadn't have signed him he'd still be in France,alive.

[No2]

He was injured for 16m like all other players in their squad according to the Guardian. 

[Aventus]

7 hours ago, No2 said:

He was injured for 16m like all other players in their squad according to the Guardian. 

I'd say its a little bit more than an injury. 

[Bjornebye]

1 hour ago, Aventus said:

I'd say its a little bit more than an injury. 

I shouldn’t laugh but I’ve just nearly shit my spleen out 

[SammyAftershave]

Shitto  Ditto.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/two-ex-liverpool-stars-offering-15795372

 

Fucking Hell!

[ZonkoVille77]

15 hours ago, VladimirIlyich said:

I thought this too. Its bloody stupid to not insure something/somebody who you've just paid millions for. If Cardiff hadn't have signed him he'd still be in France,alive.

 

"Cardiff murdered new player"

[ZonkoVille77]

16 minutes ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/two-ex-liverpool-stars-offering-15795372

 

Fucking Hell!

 

Anyone who pays for that needs to be chemically castrated.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

1 minute ago, Sparticustard said:

 

Anyone who pays for that needs to be chemically castrated.

 Met Pennant once, briefly. Cunt of a man.

[Dr Nowt]

The 2018/19 Premier League title race: Expose the ‘fraud’

The 2018/19 Premier League title race: Expose the ‘fraud’

 

Date published: Thursday 7th February 2019 7:56

 

 

When Liverpool’s official account tweeted the starting XI selected by Jurgen Klopp on Monday night, it provoked a wave of abusive replies from those purporting to be supporters of the club. The principal subject of their disdain was Adam Lallana, an England international picked to play in central midfield due to injuries suffered by Georginio Wijnaldum and Jordan Henderson.

 

‘Now for the real team,’ was the typical reply. One included a gif of a cartoon suicide, another of someone pulling a noose over their neck. At least some were happy, albeit hardly in a supportive fashion: they expressed delight that Wijnaldum and Henderson had suffered knocks because they disliked seeing them in their team.

 

Of course, Lallana played well. He drove forward, protected the ball and looked to provide the link between the midfield and Liverpool’s front three, because that is what he always does. But by full-time, with Liverpool drawing 1-1, Lallana was no longer the story.

 

Suddenly Liverpool supporters on social media expressed concern that their team was ‘bottling the title’. Search on Twitter for ‘Klopp sacked’ if you think that’s the worst of the extreme reaction. Yes, Klopp should be sacked if Liverpool don’t win the league.

 

For what it’s worth, Liverpool are on course to achieve the third highest points total in Premier League history and the highest points total in the club’s entire history. If social media is no barometer of majority opinion nor the natural habitat of reasoned debate, the entitlement among some is still striking.

Where did we all go wrong?

 

Liverpool are only this week’s example of the wailing hysteria that now envelopes football coverage. Last week, you could listen to pundits saying that Maurizio Sarri faced the immediate sack at Chelsea. When Manchester City lost to Newcastle, the Bald Fraud Army mobilised their troops. In the space of six weeks, Mauricio Pochettino has been damned for Tottenham losing to Wolves, praised for their three-game winning response, castigated again for cup defeats and then lauded for late victories. Tottenham’s participation in the title race follows the same path as a hokey-cokey dance.

 

Things happen in football matches. Teams drop points. Football players are people and by definition are therefore unreliable. We have not yet created a club filled with footballing automata. We liberally bestow greatness and ignominy, and very few merit either description.

What’s worse, we redistribute those terms more often than the wind changes.

 

It has created a bizarro world in which reputations are decided solely through a prism of extremism. If Liverpool finish second, Tottenham third and Manchester United fourth, hardly a highly unlikely scenario, there will be four teams in the top six (Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea) whose current managers will be accused of overseeing disappointment this season. And disappointment means fraudulence. It’s exhausting.

 

*****

 

The financial inequality and competitive imbalance of the Premier League is, in part, responsible for increased supporter impatience. The gap between the top six and the rest – in economic terms at least – has never been wider. As such, wins against that ‘rest’ have become expectation rather than ambition, and any dropped points a relative crisis.

 

Take Tottenham as an example of the decreased margin for error. Pochettino’s team are on course to reach 87 points, which would most likely see Tottenham finish third and their manager’s progress seriously questioned. That points total would have won the Premier League in 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2010, 2011, 2014, 2015 and 2016. The goalposts have moved.

 

A victory by anything other than a convincing scoreline thus fails to deposit anything into a manager’s bank of goodwill. Defeats and draws make significant withdrawals. Only eventual triumph counts as success, and any stumble is apparent proof of an inability to stomach the fight.

If the media plays little part on the production line of the extremism of supporter opinion, it is a vital cog in its distribution. In the Wild West of digital journalism, it has never been harder to sell pieces and never more necessary to do so.

 

Psychologists have repeatedly proven negativity bias, in which sudden crisis is more interesting to readers than sustainable improvement. Nobody wants to read that everything is fine and nothing sells like bad news. Call someone a fraud, and people click to enjoy them being called a fraud and get angry about them being called a fraud. Easy.

 

That tendency towards crisis reporting has been exacerbated by the glamorisation of extreme opinion, a phenomenon that applies to far more important subjects than football. ‘Twitter reacts’ has become an undeserving but common headline, media outlets plumping for sensational negative sells and then raising their hands to say ‘Not me, guv’. ‘Liverpool players accused of bottling Premier League title race by angry fans after dropping points against West Ham’ was one Tuesday offering, to stick with the original Liverpool example.

 

Social media has enabled antisocial people to become social. Someone who would normally have had an outrageous opinion dismissed can now find like-minded (and often anonymous) individuals who share it. When those opinions are given undue prominence (as in this BBC example), they inevitably propagate.

 

*****

 

The Premier League and media have provided the petri dish, but the nature of football support itself seems to have changed. Tribalism continues to grow to the extent that many take any praise for an opposition club as blasphemy of their own, and the anger of these people is extraordinary.

 

Journalists and writers joke about it (and I’m taking out my small violin here), but appalling personal abuse is received for accused bias against every top six team. Crucially, this extremism becomes self-fulfilling. Self-centredness breeds isolation, isolation breeds more anger and anger breeds further self-centredness.

 

I distinctly remember Sheffield Wednesday supporters applauding Nottingham Forest’s goals in a 7-1 win at Hillsborough in 1995, and sections of Forest’s support doing the same during a 5-1 defeat to Blackburn Rovers the following season. It is hard to imagine that happening now as football has increasingly become A Very Serious Business. Fans have become defined not by their love of the game or support of their team, but their angry defence of their own narrow views on both.

 

In November, Kick It Out reported a rise in discriminatory abuse of 11% from 2016/17 to 2017/18, with reports of racism up 22%. Last week, sports minister Mims Davies announced an urgent meeting with football leaders to tackle the issue of growing discrimination. As the anger noticeably rises, it is hard not to make a correlation between a growth in football tribalism and growth in unacceptable abuse.

 

Even away from the worst elements of supporters, a general mania exists that is enough to give you a migraine. Melodrama and hysteria now come as standard as clubs and managers lurch between crisis and glory like a runaway train and supporters delight in both according to their loyalties. No longer is it enough to wait until the end of the season for medals and trinkets to be handed out. Why bother, when you can scream and scream and scream until you’re sick after every match. And you can.

 

*****

 

Over the next 15 weeks, one of the best title races in years will play out. We have the champions Manchester City, whose financial advantage puts pressure on them defending their crown. We have Liverpool under the magnanimous Klopp, who have lost once all season and will return to the top of the table once more if  they beat Bournemouth at home, despite the bed-wetting from some supporters. We have Tottenham, punching above their financial weight and five points off the top, an undoubted feel-good story.

 

Twenty years ago, supporters of those three clubs would have hoped and prayed and prayed and hoped. If they had fallen short, the journey would have been appreciated and admired. The rest of us would have sat back and enjoyed the show. Everything felt positive, still a soap opera but one that meant nothing as well as everything.

 

Is the same true in 2019, or has the ‘nothing’ been lost? Were Everton ‘bottlers’ in 1986 for allowing a rampant Liverpool to creep past them? Was Alex Ferguson a ‘fraud’ because Manchester United failed to beat West Ham on the final day in 1995? Were Arsenal chokers because they lost to Leeds in May 1999? Or did we commiserate the losers but remember the winners?

 

This could be the first Premier League title race that will be defined by those who miss out rather than those who win, and people are itching to pour scorn on those who miss out. Be victorious, and you shall rise as a knight.

 

Fall short, and you are destined for a lifetime of fraud-itude.

 

Daniel Storey

[Dr Nowt]

3 minutes ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

 Met Pennant once, briefly. Cunt of a man.

“His critics are less kind.”

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

Just now, Shartacus said:

“His critics are less kind.”

He was using the last vapours of La Coste aftershave before giving up the bottle to go through the scanner.

[Mudface]

13 minutes ago, Shartacus said:

The 2018/19 Premier League title race: Expose the ‘fraud’

The 2018/19 Premier League title race: Expose the ‘fraud’

 

Date published: Thursday 7th February 2019 7:56

 

Not that I particularly disagree with that, but a lot of people are just following the constant clickbait agenda set by national media and the need for sensation fed by Sky Sports 'News'. Give them an easy to use platform to express their heat of the moment thoughts, and this is what you get from the more hysterical types.

[TheHowieLama]

Fannies

[Bjornebye]

1 hour ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/two-ex-liverpool-stars-offering-15795372

 

Fucking Hell!

Id pay 190 quid for a video of Pennant setting fire to himself