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He's shite. Rodgers needs to go. Can't set up a team. Can't sign a decent player. Can't read or change the game. Wasted £200m.

Although I'm not happy with Rodgers, especially as his stubbornness is being put ahead of the club I still think he deserves some more time to turn things around. If he doesn't then we should assess his contract in the summer, or earlier if we do get dragged into a dogfight near to the bottom, Rodgers would fuck that up big style as he hasn't got a scoobies about defending, something those above him should be questioning and insisting on someone being brought in to sort that shit out, if Rodgers refuses help, then point a finger like that cockney twat Sugar. 

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I am quite distrustful of people who like the sound of their own voice as much as Rodgers. The guy uses 40 words when five will do. Last year he gave detailed tactical breakdowns following Suarez humiliating some lower league non entity. Now the detailed breakdowns have stopped. He also seems extremely vain,has dumped his wife for a piece of skirt and has had whitened his fucking teeth. Combined with the £200m down the toilet.. that's enough for me.

 

Summed him up there lad.

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I still have every faith in Brendan, but he needs to realise one thing.  He's in this 3rd season,

we're Liverpool Football Club, so he needs to lose this "transition" bollocks.

 

He knew for a year that Suarez wanted to leave, who signed a new contract that enabled us to maximise his fee, so Brendan has every right to say that this is HIS team and squad (15 players in the squad are bought) by now and we have to produce better than this.

 

We're incoherent, play at a much slower tempo than last year, seem to struggle passing to a red shirt in the opposition's half, lack the basics in defence at times, press in ones and not as a group, and he seems to indulge the same shite each week.

 

Step forward Glen Johnson and the anti-Suarez, Balotelli.  Rodgers has to get rid of that self-obsessed primadonna (aka Rafa and Robbie Keane) as our team is now bereft of confidence and self belief, partly or mainly drained away by Mario and his circus act doing their own thing.

 

Thank goodness for Gerrard who continues to drive the team on as per the last 13 years - how anyone can say he should be dropped is ridiculous.

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What the fuck has happened to Brendan. Has he forgotten how to manage? Today was one of our worst ever peformances, and the other fifteen or whatever the fuck its been games haven't been much better.

 

Nothing's happened to him at all.  Give him a quality attacking side and we'd easily brush teams off the park again.

 

Unfortunately, he's assembled a blunt side no better than Newcastle and hasn't a clue what to do with it.

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I am quite distrustful of people who like the sound of their own voice as much as Rodgers. The guy uses 40 words when five will do. Last year he gave detailed tactical breakdowns following Suarez humiliating some lower league non entity. Now the detailed breakdowns have stopped.

 

He also seems extremely vain,has dumped his wife for a piece of skirt and has had whitened his fucking teeth. Combined with the £200m down the toilet.. that's enough for me.

what do you make of sports psychology?

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This summer was a big failure in attack and defence.

 

It will be interesting when Mario-gate is exposed. We could have had Eto'o, Remy and even Falcao apparently. Age, injury and wages were the given explanations for why we ended up with someone less suited to our style than all three of them. FSG's rigidly dogmatic approach to age, like everything dogmatic, is far too blinkered. I can understand wages and illness worries, otherwise, though Remy was surely worth the gamble more than Mario was. And why Markovic? Because he is young?? Well, ability to improve a first eleven should surely be the number one factor when you spend 20 mill, not the odds on making a profit when you sell.

 

In defence, Lovren has been a huge disappointment. I must admit I thought he was the answer beforehand. We need to see Sakho back, despite his flaws, and to realize that Johnson is not good enough, not even when we have fixture congestion. When Flanagan is fit, surely that will be the end of him.

 

January will be the last throw of the dice for Champions League, and surely the financial implications of that are important enough for our owners to sort out our attack and defence.

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Nothing's happened to him at all.  Give him a quality attacking side and we'd easily brush teams off the park again.

 

Unfortunately, he's assembled a blunt side no better than Newcastle and hasn't a clue what to do with it.

 

Rubbish. He doesn't seem to have a clue tactically at the moment. Johnson at CB... he shouldn't be near the pitch at all and was at fault for the goal. There's no coherency, no signs of any kind of strategy - we're not passing it, we're not counter-attacking... I don't have a clue what we're trying to do. Sure, let's pity ourselves for not having Suarez and Sturridge but you should still be doing decent things with the players at our disposal - Sterling, Coutinho, Balotelli, Henderson - all good players in a team with any kind of initative but they were nowhere to be seen today. I think we had one shot in the entire first half and that was a Skrtel header from a rare corner. We offered absolutely nothing.

 

The gameplan seemed to be sit back and try and keep a clean sheet for once, but we all knew Johnson and now Lovren (£20M, pfft) were a mistake waiting to happen.

 

This doesn't seem like the same manager who had us playing great passing football in 12/13 or deadly, counter-attacking football in 13/14. What would you describe our style as this year apart from fucking shite?

 

The incredible thing is we're only three points off of 4th place! Not that I think we'll finish there, or even close. Not after today.

 

I do believe Brendan is right for us in the long-term, I just cannot fathom his approach at the moment.

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From TAW

 

TIME TO CUT THE BULLSHIT AND FIGHT THE BATTLES ON THE PITCH

by Andy Heaton // 1 November 2014 // 0 comments

“I am confident we will improve the team further and will be stronger for this coming season, when we will be competing on all fronts; domestically and in the greatest club competition in the world, the Champions League.”

Brendan Rodgers
11th July 2014

“We lost a world-class talent [suarez] and the natural progress of the team was halted – we needed the squad rebuilt, I think where we are is what was expected. The players we brought in were not really established. That decision was made knowing they might struggle a bit initially but further in the future would be big players for the club. That is where we are right now.”

Brendan Rodgers
31st October 2014

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A TEAM in a slump failing to match the highs of a previous season after not adequately replacing a star player. A festering disconnect between American owners and a manager recently rewarded with a new contract. Both sides briefing to their own ends and fingers getting pointed in every direction.

Sounding eerily familiar?

As a Liverpool side devoid of quality and confidence trudged off at St James’ Park at the end of another spineless defeat to cap another miserable week, it’s time for the club to pull together to arrest what is becoming an alarming decline before it becomes terminal.

In a week of claim and counter claim from the club captain, manager and club hierarchy, we are yet again in a position of washing our dirty laundry in public.

For the situation to develop to the point that the club is briefing against itself to ‘sympathetic ears’ tells you everything you need to know about the unity — or lack of — at the club at the moment.

No one, not Rodgers, not Gerrard, nor the club come out of this ugly episode particularly well. And it raises some uncomfortable questions.

At what point did it become acceptable for the club captain, backed by his manager, to speak publicly about what should be the formality of a new deal?

When did players feel so entitled that they thought they could speak publicly about what should be a matter between themselves and the club?

Does the manager not realise that, new contract or not, his paymasters are hardly likely to be impressed with thinly-veiled briefings to the local press?

Not for the first time, the story provided a convenient distraction for a man who has been struggling to get his team performing to anything near their potential.

Rodgers is clearly a very talented coach with plenty of credit in the bank, but one that under pressure and cornered shows a level of insecurity beneath the buzz words and guru speak, that, alongside his willingness to pass the buck and throw someone under a bus to distract from his own misgivings.

Maybe the manager would be best served on focusing on what he is clearly excellent at instead of spinning away bad news and wasting time on petty distractions?

Maybe he’d do well to take note of what happened to his previous predecessors when they became as concerned with what the papers were saying as they were with matters on the pitch.

And what of the man about town Ian Ayre? Of what point is he if he can’t sign off a roll of toilet paper let alone sanction a 12 month extension for the clubs greatest servant, let alone manage the process in such a way that it doesn’t end up in the press?

Quick to geg in on a photo call for a new signing but invisible in a crisis and evidently ineffective as a bridge to Boston, where does this leave Ayre?

Backing his mate Brendan and the captain up or standing shoulder to shoulder with Boston and their spreadsheets?

Abraham Lincoln is often quoted as saying

“You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time”

But what is also true is that football is a very simple game and the narcissistic desire to fool to out of ego is toxic, and almost always unnecessary.

The clue is in the name, LFC, its not the Hadron Collider, its not MI6, it’s a bloody football club.

At what point did the primary focus of everyone at the club change yet again from simply trying to be the best bloody football club in the fucking world?

Why the need for empire building, subterfuge and being too clever for your own good?

For all the positive steps over the last 18 months, a sense of rudderless inertia and uncertainty has returned and is being allowed to mastecise through a lack of conviction and consistent vision from the owners.

Seemingly jumping from one idea and philosophy to the next, from hands off ownership to periodic intervention, from Moneyball to Andy Carroll, from young potential to Kolo Toure and back again, from keeping the academy separate as to establish a long term plan back to being run at the whim of the manager, from investing in the best youth talent to refocusing on local catchment.

And the football committee. What are the protocols? What is the process? Who has the final sign off?

If ever there was a pertinent indictment on how things are being run at the club, it is this mysterious transfer committee and the lack of transparency around it.

It clearly isn’t the manager who has final sign off, for the club to sign Iago Aspas and Luis Alberto for a combined cost of £14m to then hardly feature a clear example of the money being wasted with zero accountability for those involved.

This culture of opacity that runs right through the club is what is fueling the disconnect that is clearly exists between the ‘home’ and ‘away’ teams in Liverpool and Boston/London.

It’s a culture that allows the manager to take credit for a player he never signed if he flourishes and yet easily distance himself from if he flops, this can only encourages paranoia and selfishness, hardly an ideal situation for any dressing room.

This isn’t to say that having a committee is a bad idea, it has been proven to work elsewhere, but like everything at the club, it would be far less complicated if it were more transparent, open and honest, because in its current guise if gives everyone involved an out and an excuse to point the finger.

Football, a simple game.

One easily complicated by layers and layers of anonymous and unaccountable administration, and when self preservation is human nature, its inevitable that absolving oneself of responsibility becomes a very real factor.

Liverpool Football Club and its administration are playing as many games off the pitch as they are on it.

And whilst people are wasting time and energy on pointing fingers, covering arses and watching their own back they are aren’t doing what they are paid to do.

To make Liverpool Football Club the best bloody club in the World.

‘At a football club, there’s a holy trinity – the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don’t come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques.’
Bill Shankly

http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2014/11/time-cut-bullshit-fight-battles-pitch/

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Rodgers sounds like a man who is making excuses to hide the fact he's having a mare, or the owners are happy as long as they don't have to give out huge sums and can sell on for a profit if we land a gem. 

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From TAW

 

TIME TO CUT THE BULLSHIT AND FIGHT THE BATTLES ON THE PITCH

 

by Andy Heaton // 1 November 2014 // 0 comments

 

“I am confident we will improve the team further and will be stronger for this coming season, when we will be competing on all fronts; domestically and in the greatest club competition in the world, the Champions League.”

 

Brendan Rodgers

11th July 2014

 

“We lost a world-class talent [suarez] and the natural progress of the team was halted – we needed the squad rebuilt, I think where we are is what was expected. The players we brought in were not really established. That decision was made knowing they might struggle a bit initially but further in the future would be big players for the club. That is where we are right now.”

 

Brendan Rodgers

31st October 2014

 

 

 

Certainly not flattering 

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Rodgers sounds like a man who is making excuses to hide the fact he's having a mare, or the owners are happy as long as they don't have to give out huge sums and can sell on for a profit if we land a gem. 

 

It was most probably the way they edited it, but I was watching BBC News this morning and they showed snippets from both Pardew's and Rodgers' pre-match press conferences. In the Pardew clip, he sounded very chipper and talked positively about how his team have found a bit of belief in recent weeks. In the Rodgers clip, he had obviously just been asked about Pardew's position at Newcastle and may have been a bit irritated at being asked to talk about Balotelli for the umpteenth time, but all they showed him talking about was how good a manager Pardew is and how tough the Newcastle game will be. He didn't come across and positive or confident at all.

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I hate the we play, after a poor result you can anticipate the managers comments, it's a mirage of commitment ,mentality, technical ability, hard work, endeavour, shite talk. I want him to read the fucking riot act publicly, this fucking bluff, with these millionaire cunts, a hundred grand a week, they should be sweating and pissing blood, for this club or fuck off.

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This defeat was solely down to poor team selection. Borini was in good form after Wednesday and would have provided sorely missed movement and pressing up front alongside Balotelli. Sterling has to play central attacking midfielder or else he can just as well be on the bench. Coutinho should be in midfield with Gerrard and Henderson to provide creativity, and if Borini was on the pitch as well he would create spaces for Sterling and Coutinho as well as more passing options in the last third. It's too thin up front with just Balotelli when he wants the ball at his feet all the time.

 

Someone has to challenge the space behind the defenders and as much as people want Balotelli to change it won't happen. You can't just wish for things to happen and then change the personality of a player.

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Too much stuff coming out of that dressing room at the moment, wether its players storming out if they are dropped, or the Captain going to the press about a new contract.

With the lack of fight in the players at the moment its a very worrying sign.

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I hate the we play, after a poor result you can anticipate the managers comments, it's a mirage of commitment ,mentality, technical ability, hard work, endeavour, shite talk. I want him to read the fucking riot act publicly, this fucking bluff, with these millionaire cunts, a hundred grand a week, they should be sweating and pissing blood, for this club or fuck off.

 

Strongly agree with that. Its all a bit detached isn't it.

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This defeat was solely down to poor team selection. Borini was in good form after Wednesday and would have provided sorely missed movement and pressing up front alongside Balotelli. Sterling has to play central attacking midfielder or else he can just as well be on the bench. Coutinho should be in midfield with Gerrard and Henderson to provide creativity, and if Borini was on the pitch as well he would create spaces for Sterling and Coutinho as well as more passing options in the last third. It's too thin up front with just Balotelli when he wants the ball at his feet all the time.

 

Someone has to challenge the space behind the defenders and as much as people want Balotelli to change it won't happen. You can't just wish for things to happen and then change the personality of a player.

Yes, Brendan needs to deal with the Balotelli shaped elephant in the room. The first team isn't the place to teach a professional footballer how to play football. Are we a competitive football club or a foundation for waifs and strays now?

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