Middle East Thread

[Bjornebye]

10 hours ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

 

Oh, the conspiracy nuts are having a field day. It's all Israel's doing, apparently.

It was a fair initial assumption to make given the circumstances and the fact that people could genuinely believed that it might be Israel’s doing particularly after what netenyahu had said that very morning says a lot about Israel itself. 

[Bjornebye]

[SasaS]

Just cannot believe this was purely accidental. Weren't fertilizer bombs in the old days relatively stable, you'd drive them around and without a good detonator, they were not that dangerous?

 

Even if this was not stored properly, people must have known what was stored there and what can happen.

[Section_31]

10 minutes ago, SasaS said:

Just cannot believe this was purely accidental. Weren't fertilizer bombs in the old days relatively stable, you'd drive them around and without a good detonator, they were not that dangerous?

 

Even if this was not stored properly, people must have known what was stored there and what can happen.

Imagine if that was your fault too though, say you'd dropped a ciggie or something, puts the explosion in the Wirral a few years back into perspective. I always used to think that about the Herald of Free Enterprise disaster, who the fuck forgets to close the door on a ship. 

[Bjornebye]

12 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Imagine if that was your fault too though, say you'd dropped a ciggie or something, puts the explosion in the Wirral a few years back into perspective. I always used to think that about the Herald of Free Enterprise disaster, who the fuck forgets to close the door on a ship. 

Horrible that. Wasn't the fella fast asleep pissed up? You'd think more than one person would be responsible for it as well. 

[Mudface]

25 minutes ago, SasaS said:

Just cannot believe this was purely accidental. Weren't fertilizer bombs in the old days relatively stable, you'd drive them around and without a good detonator, they were not that dangerous?

 

Even if this was not stored properly, people must have known what was stored there and what can happen.

There was speculation the nitrate got contaminated with oil, which would form an explosive mixture- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANFO

[Section_31]

4 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Horrible that. Wasn't the fella fast asleep pissed up? You'd think more than one person would be responsible for it as well. 

Wasn't exactly a small door either to be fair. 

[Bjornebye]

6 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Wasn't exactly a small door either to be fair. 

Mental. I had a book years ago about disasters. Of all of them I read, the story of that was the most terrifying. Maybe it was how it was written but it shook me right up. 

[Spy Bee]

The worst thing I have read on a disaster are the transcripts of Flight 447. You can absolutely live the horror!

[Anubis]

52 minutes ago, SasaS said:

Just cannot believe this was purely accidental. Weren't fertilizer bombs in the old days relatively stable, you'd drive them around and without a good detonator, they were not that dangerous?

 

Even if this was not stored properly, people must have known what was stored there and what can happen.

I don’t think the HSE’s jurisdiction extends to Lebanon...

[SasaS]

3 minutes ago, Anubis said:

I don’t think the HSE’s jurisdiction extends to Lebanon...

They must have their own rules, regulations and codes. Code of silence can't be the only one.

[Bjornebye]

6 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

The worst thing I have read on a disaster are the transcripts of Flight 447. You can absolutely live the horror!

Yeah that’s grim. That young co-pilot fucked right up 

[Mudface]

41 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

The worst thing I have read on a disaster are the transcripts of Flight 447. You can absolutely live the horror!

Ugh- https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/a3115/what-really-happened-aboard-air-france-447-6611877/

 

After reading that, I'm glad I won't be flying for quite some time.

[Rico1304]

45 minutes ago, SasaS said:

They must have their own rules, regulations and codes. Code of silence can't be the only one.

A ship sailing under a flag of convenience was abandoned there years ago. The cargo unloaded and left in the warehouse. Very mundane I’m afraid.  Like most of these events we can’t understand how something so horrid can happen so assign some outside agency or influence. 

[SasaS]

14 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

A ship sailing under a flag of convenience was abandoned there years ago. The cargo unloaded and left in the warehouse. Very mundane I’m afraid.  Like most of these events we can’t understand how something so horrid can happen so assign some outside agency or influence. 

Plus, it's Beirut.

[No2]

1 hour ago, Section_31 said:

Imagine if that was your fault too though, say you'd dropped a ciggie or something, puts the explosion in the Wirral a few years back into perspective. I always used to think that about the Herald of Free Enterprise disaster, who the fuck forgets to close the door on a ship. 

I think the lad who dropped the ciggie may have perished. 

[Rico1304]

16 minutes ago, No2 said:

I think the lad who dropped the ciggie may have perished. 

He said he wanted to give up.  

[No2]

21 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

He said he wanted to give up.  

He will in about 3 weeks when the smoke stops steaming off him.

[johnsusername]

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

Yeah that’s grim. That young co-pilot fucked right up 

Wasn't he trying to pull up while the other co pilot was trying to push down or something? And the captain was having a kip. Fucking hell. 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, johnsusername said:

Wasn't he trying to pull up while the other co pilot was trying to push down or something? And the captain was having a kip. Fucking hell. 

Yeah something like that. They had no air speed and were falling so pulling up is as bad a thing as you can do I think and that mad cunt kept doing it. 

[Strontium]

6 hours ago, Mudface said:

Absolutely.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_City_disaster

 

Yes, I definitely think we shouldn't let anyone from 1947 have modern WMDs.

 

5 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

It was a fair initial assumption to make

 

No it wasn't. 

[Bjornebye]

41 minutes ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

 

 

No it wasn't. 

It was but I’m intrigued to see how you can say it wasn’t. Despite it seemingly not being accurate, literally thousands mentioning Israel within hours proves my point. 

[Mudface]

1 hour ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

 

Yes, I definitely think we shouldn't let anyone from 1947 have modern WMDs.

 

Oh, OK. That wee lack of an ability to time travel would seem to prevent that anyway but, er, good one.

[Gruntfuttock]

I wonder how far the shock wave travelled? Our village in North Lincolnshire felt the wave from Flixborough and we were about fifteen miles away in a straight line. Mum and dad and my brother heard this distant 'boom' and a few seconds later the window frames shook,me? I was only a little un and slept right though it.

[Bjornebye]

3 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

It was but I’m intrigued to see how you can say it wasn’t. Despite it seemingly not being accurate, literally thousands mentioning Israel within hours proves my point. 

Thought so.