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Dejan Lovren


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I never claimed they were. He asked if i’ve seen Chiellini or Godin misjudged the flight of the ball... I gave him an example of an even better defender than them making an even worse ‘mistake’ than Lovren.

Yes. What does that prove exactly? What point are you making with it. Surely you can't just be saying 'a good player did make a mistake once'. You seem, to me at least, to have done this a a few times in order to compare him with others. For example, Lovren's fucked up, a world class players fucked up, ergo fuck ups aren't proof if him being wank. The issue is that he fucks up a lot, for goals and in general play. He's just not very good. In fact, he has been here for years and years and he has shown that he's not a top quality player. He can, sometimes, play fairly well. Additionally, he's fucking wank sometimes too.

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Yes. What does that prove exactly? What point are you making with it.

Sorry NV, but Boss brought up Chiellieni and Godin. He’d be better placed to answer those questions. I don’t think Lovren is good enough either. I think he’s the best of the rest, which we clearly disagree and that’s completely fine. There’s little between them.

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I’ve already answered you. To directly answer his question re Godin and Chiellini. I’m not as familiar with European football, so I gave him another example.

Okay, so your entire point was to say that great players had made a mistake. You weren't saying anything else, making any others points, or doing it for any other reason?

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Okay, so your entire point was to say that great players had made a mistake. You weren't saying anything else, making any others points, or doing it for any other reason?

You don’t seem to have any problem with him asking the question, but moreso with me answering his, which I find a bit confusing.

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You don’t seem to have any problem with him asking the question, but moreso with me answering his, which I find a bit confusing.

I'm asking you a question, though. I'll repeat it: so your entire point was to say that great players had made a mistake. You weren't saying anything else, making any others points, or doing it for any other reason?

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I'm asking you a question, though. I'll repeat it: so your entire point was to say that great players had made a mistake. You weren't saying anything else, making any others points, or doing it for any other reason?

I’ve given you the answer mate. If I was more familiar with Italian or Spanish football I could’ve given him examples involving Godin or Chiellini but I’m not hence Vidic. I don’t think this is going anywhere either, so let’s just leave it.
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I’ve given you the answer mate. If I was more familiar with Italian or Spanish football I could’ve given him examples involving Godin or Chiellini but I’m not hence Vidic. I don’t think this is going anywhere either, so let’s just leave it.

Right, can you link me to the answer? I'm obviously missing the post where you said 'yes, that's what I'm doing'. The point I'm making is you're clearly trying to defend the guy, not just say 'he's an example'. It's nonsense and you've done it several times. I'm trying to make you see why it's so irrelevant and that it doesn't mean he's anything other than wank.

 

Alright, cool.

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Right, can you link me to the answer? I'm obviously missing the post where you said 'yes, that's what I'm doing'. The point I'm making is you're clearly trying to defend the guy, not just say 'he's an example'. It's nonsense and you've done it several times. I'm trying to make you see why it's so irrelevant and that it doesn't mean he's anything other than wank.

 

Alright, cool.

Not in this case. I don’t think it was even a mistake by Lovren. If you’re saying his question is irrelevant, I’d be in agreement with you.

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I never claimed they were. He asked if i’ve seen Chiellini or Godin misjudged the flight of the ball... I gave him an example of an even better defender than them making an even worse ‘mistake’ than Lovren.

 

No, i didn't actually. I asked if you've ever seen Chiellini or Godin break rank and dart into central midfield to try and win a header they had no chance of winning?

 

You're talking about Vidic. I didn't mention Vidic, but I'll take your point at face value. Presumably, you're talking about the Torres goal in the 4-1 where he misjudged the trajectory of the ball, let it run past himself and tried and failed to pass it back to the keeper before Torres took it off him and scored, right?

 

He was the last man. He didn't leave his defence stranded and dart out into no man's land to contest a header. He was playing against the best striker in the world at the time. He didn't even contest a header, let alone lose it. What has this got to do with what Lovren did the other day? 

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Come the next match with Man U in the CL, Dejan Lovren explains how his improved form shows he has turned the corner since his negative experience with the French authorities. 

 

http://www.france24.com/en/20180312-croatian-prosecutors-investigate-lovren-over-false-testimony

 

Dejan: "I have proved the French judicial system is crap, just as I will dominate Lukaku in the next match."

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How anyone could argue that Lovren wasn't at fault for the first goal, rushing forward and breaking the line for a header he was never going to win in a million years, I'll never know. Good defenders tend to have situational awareness and anticipation - Lovren consistently shows neither.

 

Oh wait, it's ardja, Nevermind. Lovren could murder someone and he would still be on here with "But Matip misplaced a pass in the last game."

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How anyone could argue that Lovren wasn't at fault for the first goal, rushing forward and breaking the line for a header he was never going to win in a million years, I'll never know. Good defenders tend to have situational awareness and anticipation - Lovren consistently shows neither.

 

Oh wait, it's ardja, Nevermind. Lovren could murder someone and he would still be on here with "But Matip misplaced a pass in the last game."

Actually it’s Dave in his match report. He raises some valid points.

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How anyone could argue that Lovren wasn't at fault for the first goal, rushing forward and breaking the line for a header he was never going to win in a million years, I'll never know. Good defenders tend to have situational awareness and anticipation - Lovren consistently shows neither.

 

Oh wait, it's ardja, Nevermind. Lovren could murder someone and he would still be on here with "But Matip misplaced a pass in the last game."

And Jurgen Klopp.

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