Quantcast
Dejan Lovren - Page 126 - FF - Football Forum - The Liverpool Way Jump to content
WhiskeyJar

Dejan Lovren

Recommended Posts

4 minutes ago, SasaS said:

Lovren had a poor game yesterday, but numbers at least would suggest that reactions are, as usual, way over the top, and rather then being a huge liability, he is a useful member of a solid defence.

 

 

 

 

 

He started in 9 PL games for us this season, in which we conceded 5 goals, 4 out of these 9 games and 4 out of 5 goals were against City (twice), United and Arsenal. So, 5 games against non Top 6 teams, one goal conceded (Cardiff 4-1 at home).

 

 

Without Lovren, 5 goals conceded in 12 matches (2 goals conceded in 9 matches to non Top 6 opponents; Leicester and Burnley).

 

 

So against Top 6:  4 goals in 5 with Lovren, 3 in 3 without Lovren.

 

 

Non Top 6: 1 goal in 4 with Lovren; 2 in 9 without Lovren.

 

 


He also played in 1 CL game, in which we conceded 2 away at PSG and in 1 League Cup game, conceded 2 at home to Chelsea.

 

 

 

As a 4th choice CB... who played in a World Cup Final 6 months ago... he's a (barely) adequate stop gap.

 

 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Totally irrelevant mentioning Henderson (who played pretty well yet again in an important game) in the same paragraph as Lovren. Henderson plays a role that his manager asks of him with few mistakes and is very humble and respectful of his position as player and captain,Lovren is the complete opposite.

But you told me off for NOT mentioning Lovren in my paragrap about Alisson. Bit of a double standard there Vlad.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, Skaro said:

 

As a 4th choice CB... who played in a World Cup Final 6 months ago... he's a (barely) adequate stop gap.

 

 

 

 

He’s a decent third choice CB. Better than starters at United and Arsenal, also that clown David Luiz.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, aRdja said:

He’s a decent third choice CB. Better than starters at United and Arsenal, also that clown David Luiz.

He's ok as a 4th choice I guess, but bear in mind he's on a 100k a week. We'd be better off getting a younger potential CB and develop them. It's his public self-aggrandising utterances which annoy me as much as his performances. Talk about a lack of self-awareness. One thing is clear, he can't be trusted under pressure in big matches.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, clangers said:

He's ok as a 4th choice I guess, but bear in mind he's on a 100k a week. 

 

Isn't every footballer (who's played in a World Cup Final) on around 100K a week at their club?

 

Faux outrage there.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Skaro said:

 

Isn't every footballer (who's played in a World Cup Final) on around 100K a week at their club?

 

Faux outrage there.

Just stating that's expensive for a 4th choice CB, which is what he is at the moment.

  • Like 1
  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, Skaro said:

 

Isn't every footballer (who's played in a World Cup Final) on around 100K a week at their club?

 

Faux outrage there.

On the Croatian side - no.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, TheHowieLama said:

On the Croatian side - no.

 

True.  Modrič would struggle to get a second mortgage.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

When we gave him that big new contract he was second choice (was it before we signed VVD?) and the spectacular improvement shown by Gomez as CB was sensational, so he maybe unexpectedly dropped to third or fourth choice (depending on your preferences and Matip's form and fitness). He is a member of one of the best defences in the world at the moment.

Also occasionally running his mouth is unfortunate, but again too much is made of this, he talked about the possibility of going undefeated on 18 Dec I think, after the United game, we won the next 3 with a goal difference of 11:1. It's not like he chose the interview on the eve of the City game to tempt fate again.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
25 minutes ago, clangers said:

Just stating that's expensive for a 4th choice CB, which is what he is at the moment.

Why do you thinkk he is 4th choice. I think when everyone is fit it is a toss up between him and gomez for klopp to partner VVD. Personally I would not want to keep Lovren around, but the manager clearly values him and he's deffo not behind Matip. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 minutes ago, SasaS said:

When we gave him that big new contract he was second choice (was it before we signed VVD?) and the spectacular improvement shown by Gomez as CB was sensational, so he maybe unexpectedly dropped to third or fourth choice (depending on your preferences and Matip's form and fitness). He is a member of one of the best defences in the world at the moment.

 

 

Also occasionally running his mouth is unfortunate, but again too much is made of this, he talked about the possibility of going undefeated on 18 Dec I think, after the United game, we won the next 3 with a goal difference of 11:1. It's not like he chose the interview on the eve of the City game to tempt fate again.

 

 

 

He's nowhere near as bad a footballer, as the hate for him by his own supporters.

 

That wouldn't be possible.

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Last night I was livid at Lovren being targeted, and not standing up to the challenge, and gutted about the opportunity lost.

 

Today I'm much calmer. Yeah Lovren had a shit game, but, he is our 3rd/4th choice centre back, and if you look around Europe, there aren't too many centre halves who would be willing to come here and be a reserve centre back available at an affordable price. 

 

And yes we weren't at our best, and yes we lost, but the margins were incredibly fine, and we very narrowly lost to a Man City team who were playing at their absolute best. They were very good last night. And a couple of weeks ago they were the best team in the world ever.

 

We don't have to play them again this season in the league. Hopefully we ignore all the outside noise and ridiculous narrative about momentum and point swings etc, and just get on with doing what we've been doing all season, which if focusing on our own shit, and beating everyone else. I don't see any reason that we wouldn't, it's not like the performance was cause for concern at all.

  • Like 1
  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Twice in the first half Lovren had players in his sights, then lost them, didn't know where they were, before they reappeared with the ball/in a more dangerours position. It was mental. It just screamed of someone playing at a level that was too high for them.

 

There is no doubt that right side is weak defensively. 

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Van Dijk was cutting out those balls all night -- reading the play and as soon as it came across moving towards it to clear easily.

 

Lovesies stands flat footed when there is only an option to cut it back - then is beaten to it.

 

Fine margins and all.

 

Plus tired of seeing us penned back in possession deep on the right side with the ball on his foot.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, TheHowieLama said:

Gomez is definitely 2nd choice -- Matip played when both he and Lovren were available

Yeah but I don't think lovren was 100%. In fact listening to klopp before Christmas it sounded like we're nursing lovren through games. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

That is your opinion (repeated endlessly).

 

I doubt any of those sides would be in for Lovren. 

Yeah but they’d swap any of those mentioned with Lovren for sure. Did you watch the Spurs Chelsea game? Yet another game where Luiz made a complete fool of himself. Also Eric Bailly against Newcastle earlier in the season, where he got subbed off after half an hour. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

The time to sell would have been in the summer, when he'd just played in a World Cup final and we could have pulled the wool over people's eyes a bit.

Flaws notwithstanding, in today's market he's probably worth a fair bit more than the £20m we paid for him.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Available Subscriptions

  • Last Match Report

  • Latest Posts

    • These types of facilities are crucial to attracting talent now, as is the manager, the fact most clubs have got big money to spend means those are probably the two biggest bargaining chips a club can have to set it apart from its rivals. 
    • Easily done. This club's got form for that sort of thing.  (I read it on GOT, so it must be true.)
    • What are DHGate like in terms of payment? I'd prefer the added layer of protection offered by PayPal rather than directly giving them a credit card number.
    • If it hadn't have been for Heysel If it hadn't have been for Heysel If it hadn't have been for Heysel If it hadn't have been for Heysel If it hadn't have been for Heysel If it hadn't have been for Heysel If it hadn't have been for Heysel                                                           If it hadn't have been for Heysel                                                       If it hadn't have been for Heysel                                                       If it hadn't have been for Heysel                                      I                If it hadn't have been for Heysel If it hadn't have been for Heysel        If it hadn't have been for Heysel     If it hadn't have been for Heysel If it hadn't have been for Heysel        If it hadn't have been for Heysel     If it hadn't have been for Heysel  If it hadn't have been for Heysel        If it hadn't have been for Heysel     If it hadn't have been for Heysel                                                       If it hadn't have been for Heysel                                                       If it hadn't have been for Heysel                                                       If it hadn't have been for Heysel                                                       If it hadn't have been for Heysel     If it hadn't have been for HeyselIf it hadn't have been for HeyselIf it hadn't have been for HeyselIf it hadn't have been for HeyselIf it hadn't have been for HeyselIf it hadn't have been for HeyselIf it hadn't have been for HeyselIf it hadn't have been for HeyselIf it hadn't have been for HeyselIf it hadn't have been for HeyselIf it hadn't have been for HeyselIf it hadn't have been for HeyselIf it hadn't have been for HeyselIf it hadn't have been for Heysel
  • Latest Round Up

  • Popular Contributors

  • Football Betting Site Betway
  • top casino sites
  • new UK casino
×