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If we've fucked it up once again, I wish Rodgers would just go all Rafa on FSG and Ayre or whoever is responsible, but I guess he'll just come up with his usual arse-licking bullshit of how they've been working hard in Ukraine to get the deal done but it wasn't meant to be.

 

Well, it didn't take long. How surprising that the offal puts up the story as the deal is confirmed as dead.

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/154441-boss-my-confidence-in-current-squad

 

 

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I think our chance of ever getting him has just gone. Can see him ending up at utd, city or arsenal in the summer and hell be quality.

 

Oh well we've still got aspas and Moses to push for that place in the team as we chase top 4

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I don't think we look amateurs, I think we look like a club run by people who don't really give a shit about winning and they don't want to give a shit about winning and they love to play the propaganda game.

 

I expect to hear some bullshit about the stadium soon, some sort of planning or design that will of course never materialise, but it will help to sweeten their refusal to invest to the team's effort to get back to Top 4. 

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Somehow those crazy Eastern Europeans won't accept our hard cash. Mkhitaryan, Willian, Konoplyanka... No, they just don't like our money...

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We "activated" the release clause, in which case there'd be some legal and contractual obligation on the selling club. So that's obviously not the whole story. Evidently we offered 2 now plus 15 when we reach Alderaan. No dice.

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What a fucking shambles.

 

The spin machine will grind through the gears now apportioning blame on everyone else but the club. You can accept these things in isolation but in the past 6 months alone this is the 5th of our well publicised priority targets which we've been unable to do a deal for. The trend is clear for all to see..

 

This idea that we had a deal with the player but the owner wouldn't sign the papers, and we did everything we could. What a load of bollocks. Why would he sign the papers when we clearly haven't offered a wealthy club am attractive enough deal to sell their prized asset mid season. If the owners was impossible to deal with then why wait until the last hours of a 31 day period to realise that?

 

Once again we've exhibited another public broadcast of our incompetence as a club for the watching world to see. We are making ourselves look amateurish. Big clubs get their deals done. Yes not everything is going to work out, but our track record is appalling. We are a joke and must be seen as such around Europe.

 

Wer are never going to be in a better position to kick on back in to the top 4 as we are now. We could have given ourselves that injection we needed this window, gambled and reinforced the team , backed the manager and made a statement to our rivals. Instead we leave January with no additions, barely able to name a starting 11and bench of fit senior players, and with our off field credibility pretty much in tatters.

 

This window was about ambition , about recognising the wonderful opportunity we find ourselves with, and providing the resources which will allow us to consolidate that. We may well go on to have a storming second half of the season, but if we don't we will look back at this as tthe biggest opportunity we could possibly miss to reinstate ourself amongst the elite. The Mancs will get their act together,Arsenal will always be there, City and Chelsea will only improve.. It may be a while before we have another chance like this.

 

They've let Rodgers down here big time. Whoever is responsible, Ayre, FSG, they've failed to back their man. They know he will put on a face, toe the party line, praise them for their efforts. In reality they've shafted him, failed yet again to deliver one of his priority targets. Like I said there is a clear trend emerging now. It's happening too regularly . Salah and Konoplyanka in the space of a couple of weeks, deals supposedly tied up and mere formalities. Both have been blown sly high and I'm sorry but the excuses that we'll be fed just won't wash with me. What a fucking embarrassment

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Dnipro must have accepted our offer otherwise we would not have been allowed to discuss terms with the player. The player must have accepted the terms before he would undergo the medical. So it can only be the payment terms when the paperwork was delivered to Dnipro. Can't see that it can be anything else. Maybe this gave the owner the chance to kick it into touch because he never wanted to sell the player in the first place.

 

As others have stated maybe Ayre only has so much leeway in transfer dealings. If he steps outside his brief he is a dead man walking. As for Rodgers doing a Rafa..... consider how well that worked out.

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What a fucking shambles.

 

The spin machine will grind through the gears now apportioning blame on everyone else but the club. You can accept these things in isolation but in the past 6 months alone this is the 5th of our well publicised priority targets which we've been unable to do a deal for. The trend is clear for all to see..

 

This idea that we had a deal with the player but the owner wouldn't sign the papers, and we did everything we could. What a load of bollocks. Why would he sign the papers when we clearly haven't offered a wealthy club am attractive enough deal to sell their prized asset mid season. If the owners was impossible to deal with then why wait until the last hours of a 31 day period to realise that?

 

Once again we've exhibited another public broadcast of our incompetence as a club for the watching world to see. We are making ourselves look amateurish. Big clubs get their deals done. Yes not everything is going to work out, but our track record is appalling. We are a joke and must be seen as such around Europe.

 

Wer are never going to be in a better position to kick on back in to the top 4 as we are now. We could have given ourselves that injection we needed this window, gambled and reinforced the team , backed the manager and made a statement to our rivals. Instead we leave January with no additions, barely able to name a starting 11and bench of fit senior players, and with our off field credibility pretty much in tatters.

 

This window was about ambition , about recognising the wonderful opportunity we find ourselves with, and providing the resources which will allow us to consolidate that. We may well go on to have a storming second half of the season, but if we don't we will look back at this as tthe biggest opportunity we could possibly miss to reinstate ourself amongst the elite. The Mancs will get their act together,Arsenal will always be there, City and Chelsea will only improve.. It may be a while before we have another chance like this.

 

They've let Rodgers down here big time. Whoever is responsible, Ayre, FSG, they've failed to back their man. They know he will put on a face, toe the party line, praise them for their efforts. In reality they've shafted him, failed yet again to deliver one of his priority targets. Like I said there is a clear trend emerging now. It's happening too regularly . Salah and Konoplyanka in the space of a couple of weeks, deals supposedly tied up and mere formalities. Both have been blown sly high and I'm sorry but the excuses that we'll be fed just won't wash with me. What a fucking embarrassment

That is exactly the sentiments most sane fans have. We all want the same thing, Only some see the reality though. 

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What a fucking shambles.

 

The spin machine will grind through the gears now apportioning blame on everyone else but the club. You can accept these things in isolation but in the past 6 months alone this is the 5th of our well publicised priority targets which we've been unable to do a deal for. The trend is clear for all to see..

 

This idea that we had a deal with the player but the owner wouldn't sign the papers, and we did everything we could. What a load of bollocks. Why would he sign the papers when we clearly haven't offered a wealthy club am attractive enough deal to sell their prized asset mid season. If the owners was impossible to deal with then why wait until the last hours of a 31 day period to realise that?

 

Once again we've exhibited another public broadcast of our incompetence as a club for the watching world to see. We are making ourselves look amateurish. Big clubs get their deals done. Yes not everything is going to work out, but our track record is appalling. We are a joke and must be seen as such around Europe.

 

Wer are never going to be in a better position to kick on back in to the top 4 as we are now. We could have given ourselves that injection we needed this window, gambled and reinforced the team , backed the manager and made a statement to our rivals. Instead we leave January with no additions, barely able to name a starting 11and bench of fit senior players, and with our off field credibility pretty much in tatters.

 

This window was about ambition , about recognising the wonderful opportunity we find ourselves with, and providing the resources which will allow us to consolidate that. We may well go on to have a storming second half of the season, but if we don't we will look back at this as tthe biggest opportunity we could possibly miss to reinstate ourself amongst the elite. The Mancs will get their act together,Arsenal will always be there, City and Chelsea will only improve.. It may be a while before we have another chance like this.

 

They've let Rodgers down here big time. Whoever is responsible, Ayre, FSG, they've failed to back their man. They know he will put on a face, toe the party line, praise them for their efforts. In reality they've shafted him, failed yet again to deliver one of his priority targets. Like I said there is a clear trend emerging now. It's happening too regularly . Salah and Konoplyanka in the space of a couple of weeks, deals supposedly tied up and mere formalities. Both have been blown sly high and I'm sorry but the excuses that we'll be fed just won't wash with me. What a fucking embarrassment

 

Doubt Suarez is going to be impressed either.

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FSG are different to H&G in one crucial way: they're not straddling the club with unsustainable debt that's threatening to drive the club out of existence. Of course that's a very good thing, but for me that's where the differences end .

 

They're not prepared to spend money, they're trying to con the fans with a load of bullshit about how focused they are on developing the club and what efforts they're going to to do it. For H&G read the spade in the ground and Snoogy Doogy, for FSG read Moneyball.

 

In fairness to FSG they're much smarter and are obviously better businessmen than H&G, as while the previous owners downright lied to us, the whole Moneyball and "refusing to overpay" stuff actually does make sense at some level. You can still be someone capable of some sort of critical thinking and kinda buy into it.

 

It's still a load of shite though, and for me they're really not different to H&G at all: they still don't want to spend any money, and just cash in regardless. They're just better at what they do than the last pair of clowns.

 

I started to think something was off after that cringeworthy cuntery they came out with after we missed out on Dempsey. Many people vindicated it with how Dempsey turned out for Spurs, and it's true he probably wasn't the right player to go after, but that doesn't change the fact that it was fucking ridiculously stupid to loan out Carroll and bring NO ONE in to replace him.

 

A year on and their neglect of the obvious flaws in the squad have continued. People may entirely blame Ayre but there's something very fucking wrong with our general transfer policy if we "fuck up" this many times.

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FSG are different to H&G in one crucial way: they're not straddling the club with unsustainable debt that's threatening to drive the club out of existence. Of course that's a very good thing, but for me that's where the differences end .

 

They're not prepared to spend money, they're trying to con the fans with a load of bullshit about how focused they are on developing the club and what efforts they're going to to do it. For H&G read the spade in the ground and Snoogy Doogy, for FSG read Moneyball.

 

In fairness to FSG they're much smarter and are obviously better businessmen than H&G, as while the previous owners downright lied to us, the whole Moneyball and "refusing to overpay" stuff actually does make sense at some level. You can still be someone capable of some sort of critical thinking and kinda buy into it.

 

It's still a load of shite though, and for me they're really not different to H&G at all: they still don't want to spend any money, and just cash in regardless. They're just better at what they do than the last pair of clowns.

 

I started to think something was off after that cringeworthy cuntery they came out with after we missed out on Dempsey. Many people vindicated it with how Dempsey turned out for Spurs, and it's true he probably wasn't the right player to go after, but that doesn't change the fact that it was fucking ridiculously stupid to loan out Carroll and bring NO ONE in to replace him.

 

A year on and their neglect of the obvious flaws in the squad have continued. People may entirely blame Ayre but there's something very fucking wrong with our general transfer policy if we "fuck up" this many times.

 

Succinct and prescient, I fear.

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Again...ah fuck it i was going to have a rant but its late and we'll still wake up in the morning with this shit committee and Ayre-head looking at players. Werner and Henry need to grow a set of balls and write up some P45s in the morning, not more letters of PR apology.

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Somehow those crazy Eastern Europeans won't accept our hard cash. Mkhitaryan, Willian, Konoplyanka... No, they just don't like our money...

 

They've realised chocolate money melts.

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Again...ah fuck it i was going to have a rant but its late and we'll still wake up in the morning with this shit committee and Ayre-head looking at players. Werner and Henry need to grow a set of balls and write up some P45s in the morning, not more letters of PR apology.

 

I think you'll get your wish, I fully expect Ayre to be sacked/moved to a different department in the not too distant future. Doesn't make much fucking difference though when his bosses are the real problem.

 

They'll probably release some statement about how their good intentions and sincere efforts to strengthen the squad were hamstrung by his incompetency, thereby winning brownie points with the fans. Then we'll all be confused when the next guy can't seem to do any deals either.

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Its sad not to get him and we are frustrated now but the best thing to do right now is get behind the squad as much as humanly possible to get that 4th spot.

 

Finger pointing and turmoil could derail our best chance for Champions league in years.

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Dnipro must have accepted our offer otherwise we would not have been allowed to discuss terms with the player. The player must have accepted the terms before he would undergo the medical. So it can only be the payment terms when the paperwork was delivered to Dnipro. Can't see that it can be anything else. Maybe this gave the owner the chance to kick it into touch because he never wanted to sell the player in the first place.

 

As others have stated maybe Ayre only has so much leeway in transfer dealings. If he steps outside his brief he is a dead man walking. As for Rodgers doing a Rafa..... consider how well that worked out.

 

Thats not necessarily the case. I imagine we would already been sorted out the wages unofficially via his agent.  

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Surely he could still sign if we met his clause? Maybe he and his agent will go against it but

would the FA allow it ? I think our club should en-quire with the FA on Monday and then try to persuade Konoplyanka to seek legal advise.

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