Mohamed Salah

[TheHowieLama]

Why would anyone look at attacking stats apart from goals and assists?

 

That's the kind of shit Nunez fanboys pull.

 

 

[Code]

9 minutes ago, Elite said:

Salah could miss 10 open nets and Code would stay he was sensational. Same as it ever was.

Like I said in an earlier post, he should have tried his own luck twice yesterday instead of passing, Im pretty sure he would have scored at least one.

 

If Nunez had passed the ball to Salah when Salah was all alone at the back post, instead of trying his own luck when he scored the goal, would Salah have had a better game overall if he scored from that attack instead?

 

[Barrington Womble]

18 minutes ago, Code said:

We can look at some attacking stats apart from goals and assists.

Chances created:

Salah: 6

Gakpo: 3

Robertson: 2

MacAllister: 2

Trent: 2

Diaz: 1

Konate: 1

Gravenberch: 1

 

Successful dribles:

Salah: 5/7

Diaz: 3/5

Trent: 2/2

Jones: 2/2

Gravenberch: 1/1

Robertson: 1/1

Dom: 1/1

Gakpo: 1/1

Chiesa: 0/1

 

Shots on target:

Salah: 4/4

Diaz: 4/4

Nunez: 2/3

Gravenberch: 1/1

MacAllister: 1/1

Chiesa: 1/2

Robertson: 0/1

Dom: 0/1

 

Touches in opposition box:

Salah: 13

Nunez: 6

Diaz: 4

Chiesa: 3

Gakpo: 2

MacAllister: 1

Trent: 1

Dom: 1

Jones: 1

 

Accurate crosses: 

Salah: 1/1

Trent: 1/4

Robertson: 0/3

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why would you want to exclude goals and assists? 

 

And where did these stats come from? How can nunez not be on the dribbles list, when his goal literally came from a dribble? And if those stats aren't right, how can we trust the others?

[Code]

10 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

Why would you want to exclude goals and assists? 

 

And where did these stats come from? How can nunez not be on the dribbles list, when his goal literally came from a dribble? And if those stats aren't right, how can we trust the others?

The stats are from here., I excluded goals and assists since I guess everyone knew that Diaz had two goals, Nunez one, while Salah, Trent and Konate got the assists. 

 

Nunez was not really a dribble though, more a change of direction and he did not go past anyone with the ball, he took his shot when he was in line with the defender. 

 

https://www.fotmob.com/matches/liverpool-vs-afc-bournemouth/2he69q#4506308:tab=stats

[Smell The Glove]

The thing about Salah, whether he's having one of his genius days or one of his frustrating days, is that he has this really shit habit of being involved in most of the goals we score.

[Barrington Womble]

26 minutes ago, Code said:

The stats are from here., I excluded goals and assists since I guess everyone knew that Diaz had two goals, Nunez one, while Salah, Trent and Konate got the assists. 

 

Nunez was not really a dribble though, more a change of direction and he did not go past anyone with the ball, he took his shot when he was in line with the defender. 

 

https://www.fotmob.com/matches/liverpool-vs-afc-bournemouth/2he69q#4506308:tab=stats

We have different ideas of what a dribble is then. I don't believe you ever have to go past a player for it to be a dribble. In my opinion, Nunez nods the ball down, dribbles, checks inside, dribbles to create an angle and score. This is why stats are shite. 

[Mane_Was_Better]

52 minutes ago, Code said:

 

 

Pea rollers on target:

Salah: 4/4

Diaz: 0/4

Nunez: 0/3

Gravenberch: 0/1

MacAllister: 0/1

Chiesa: 0/2

Robertson: 0/1

Dom: 0/1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Code]

16 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

We have different ideas of what a dribble is then. I don't believe you ever have to go past a player for it to be a dribble. In my opinion, Nunez nods the ball down, dribbles, checks inside, dribbles to create an angle and score. This is why stats are shite. 

I would think most people’s definition is that you have to go past a player with the ball to actually dribble him.

 

 

[Barrington Womble]

2 minutes ago, Code said:

I would think most people’s definition is that you have to go past a player with the ball to actually dribble him.

 

 

Maybe that's a definition by stats nerds. It most definitely isn't the definition. 

 

 

[Code]

Running with the ball is not dribbling. 
 

 

[Elite]

1 hour ago, Code said:

Like I said in an earlier post, he should have tried his own luck twice yesterday instead of passing, Im pretty sure he would have scored at least one.

 

If Nunez had passed the ball to Salah when Salah was all alone at the back post, instead of trying his own luck when he scored the goal, would Salah have had a better game overall if he scored from that attack instead?

 

 

[Kevin D]

3 hours ago, Code said:

Salah had a great game yesterday, he should have tried his own luck twice instead of trying to set up Nunez though. 

You had a ticket for the Forest game last weekend, didn’t you?

 

Must have been a bitter pill to swallow watching your man have an obvious nightmare.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Code said:

I would think most people’s definition is that you have to go past a player with the ball to actually dribble him.

 

 

I think most people would say the object of the verb "to dribble" is the ball, not any other player.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Code said:

Running with the ball is not dribbling. 
 

 

That Wikipedia entry makes it clear that going past an opponent isn't an essential, defining characteristic of a dribble.

 

Opta are full of shite.

[TheHowieLama]

There is alot of dribbling going on in this thread that is for sure.

[Code]

3 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

That Wikipedia entry makes it clear that going past an opponent isn't an essential, defining characteristic of a dribble.

 

Opta are full of shite.

You dribble past the opposition, if not you are just running with the ball.

 

Im actually amazed this is even up for discussion. 

[Kevin D]

This what I choose to spend my Sunday reading.

 

I read the last page and said good stuff, I’ll click next.

[VladimirIlyich]

1 hour ago, Code said:

Running with the ball is not dribbling. 
 

 

It isn't. But who gives a fuck if it gets results? Wingers and Full Backs tend to run with the ball while forwards dribble more. This is due to the space more often afforded to less attacking players.

[Barrington Womble]

2 hours ago, Code said:

Running with the ball is not dribbling. 
 

 

The definition I posted is from a website run by the english fa. We are talking about English football. Maybe in Norway it means something different. I suspect it's more about stato's needing to define bullshit. 

 

Anyway, I'm not that arsed, it just demonstrates how valueless the stats are. 

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, Barrington Womble said:

Anyway, I'm not that arsed, it just demonstrates how valueless the stats are. 

 

I think that is what Salah's agent texted back to Edwards.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Code said:

You dribble past the opposition, if not you are just running with the ball.

 

Im actually amazed this is even up for discussion. 

Dribbling is running with the ball.  It's not really up for discussion; you're just wrong.

[TheHowieLama]

Salah was involved in alot (read the most - 15) of "ground duels" whatever they are.

He won half of them, and whatever they are that seems average at best.

[Code]

26 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Dribbling is running with the ball.  It's not really up for discussion; you're just wrong.

 Who do you dribble then, yourself?

 

Its like discussing with people from a forgotten part of the world who have never watched or played football their entire life. 

[Barrington Womble]

3 minutes ago, Code said:

 Who do you dribble then, yourself?

 

Its like discussing with people from a forgotten part of the world who have never watched or played football their entire life. 

YES! You can dribble by yourself..other people need not be involved. They're not excluded either. 

[Torvald Utne]

Dribbling is running with the ball.  End of discussion.