AVB Sacked

[scudger99]

Having your own views isn't an issue.  Sharing those views with others invites a certain amount of risk, especially if they're in any way controversial.  Forcing those views on players to a degree by sending them to see that healer bint was asking for trouble. 

[FanchesterCity]

I find his comments totally offensive, he's saying that disabled people deserve to be disabled because of past life karma, which beyond being religious quakery, is actually a deeply disturbing thought process.  If you extrapolate that out, does he think kids with leukemia deserve it as well? does he think kid's like Jamie Bulger deserve to be murdered? It's equally as offensive to me as what Ron Atkinson said, maybe even more so.

 

I largely agree.... but....

 

I think he was originally trying to explain why bad things happen (which nobody can). Why is one kid born disabled and another not, or why does one get cancer and another doesn't etc.

 

All that stuff blows are minds because it's essentially 'unfair' (as we see it). Good people die, some nasty folks get all the luck etc etc.

 

So, in a sense, his rationale, however unsavoury was 'well, maybe it's karma for something bigger, something that went before' isn't all that crazy. I'm not saying it's right - it's simply a philosophical view about 'the big picture' that is life.

 

The problem comes that it's clearly a controversial topic, and since nobody really knows why shit happens, nobody's going to thank him for putting forward that philosophy. Nobody's going to feel better because of it, but plenty might feel worse. So, he'd have been wise to keep those views to himself and avoid a whole load of trouble.

 

I genuinely don't think he was 'blaming' people for this misfortunes per se, but ultimately that implication is there. Just like saying "you have a disabled child at birth because you had sex and YOU gave your child the disability". Well, in a sense, that's true for some disabilities, but it's not the right way to view things, or present them. It's not like anybody knew the outcome would be a disability.

 

But he was the England manager, not a philosopher, and ought to have known better. Fortunately for him, his bad karma only cost him his job.... it didn't result in disability or worse. Maybe next time around he'll pay the full price (if his views are correct).

[dennis tooth]

When did Hoddle "impose" any beliefs on his players other than the footballing ones which made him the most successful England manager since Sir Alf Ramsey?

 

Eh?

We were shit under Hoddle with the players he had the pick of.

[fowler9]

 

 

He's a very likeable personality on the TV and one of those players nobody ever seems to have a bad word to say about.

 

Not read Fowler's book? One person's opinion granted but makes him sound an absolute nutjob!

[Gym Beglin]

Yeah, we should be more understanding of other people's utterly groundless beliefs. Especially when they attempt to impose them on players - many of them essentially kids - in their care.

I see, so what about players who point to the heavens to celebrate goals? Should I be concerned?

 

I don't recall any accounts of Hoddle indoctrinating any player, but then again, that's how they do it, all sly like.

[Rico1304]

I see, so what about players who point to the heavens to celebrate goals? Should I be concerned?

I don't recall any accounts of Hoddle indoctrinating any player, but then again, that's how they do it, all sly like.

Ray Parlour, Gary Neville, Robbie Fowler all talk of having to go and see Eileen Drewery and listen to her bollocks. Parlour made a joke of it and was never picked again. There was also the talk of energy boosting injections that were never explained.

[Major Tom]

Parlour made a joke of it and was never picked again.

 

erm...Ray Parlour wasn't picked again cos he was shite.

[Josef Svejk]

I see, so what about players who point to the heavens to celebrate goals? Should I be concerned?

 

I don't recall any accounts of Hoddle indoctrinating any player, but then again, that's how they do it, all sly like.

 

When Frank Lampard starts requiring his teammates to devote their goals to Mamma Lampard in the Sky, I'd be concerned.

 

Glenn Hoddle, as national team manager, required his players to consult his choice of "spiritual healer". Required. His choice.

[magicrat]

Glenn Hoddle, as national team manager, required his players to consult his choice of "spiritual healer". Required. His choice.

I had forgotten that bit when I quoted his bonkers views on disability last night. I wonder whether Xerxes took it into account when extolling the virtues of his managerial skills.!

[s(k)aturation]

When did Hoddle "impose" any beliefs on his players other than the footballing ones which made him the most successful England manager since Sir Alf Ramsey?

 

Didn't Bobby Robson get England to a World Cup semi-final?

And Venables got them to a Euro semi-final.

Hoddle did neither, did he? 

I suppose he won more vital friendlies perhaps.

[stringvest]

 

I didn't realise Barry Venison was up for the job.

[KMD7]

[Gym Beglin]

When Frank Lampard starts requiring his teammates to devote their goals to Mamma Lampard in the Sky, I'd be concerned.

 

Glenn Hoddle, as national team manager, required his players to consult his choice of "spiritual healer". Required. His choice.

'Spiritual healer' though, not witch. Psychology is a funny thing, Hoddle felt it would work for him and he thought it might strike a chord with others, but back in 98 there wasn't the same attitude towards sports psychology, like Rodgers getting in that bloke last season.

 

If it works, great. If not, meh,

[Josef Svejk]

A "spiritual healer" is not a psychologist. Psychology, at its best, is a reputable science. "Spiritual healing" is no such thing.

[Harry Squatter]

He still calls Torres "Tawrez" on Sky Sports, the crank. He probably thought Gazza was naughty in a previous life given that his alcohol problems fucked him up beyond redemption.

[myrlas]

This is brilliant.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzPZvozEhWiTUW9NN0E0OVl1S0U/edit?pli=1

 

Sorry, the link seems to be broken.

[magicrat]

This is brilliant.

 

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzPZvozEhWiTUW9NN0E0OVl1S0U/edit?pli=1

 

Sorry, the link seems to be broken.

Call me picky but I though it was a bit shit ..

 

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[celeryBADboy]

I did put a bet on Pardrew at 50/1 lucky because they dropped to 33/1 a hour after

 

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[Dante]

[Captain]

Haha, brilliant that!