Firminho and Origi is about as toothless as options you are likely to get. I could fucking kill Origi for blasting that shot last night there was no fucking need the brain dead idiot.

I don't understand this point of view at all. The keeper came out, threw himself to the floor and didn't get to the ball. Barnes is not obligated to get out of the way and I don't really understand why anyone would think he would - he's done as every single player in the league would do. If we'd have been awarded that pen and VAR wiped it off, everyone would have gone absolutely mental - and rightly too, because it's a pen.    Once you go to ground in the box and don't make the ball, you always risk a pen. 

I agree with Dave U, 100%. I didn’t even realise until Wednesday that the Burnley game was last night, or that we were playing the Mancs again at the weekend. I’m totally fed up with it. I’ve only been coming on the site sporadically to catch up on various threads on the GF and now take part in a draft, after calling all the regular players “draft wankers” for the last few years. 

He has some frigging neck starting match threads this lad....

Keepers do this all time against us. I remember Ben Foster at Anfield for West Brom when we drew 0-0. Van Der Sar, De Gea and basically anyone who plays for a negative shithouse team does it unless they are losing. They also use a towel to dry their hands and get water from a water bottle even though they haven't been running around the whole game, so won't be thirsty and could have easily swug some when there was a break in play or the other team was defending a corner.   I think the goal kick rule changing enables them to waste more time. If the ball went out on the right side the ref would make you take it on that side. Now, they walk to the side furthest away, put the ball down then waste more time looking up to see who they are kicking it to.