Xbox One

[Dan Vito Corleone]

Weird, underwhelming, unfulfilled launch.

 

I am evidently biased but the PS4 launch had games, games, games. Where are Microsoft's? It's all well and good saying there are 15 titles in development, but where are they and what do they look like?

 

I don't live in the US - I'm not going to be able to take advantage of these tie ins with the NFL etc. What are you going to do with European customers?

 

I want a games console - show me games. I just think they've lost the plot a bit with that and so do most opinions I've read. I'm not arsed about DRM (I doubt there will be much of a muchness) and the second hand games issue is secondary to me - currently I have zero interest in buying an XBox One.

[Lee909]

The NFL stuff could be available with a league subscription,not that it will interest many.

[AJBlaikie]

This is how Xbox One game trade-ins will work, apparently • News • Xbox One • Eurogamer.net

 

If you want to trade in an Xbox One game you will need to find a shop that has agreed to Microsoft's terms and is therefore connected to the Xbox One cloud.

 

The game will be registered as traded in and will be wiped from your Xbox Live account. The shop can resell it for whatever price it likes but the game's publisher now takes a cut and so does Microsoft, a source-based MCV report revealed.

 

Anyone buying that second-hand game will need to pay an activation fee of £35, a separate unconfirmed report on ConsoleDeals.co.uk claimed.

 

 

Presumably.

The same report said a shop's cut from that second-hand sale could be as low as 10 per cent - roughly the same as with new games. But second-hand games sell for less so what's the point?

 

Couple that with the shopper's activation fee being almost as pricey as a first-hand game, and the desire to pick up a second-hand bargain disappears.

 

As does the second-hand market.

 

"We have only confirmed that we designed Xbox One to enable our customers to trade in and resell games at retail," said Microsoft on the matter.

 

We know that Xbox One games will be tied to both a gamer's account and their Xbox One. Everyone who has an account on that Xbox One can play the game linked to it. If the game is played elsewhere on another Xbox One, however, only the owner's Xbox Live account can play it.

 

Rumours of an activation fee are what we believe has been holding Microsoft back from explaining second-hand Xbox One sales so far. Whether that's because the fee is high, as claimed here, or because there are specific retailer partnerships to announce, as also suggested here, isn't clear. Both, perhaps? E3 should clear the matter up, unless Microsoft's forced to respond sooner.

[Mendoza]

Xbox One patent outlines Achievement implementation for watching TV programs | VG247

[Bobby Hundreds]

Can they not just make a games console without all the fucking about. I don't want fuck all monitored or points achievement or any of that shit I just want to play a game and try and beat it and that's it.

[bossy]

It's like they want people to fuck them off!

[Welsh]

I hope people do fuck them off. This idea of not being able to buy used games on ebay is a joke.

[Phoenix]

I dont ever buy used games but its a point of principle.

 

PS4 it is.

[Allan]

Xbox One is available to pre-order now on Amazon.

 

Been given a release date of 31/12/2013, with a release price of £599.99.

 

The PS4 is also available to pre-order at the same price, but no release date is available yet.

[Lee909]

£600 on your bike

[Reacher]

That's a fucking mental price.... You can buy a GPU that'll blow both those consoles out the water for half that price...

[Dan Vito Corleone]

Not a chance will it be £599. Not a chance in hell. That's Amazon covering their backs. PS4 is available for pre order for £400 from Zavvi. It'll be that price or there abouts.

[JD74]

XBox One is £399.99 on Play.com as well with a release date of 30 November 2013.

 

Play.com - Buy Xbox One Console online at Play.com and read reviews. Free delivery to UK and Europe!

[Allan]

Not a chance will it be £599. Not a chance in hell. That's Amazon covering their backs. PS4 is available for pre order for £400 from Zavvi. It'll be that price or there abouts.

 

XBox One is £399.99 on Play.com as well with a release date of 30 November 2013.

 

Play.com - Buy Xbox One Console online at Play.com and read reviews. Free delivery to UK and Europe!

 

As AP mentions, the £599 price that Amazon have quoted is just to cover themselves so that they don't lose out on pre-order custom. Around £400 has been the predicted RRP throughout.

 

I wasn't aware that Zavvi and Play had started their own pre-order promotions as well.

 

As I understand it, both Microsoft and Sony are expected to reveal the official release dates and prices at the upcoming E3 event in L.A. Sony will finally be revealing the new PS4 console as well.

[RedKnight]

There's nothing more tedious than the months leading up to and then the first year of a new console's life. High prices, those strange early adopters, weird speculation and lack of quality games; totally boring.

[Sweeney287]

I had an Xbox from launch day and will not be doing it again.

 

All the issues that come with any new hardware, lack of decent games and very large financial outlay just doesn't make it worth while.

 

There is enough on the current gen to keep me interested until the price drops to a reasonable price.

[coop]

Learnt my lesson buying the Xbox360 as soon as it came out and then returning the fucker because it RROD.

 

Gonna wait this time round until the second or third gen of the new consoles are released and they have got rid of any bugs the launch consoles had.

[Allan]

I'll be getting the PS4 on release day, so long as the prices in mainland Europe are almost equivalent to those in the UK and Ireland.

 

Browsing through sites for major companies here in Spain for upcoming release see me paying between £5 and £10 more for games than I would back in the UK. For example, at this moment in time, Amazon are offering CoD: Ghosts for £40 in the UK and €55,96 here in Spain, which works out to be £47.85 in the current market.

 

I know that £7.85 is not necessarily a great deal of difference for one game, but it soon adds up, and with Battlefield 4 also due for release at the same time, I will no doubt purchase both titles for PS3, and then potentially PS4...

 

Yes, you're right, I am a complete fuckwit, but I just can't help myself...

[Vincent Vega]

I'll be getting a PS4 but will wait until the xmas after launch as they should drop the price in time for that and it will be almost a year old and should have a wider selection of games available at that point. I bought the PS2 on release day and it took an age for the really great games to come along, and I overpaid massively for the console, compared with waiting 6 months.

[Byrnie]

That difference isn't just in games, Al, as you will soon find out.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

I've got a Vita, so i'm leaning towards the PS4, even though i reckon they'll follow the route of fees for second hand games like MS.

[Pidge]

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[Mendoza]

Xbox One pre-owned, game lending & online policies confirmed | Den of Geek

[Phoenix]

BBC News - Xbox One: Microsoft defends pre-owned games rules

 

Xbox One: Microsoft defends pre-owned games rules

 

 

Backlash over Xbox pre-owned games

Fans react to new Xbox One launch

New Xbox One has been unveiled

Microsoft has clarified its position on selling and buying pre-owned titles for its new Xbox One console.

 

Confusion arose after it appeared the company would impose a fee for playing pre-owned games, a move that was highly unpopular with gamers.

 

The company has now said in a statement that games can be traded in, but only at "participating retailers".

 

Games can be freely passed on to friends, Microsoft added, but only once.

 

"Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends," the statement said.

 

"There are no fees charged as part of these transfers.

 

"There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once."

 

The Xbox One will come up against Sony's new console, the PlayStation 4.

 

Sony is yet to show off the console and has not set out its policy on pre-owned games.

 

Its worldwide studios president, Shuhei Yoshida, told news site Eurogamer that used games would not be "blocked" on the console, but would not specify whether there would be a fee for using pre-owned titles.

 

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The Xbox One has also come under fire after it emerged it might have to be always online to play games.

 

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After signing in and installing, you can play any of your games from any Xbox One because a digital copy of your game is stored on your console and in the cloud”

 

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Microsoft explained on Thursday that while the console did not have to be online to play, it did need to connect at least once every 24 hours.

 

The company said: "You can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console, or one hour if you are logged on to a separate console accessing your library.

 

"Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies."

 

This policy would "raise a few eyebrows" in the gaming community, one technology blog wrote.

 

But Microsoft argued that these policies allow individuals greater access to their games, even if players are not on their own console.

 

"After signing in and installing, you can play any of your games from any Xbox One because a digital copy of your game is stored on your console and in the cloud.

 

"So, for example, while you are logged in at your friend's house, you can play your games."

 

As the console is always on, it allows developers to create "massive, persistent worlds that evolve even when you're not playing", Microsoft said.

 

 

 

So you need to be connected to the internet at least 24 hours within playing. Lets hope Sony dont bring in any shit like this.

[john23liverpool]

 

After signing in and installing, you can play any of your games from any Xbox One because a digital copy of your game is stored on your console and in the cloud”

 

Microsoft explained on Thursday that while the console did not have to be online to play, it did need to connect at least once every 24 hours.

 

"Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies."

 

So you need to be connected to the internet at least 24 hours within playing. Lets hope Sony dont bring in any shit like this.

 

All this bollocks pisses me off.

 

I'm in the merchant navy, and the only time I get to play my xbox is when I'm at sea. The new xbox will be useless to me if it has to be connected 24/7. It's just an anti-piracy barrier, but it penalises people who just have no internet (like me on the ship).

 

I buy the football manager games for my laptop and the last couple have demanded updates at times before you can carry on playing them, which has meant it's nothing more than a coaster to me while I'm at sea.

 

They can't just assume EVERYONE has permanent broadband connections.

 

Pricks.

 

I'll be buying a PS4, unless of course sony have got the same policies.