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Mancs appoint "atmosphere expert"


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Fucking blerts, imagine we had 75,000 in every week.

 

"A 'United source' told the Manchester Evening News that the club have drafted in an 'acoustic engineer' to boost the atmosphere at the ground, which despite the perpetually sold-out crowd of over 75,000, frequently does not generate the noise one might expect from such a large number of supporters.

 

Indeed, the inspiration for the move is said to have come from fans who sit in the Stretford End, who have complained about the lack of noise at Old Trafford.

 

The 'source' told the MEN: "There were supporters in the Stretford End who thought they had made a lot of noise only for friends in different parts of the ground to say they couldn't hear them."

 

The club have confirmed the move to The Guardian.

 

United have been working for some time to improve the atmosphere at their home stadium, but have now apparently shelved plans to move the away section from the corner of the South and East Stands, into the top tier of the Sir Alex Ferguson Stand.

 

The MEN claimed: 'The expert attended the Liverpool match in January and will monitor noise levels at another game before the season concludes.

 

'The findings will then be presented to the Reds' top brass who will decide what action to take.'"

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Bjornbye's right.

 

High percentage of tourists, and on top of that, they win so much, the passion wears off. What's winning the League to them these days? it's water off a duck's back.

Winning after 40 years of sod all is quite different.

 

Putting my affiliation to one side, I think any club in their position would suffer the same fate in the end.

You don't know the real value of something if you've never had to go without it. For a large number of United fans, they have no idea what mediocrity is.

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Bjornbye's right.

 

High percentage of tourists, and on top of that, they win so much, the passion wears off. What's winning the League to them these days? it's water off a duck's back.

Winning after 40 years of sod all is quite different.

 

Putting my affiliation to one side, I think any club in their position would suffer the same fate in the end.

You don't know the real value of something if you've never had to go without it. For a large number of United fans, they have no idea what mediocrity is.

Good point you make about it becoming expected for them to win it so it takes a bit away off the winning of it.

When we were winning it fans became like that except that never took away the atmosphere at alll.

The reason mightb e not as many daytrippers back then as there are now might explain it.

The one thing to me that hasnt gone with alot of fans is one of still expecting us to win it every season or at least second.

Not sure if that is more from the older ones or for some reason fans who werent around then.

Myself as a older one havent had that feeling for many seasons though now and again it reappears for a small while.

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Well, look at how we've reacted to falling out of the Champions League for a few years. We've got a bit of 'Well, we should be in there' as well. I'd imagine that if United fell out of the Champions League for a few years that there would be bloody murder to be had, because they've honestly been at the top of the english game for sooo goddamn long. (It's sickening, really)

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Good point you make about it becoming expected for them to win it so it takes a bit away off the winning of it.

When we were winning it fans became like that except that never took away the atmosphere at alll.

The reason mightb e not as many daytrippers back then as there are now might explain it.

The one thing to me that hasnt gone with alot of fans is one of still expecting us to win it every season or at least second.

Not sure if that is more from the older ones or for some reason fans who werent around then.

Myself as a older one havent had that feeling for many seasons though now and again it reappears for a small while.

 

the thing with Liverpool though, is that you've consistently won things even during United's period of dominance. So I think it's reasonable that fans still have great expectations.

Compare that to say, City, Leeds, Newcastle and the like... now you really ARE talking dire times and serious drought!

Liverpool's 'dip' in success, is still top third of the table! So there's always that promise of 'next year we can contend again'.

 

If you were to be relegated or really shafted by the owners over a number of years, I think like all fans, the optimism would drain from you - as it does with any club.

 

I think Liverpool's successes keep optimism 'topped up'. Winning the Champions League gives you 5 years grace for a start! FA Cup and League Cup wins have kept the belief going. If you took away those trophy wins, then the optimism would be crushed.

 

Anyway, I think it's time Old Trafford what acoustically sealed. I think fans are fed up of them winning everything now. I applaud what they've done and achieved, but let someone else have a bloody turn! ANYBODY, just not them.

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They don’t need an expert, the answers are well established, and applicable at many PL grounds.

 

The inexorable rise in ticket prices has changed the social demographic and the number of games that fans can attend.

 

Numbered seating and sold out crowds prevent friends from regularly sitting/standing together.

 

Stewarding has become overbearing.

 

Split tier stands neutralise atmosphere.

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Xerxes has a very strong point there.

I know at least 2 families where the parent(s) regularly take their kids to Prem matches, yet their kids don't kick a ball at all, rarely even in their own garden. How can you muster the same passion levels as a bunch of kids who regularly punt a scabby semi deflated scabby ball around ? Unfortunately, these are the ones that are being priced out of it.

Football came from grass roots level, it's being prised away from that now and is heading down the tennis route - a rich boy's game.

Start by dealing with sub standard players being paid astronomical wages. The less some of these cunts get paid, the less it costs the fans. Put it back within the financial reach of the people who genuinely love their football, and not just the fashionistas.

Then you start to develop a real atmosphere again.

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Football has gone the same way as the Labour party. Started as a great working class ideal sabotaged by a middle class clientele who could not give a fuck about what it ever stood for.

We are locked in now but if I was starting out again I wonder whether I could ever love the game. Probably not. Come on Chicago Grey.

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It's going the way of American sport... family occasion, all very pleasant and 'entertaining'.

In some ways, I welcome that, but...

 

Very little chanting in part of the ground (at City, and I would expect loads of other clubs), and a distinct lack of 'edge'.

 

You don't see clapped out Ford Escorts any more either, it's 4x4's and Mercs and Beamers etc... middle class fans.

 

These are the people that will spend. They'll buy multiple shirts for their kids at xmas, they'll buy the DVDs and the books. They'll buy the expensive hotdogs for their kids instead of the cheap pie at the local chippy.

 

I don't want to go to a game where utter morons fancy kicking someone's head in over the colour of their shirt. I don't want to go to a game where some prick will key your car because you're from Liverpool, or Manchester or London.

 

But I do want genuine elation with a well deserved win. I do want a rocking ground. I do want young kids to be overawed with the experience, not thinking it's a big McDonald's day out.

 

But I can't change what football's become. I still enjoy it, but I have moments of apathy I never used to have.

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To be read in a Roy Keane accent, as authentic or shit or caricatured as you like, or can manage.

 

Those prawn sandwiches don't eat themselves, you know. If they put them on crackerbread, there'd be a fighting chance of some noise. Well at least if they all took a bite at the same time, like!

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