Summer 2013 Transfer Thread

[dennis tooth]

Buying British isn't the death sentence that Kenny and Comolli made it look. Buying the right British players, at the right age, at the right time, is what it's all about.

 

The state of the English national team is more a reflection of the management, not the players. Everything HAS to be based around Rooney and Gerrard. Well, that's 2 players, and so it all becomes about superstars, it's lazy. Then we come up against a really well organised side, with no real superstars, and we get given a lesson.

 

Discipline, intelligence, fitness, this is how you win games and titles and cups. Players who can manage themselves in-game, cover each other, know when to make runs, know when to hold onto the ball. That's why Spain are successful and Argentina are not. Spain's players manage games better, they aren't headless chickens and nutmegging people all over the place. They're just controlling space, controlling risks, and then probing for weaknesses and running in support of the person on the ball, not piling into the box waiting for a cross. Same with Dortmund, Bayern and Barca. All up in support, then all back in place, win the ball back, then resting with the ball for a minute or two and start probing again.

 

We CAN do this with British player. Not ALL British players, but to always look abroad isn't always the answer. A player like Scott Sinclair isn't to be sniffed at, we're snobs when it comes to transfer targets and it's not exactly worked in our favour for 20 years now. The answer doesn't lie at the feet of a £30m player.

 

 

Buying English has its drawback, considering:

1 They're total shit. And

2 pay £10m for unproven, overplayed youth or £5m on Villa.

3 Shelvey.

[Major Tom]

2 pay £10m for unproven, overplayed youth or £5m on Villa.

 

And pay one £20k a week and the other £200k a week. Maths even you can do, dennis.

[WhiskeyJar]

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[Jairzinho]

And pay one £20k a week and the other £200k a week. Maths even you can do, dennis.

 

Atletico won't be paying Villa £200k p/w. They can't afford to.

[Major Tom]

Atletico won't be paying Villa £200k p/w. They can't afford to.

 

Literal Lenny.

[Jairzinho]

Literal Lenny.

 

Well it is fairly relevant. He'll be on about half that, maybe even less.

 

So signing Villa for a few million quid, and then having him on 80k/100k p/w for a couple of years is probably a better deal than spunking £10m on a player that hasn't played outside the Championship, wouldn't currently strengthen the side, and is a confirmed klan member.

[dennis tooth]

Buying British isn't the death sentence that Kenny and Comolli made it look. Buying the right British players, at the right age, at the right time, is what it's all about.

 

The state of the English national team is more a reflection of the management, not the players. Everything HAS to be based around Rooney and Gerrard. Well, that's 2 players, and so it all becomes about superstars, it's lazy. Then we come up against a really well organised side, with no real superstars, and we get given a lesson.

 

Discipline, intelligence, fitness, this is how you win games and titles and cups. Players who can manage themselves in-game, cover each other, know when to make runs, know when to hold onto the ball. That's why Spain are successful and Argentina are not. Spain's players manage games better, they aren't headless chickens and nutmegging people all over the place. They're just controlling space, controlling risks, and then probing for weaknesses and running in support of the person on the ball, not piling into the box waiting for a cross. Same with Dortmund, Bayern and Barca. All up in support, then all back in place, win the ball back, then resting with the ball for a minute or two and start probing again.

 

We CAN do this with British player. Not ALL British players, but to always look abroad isn't always the answer. A player like Scott Sinclair isn't to be sniffed at, we're snobs when it comes to transfer targets and it's not exactly worked in our favour for 20 years now. The answer doesn't lie at the feet of a £30m player.

 

Your sniffing something if you want him anywhere near our club.

[mighty sweater]

Your sniffing something if you want him anywhere near our club.

 

With you on this Dennis. Wouldn't mind seeing him at Anfield for City though.

[ngogswilly]

See, that's your problem, Code72; you don't know anything.

 

Will Hughes is very, very good. He'll go to a top club, if not us, and be a top player.

 

I wouldn't say theres any guarantee of that.

 

People were saying the same thing about Shelvey 4/5 years ago.

 

Hes hardly shite but Shelvey hasn't exactly set the world alight. Nor does he look like he will go on to fulfill all the potential people thought he had. That may change though but I sincerely doubt it.

 

Will Hughes could just as easily go the same route, i.e. Turn in to a decent player but far from top class.

[Dr. J]

I don't remember Shelvey being talked up all that much. It wasn't like he was the next Rodwell/Ramsey/Wilshere et al.

 

It was mainly because he came from the Championship.

[LFC64]

I will be in court at bootle magistrates on the 4th september.

Expect it to be referred to the crown should be fun if you want to come?

 

You want support or heckling?!

[ngogswilly]

I don't remember Shelvey being talked up all that much. It wasn't like he was the next Rodwell/Ramsey/Wilshere et al.

 

It was mainly because he came from the Championship.

 

He was fairly highly rated a few years back. You're probably right that it wasn't quite to the level Hughes is being rated but he was still considered a big prospect and plenty were talking about him.

 

There are parallels to be drawn there.

 

The basic point is nothing is a cert.

 

But maybe sometimes you have to take a risk. Hughes might be worth it in the long run.

 

Christ for all I know Shelvey might turn out brilliant in another few years, on the fact of it right now though it doesn't look likely.

[Innova]

Rodgers just said Coates will be ruled out for most of the season and that lfc is looking out for potential centre backs now.

 

Huge sign that papa might be coming our way?

[fowler9]

Rodgers just said Coates will be ruled out for most of the season and that lfc is looking out for potential centre backs now.

 

Huge sign that papa might be coming our way?

 

more likely Ilori or another cheaper one if Skrtel is staying imo

[Whelan]

We haven't exactly had much luck this window either - this being a case in point! Probably could have shifted Coates on for decent price, and put that towards a centre back, but now we have to get one in without getting any money back.

[WhiskeyJar]

Rodgers just said Coates will be ruled out for most of the season and that lfc is looking out for potential centre backs now.

 

Huge sign that papa might be coming our way?

 

Has he said anything else substantial?

[The Economist]

Has he said anything else substantial?

 

Not re any signings.

[WhiskeyJar]

Brendan Rodgers says there has been no bid for Martin Skrtel #LFC

[Major Tom]

Brendan Rodgers says there has been no bid for Martin Skrtel #LFC

 

There is just so much bullshit flying round.

[WhiskeyJar]

LONDON EVENING STANDARD: Arsenal are prepared to make Karim Benzema their highest-paid player in a bid to sign him from Real Madrid.

 

MANCHESTER EVENING NEWS: Although Everton midfielder Marouane Fellaini is still Reds boss David Moyes' No.1 target, Real's Luka Modric is also on his wanted list, along with team-mate Mesut Ozil.

 

THE JOURNAL: Newcastle United risk losing out on their preferred replacement for Yohan Cabaye unless they can persuade Florian Thauvin to join them over Marseille.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

I think he looked pretty dejected when talking in the press-conference today. He needs the backing to get the players he needs.

[Bobby Hundreds]

He looked down beat. He was looking for a job and then he found a job heaven knows he's miserable now.

 

FSG get your fucking fingers our your fucking arse, no excuses for them fuckers any more they are either in it to compete or not. Show ambition.

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[Russ Atmosphere]

Won't be anyone left at Real what with Pepe, Modric, Ozil, Ronaldo, Khedira, Coentrao, Di Maria, Kaka, Benzema and Iker all still to leave in this window.

 

Haha British newspapers are ace.

[J-V]

I think he looked pretty dejected when talking in the press-conference today. He needs the backing to get the players he needs.

There wont be any players left if these Yank cunts don't pony up some money soon.