Summer 2013 Transfer Thread

[Sangria]

I hate Ryanair, fuck all to do with the summer transfer window but it is a shit airline.

[GJM]

As much as I hate to piss on the gloomfest fireworks, I feel it is only right to point out that, in the past 2 years, without CL football, we have signed Suarez, Coutinho, Sturridge, and Mignolet, and managed to keep hold of Gerrard, Agger and Johnson.

 

How do Spurs do it? The same way that we do. There are actually very few teams that can both afford the salaries these players want and offer a near cast iron guarantee of CL football. Supply outstrips demand.

 

Once you realize that, and you refuse to negotiate as though it is the other way around, you can get good value.

[Jairzinho]

Ryanair are so shit, I don't even mind flying with Easyjet now.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

 

You don't know this. No-one does.

 

Ffs' date=' Jair. It's indicative of the impact he had on spurs and his importantance to the team. Not how both teams would have faired with ten players. Your posts are getting shorter and more curt by the day.

 

With or without Bale they've improved. Bought excellently.

 

With him, they'll almost certainly have improved. Without him, they'll have improved in some areas but they'll have lost the world's most expensive player and one who was vitally important to them. We would only know how much they've improved, if at all, during the season.

 

Bale is a known entity in the league. Soldado, Capoue and co aren't.

[Whelan]

Soldado isn't a guaranteed success! He is 28, and spent all of his previous career playing in Spain. Personally I don't think they have a striker that even approaches the level of Sturridge and Suarez.

 

I notice everyone is ignoring the fact that Spurs sold both Berbatov and Modric in building this side. Because as we all know good sides don't sell their best players!

[PaulMcC]

Soldado is far more proven than Sturridge over his career.

 

Hopefully Sturridge gets as much goals over the next 3 seasons as Soldado has the last 3.

Edited August 15, 2013 by PaulMcC

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Soldado is far more proven than Sturridge over his career.

 

Sturridge is 23. At 23 Soldado was sold by Real after failing to do anything and shifted out to Gatafe where he scored 13 goals the entire season. I'd agree that Soldado is more proven, but he's not proven in the Premier League. Having 5 years on Sturridge, he damned well should be more proven for £30m.

 

I really like Soldado, I think he's quality. Morientes was quality, too. He could hit the ground running and he could struggle. I'd gamble on the former, I'm hoping for the latter.

[Whelan]

What NV said. Which is pretty much what I said. Which is that Soldado isn't a guaranteed success.

[PaulMcC]

Neither is Sturridge guaranteed to be a success next season. I think he will but nothing is guaranteed.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Neither is Sturridge guaranteed to be a success next season. I think he will but nothing is guaranteed.

 

Having a good strike rate his entire career in this league, with a quality goals per minute ratio, and a good start to his LFC career, I'd say it's a safer bet than somebody coming to a new league.

 

Some players handle it with no problems, some can't adjust. Sturridge doesn't need to adjust. I think Soldado will be quality. I think Sturridge has it in him to be a goal machine.

[Gnasher]

Soldado isn't a guaranteed success! He is 28, and spent all of his previous career playing in Spain. Personally I don't think they have a striker that even approaches the level of Sturridge and Suarez.

 

I notice everyone is ignoring the fact that Spurs sold both Berbatov and Modric in building this side. Because as we all know good sides don't sell their best players!

 

Soldado in his first game for spurs looked a very good striker, i think he'll score the goals they've been lacking.

[liverpoolsno9]

That fella on the Sky transfer update thingy whose mouth moves like Wallace off Wallace & Gromit winds me up to fuck.

[Strontium]

Soldado is the closest you can get to a sure thing in football. He'll be another Klinsmann for them.

[Gym Beglin]

I'd prefer Sturridge any day of the week, he's just explosive.

 

Soldado will probably score a few goals, probably on pen duty as well, but Spurs are going to have to reinvent themselves without Bale.

 

I'm also of the opinion that the PL is stronger than La Liga now, I mean, we are a club outside of the top four in this division, what is our equivalent in Spain, Getafe?

Sure, the top 3 in Spain are great teams, but the rest are slipping away at a rate of knots, whereas there is a very strong group of clubs in this division like us, Everton, Newcastle, Swansea, Norwich, Fulham, Southampton, these can beat any of the top clubs on any given day. There isn't that same strength in mid table clubs in Spain, one needs only to look at the, quite frankly, ridiculous number of goals scored by Ronaldo and Messi each season.

 

So, for me, it's a big step up for Soldado and the jury is out on a 28 year old coming into this division to hit the ground running. That said, Michu made it look easy.

 

I can imagine Sturridge ripping defences to pieces in La Liga.

[Whelan]

Never been anything other then 'meh' for me, same with Negredo. Thankfully Adebayor is sticking around clogging up their wage bill!

[liverpoolsno9]

I couldn't imagine Sturridge ripping up La Liga.Where were Blbao in La liga when they embarrassed Utd in the UEFA cup last year? Utd finished 2nd to City, Bilbao finished 10th. Using the amount of goals Messi & Ronaldo score to back up your arguement is a bit unfair. They are the 2 best players on the World by a fuckin mile. Ronaldo scored around 40 here as well didn't he?

[liverpoolsno9]

I'd prefer Sturridge any day of the week, he's just explosive.

 

Soldado will probably score a few goals, probably on pen duty as well, but Spurs are going to have to reinvent themselves without Bale.

 

I'm also of the opinion that the PL is stronger than La Liga now, I mean, we are a club outside of the top four in this division, what is our equivalent in Spain, Getafe?

Sure, the top 3 in Spain are great teams, but the rest are slipping away at a rate of knots, whereas there is a very strong group of clubs in this division like us, Everton, Newcastle, Swansea, Norwich, Fulham, Southampton, these can beat any of the top clubs on any given day. There isn't that same strength in mid table clubs in Spain, one needs only to look at the, quite frankly, ridiculous number of goals scored by Ronaldo and Messi each season.

 

So, for me, it's a big step up for Soldado and the jury is out on a 28 year old coming into this division to hit the ground running. That said, Michu made it look easy.

 

I can imagine Sturridge ripping defences to pieces in La Liga.

 

 

 

I couldn't imagine Sturridge ripping up La Liga.Where were Blbao in La liga when they embarrassed Utd in the UEFA cup last year? Utd finished 2nd to City, Bilbao finished 10th. Using the amount of goals Messi & Ronaldo score to back up your arguement is a bit unfair. They are the 2 best players on the World by a fuckin mile. Ronaldo scored around 40 here as well didn't he? Spain's top 10 pisses all over ours in my IMO.

[Whelan]

Well Kanoute, Morientes, Alouisi, Forlan, Luque, etc didn't exactly tear up the English league! But, did okay out there.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Soldado's decent and should bag 15-20 goals, but at 28 and moving to a new league he's a risk at the price paid, a calculated risk, but a risk nonetheless.

 

As for the comparisons to Sturridge, well i honestly think some fans just want to doubt him.

[Red Banjo]

I'd prefer Sturridge any day of the week, he's just explosive.

 

Soldado will probably score a few goals, probably on pen duty as well, but Spurs are going to have to reinvent themselves without Bale.

 

I'm also of the opinion that the PL is stronger than La Liga now, I mean, we are a club outside of the top four in this division, what is our equivalent in Spain, Getafe?

Sure, the top 3 in Spain are great teams, but the rest are slipping away at a rate of knots, whereas there is a very strong group of clubs in this division like us, Everton, Newcastle, Swansea, Norwich, Fulham, Southampton, these can beat any of the top clubs on any given day. There isn't that same strength in mid table clubs in Spain, one needs only to look at the, quite frankly, ridiculous number of goals scored by Ronaldo and Messi each season.

 

So, for me, it's a big step up for Soldado and the jury is out on a 28 year old coming into this division to hit the ground running. That said, Michu made it look easy.

 

I can imagine Sturridge ripping defences to pieces in La Liga.

 

 

True dat.

 

The fact Soldado gave up Champions League football and playing for a top team in Spain speaks volumes about how the league is starting to suffer. The league have cottoned onto it by requesting a meeting with the big 2 about how the TV money is split, but i cant see too much changing really, those 2 will again finish 10-20 points infront of Athletico, who will inturn finish 10 points clear of the rest. It really is just a glamorous SPL.

[xerxes]

I can imagine Sturridge ripping defences to pieces in La Liga.

 

There has never been any question of Sturridge's ability, but there is a question mark about his desire and application at City and Chelsea.

 

Is he really top Four stuff or is he a Bolton/ Blackburn quality man, we will see this full season.

Edited August 15, 2013 by xerxes

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

True dat.

 

The fact Soldado gave up Champions League football

 

Didn't qualify this year, mate.

[Whelan]

This is quite good!

 

La Liga season preview 2013-2014 | Sid Lowe | Football | theguardian.com

 

Also adds a bit of context.

[Whelan]

There has never been na question of Sturridge's ability, but there is a question mark about his desire and application at City and Chelsea.

 

Is he really top Four stuff or is he a Bolton/ Blackburn quality man, we will see this full season.

 

City?

 

He hardly played for them, and left for the champions who were spending a shit load on strikers, I would argue that move renders any questions about his desire moot.

[Jairzinho]

Ffs, Jair. It's indicative of the impact he had on spurs and his importantance to the team. Not how both teams would have faired with ten players. Your posts are getting shorter and more curt by the day.

 

 

 

With him, they'll almost certainly have improved. Without him, they'll have improved in some areas but they'll have lost the world's most expensive player and one who was vitally important to them. We would only know how much they've improved, if at all, during the season.

 

Bale is a known entity in the league. Soldado, Capoue and co aren't.

 

You made a point which had no basis in reality, it didn't really deserve a longer reply. Its the sort of stat Code would use, and you'd, rightly, hammer him for it.

 

Messi is an unknown entity as well. Soldado will rip the Premier League to shreds. As he would in Italy, or Germany, or Neptune.

 

Sorry, I really can't be fucked to write long posts. I spend most of my day writing, this place is a release.