Danny Baker's..

[Strontium]

3 minutes ago, moof said:

Classic racism apologism 

 

Well, it's basic anthropology, but you can call it what you like. Just as you refer to a baby that is at least three-fourths white as black.

[moof]

3 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

That's fine, sounds like you disagree with Chomsky about antisemitism too; many do, we can't all sing from the same hymn sheet.

??

[Bjornebye]

 

 

[Davelfc]

[Skidfingers McGonical]

6 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

Well, it's basic anthropology, but you can call it what you like. Just as you refer to a baby that is at least three-fourths white as black.

So what your saying is that it’s only a 25% chance of a it being a victim of racism and 75% of being a racist like good old Great Grandad?

[Babb'sBurstNad]

1 minute ago, moof said:

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To paraphrase - that an act, because it falls in line with what racists do, should not automatically be considered as the same. Motivations need to be taken into account.

 

It's the same principle for antisemitism, and all other forms of racism.

 

For reference, I agree that in the overwhelming amount of occasions, linking anyone of African heritage to an ape is racist. I just don't agree with the blanket statement, as it leaves no room for nuance or basic human fallibility.

[Pidge]

Looks like he's done something completely tone deaf (at best), arrogantly assumed he can just brush it off and found out he can't.  Fair enough.

 

Can't help but find the tone of the uproar a touch puritanical though.  I think it must be the usual "privilege" rhetoric being used in the sense of a member of the royal family having less than a third-tier radio personality...

 

If him referring to the royal family as monkeys genuinely is a running gag of his, then I don't see how anyone can claim it to be racist.  However, like 90% of the people weighing in, I haven't a fucking clue about his work this century so can't really speak to it.

[mars]

Isn't Baker being sacked for his lack of judgement? The BBC cannot be certain that this was an honest mistake so I can understand why they did what they did. Whatever reason Baker gives, he failed to see how inappropriate the image was.

 

And isn't it a positive that lots of people were offended? Suggests to me that today more people have a better awareness of what might offend others. 

 

Does that make me a snowflake?

[VladimirIlyich]

2 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

Then how would we know who to hate? 

Its always the Muslims. You don't need Twitter to tell you that.

[Bjornebye]

11 minutes ago, mars said:

Isn't Baker being sacked for his lack of judgement? The BBC cannot be certain that this was an honest mistake so I can understand why they did what they did. Whatever reason Baker gives, he failed to see how inappropriate the image was.

 

And isn't it a positive that lots of people were offended? Suggests to me that today more people have a better awareness of what might offend others. 

 

Does that make me a snowflake?

You got a lot of nerve showing your face around here, Hauser

[mars]

3 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

You got a lot of nerve showing your face around here, Hauser

Look who's talking.

[Rico1304]

9 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Its always the Muslims. You don't need Twitter to tell you that.

Oh fuck off you prick. It’s unvaccinated Muslims. 

[Anubis]

I think we’re all missing the point that, irrespective of the motivations or reasoning behind the chimpanzee tweet, he should have been sacked for coughing that he has red sauce on a sausage sandwich....

[johnsusername]

[johnsusername]

Megan Markle looks like a fella. 

[Pureblood]

59 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

You clearly didn't understand it, then.

I bow to your superior intellect. 

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, johnsusername said:

Megan Markle looks like a fella. 

"That chicks a bloke" 

[Rico1304]

She’s fit as fuck. But she’s no Donna. 

[Leyton388]

3 minutes ago, johnsusername said:

Megan Markle looks like a fella. 

She looks like Coutinho.

 

 

[KMD7]

2 minutes ago, Leyton388 said:

She looks like Coutinho.

 

 

Would

[Remmie]

No one has mentioned the shocking levels of speciesism in this thread. Here's a youtube song to explain more:

 

 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

24 minutes ago, Leyton388 said:

She looks like Coutinho.

 

 

Edge of the box, dribbling in the hole etc.

[Sugar Ape]

1 hour ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

But, if at the point of comparison, the person's race is unknown, then it is hard to define the act as one centring on race. I could call you an ape - I'm unaware of your race - is that immediately racist, or does it become retrospectively racist if you then tell me you're black?

 

1 hour ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

With regards to Baker, he’s made many a comment about monkeys and the royals. A bit of foresight would have benefitted, and he did apologise and take it down straight away. For the BBC to sack him and let Sugar keep his job despite being a massive racist himself and giving Farage the amount of air time they do, seems a bit fucking rich.  

 

Ex-fucking-scuse me. I’ve got feelings too you know.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

1 minute ago, Sugar Ape said:

 

 

Ex-fucking-scuse me. I’ve got feelings too you know.

 

[VladimirIlyich]

29 minutes ago, Leyton388 said:

She looks like Coutinho.

 

 

A bit of a tart then.