Danny Baker's..

[moof]

10 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

But, if at the point of comparison, the person's race is unknown, then it is hard to define the act as one centring on race. I could call you an ape - I'm unaware of your race - is that immediately racist, or does it become retrospectively racist if you then tell me you're black?

Right. I find it hard to imagine he’s unaware of Meghan Markle’s ethnicity, but carry on

[Davelfc]

1 minute ago, moof said:

Impressive to be tweeting from under the bus

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Just now, moof said:

Right. I find it hard to imagine he’s unaware of Meghan Markle’s ethnicity, but carry on

It was a hypothetical question, but if you want to avoid it, that's fine.

[moof]

1 minute ago, Rico1304 said:

#metoo

We all know about your multiple accounts so this isn’t the shocking admission you think it is. 

[Pureblood]

12 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

But, if at the point of comparison, the person's race is unknown, then it is hard to define the act as one centring on race. I could call you an ape - I'm unaware of your race - is that immediately racist, or does it become retrospectively racist if you then tell me you're black?

How is their race unknown if there is an image of the person in question?

[Skidfingers McGonical]

1 hour ago, moof said:

It’s racist. It stands alone as being racist, you don’t need to contextualise it with all of his views for the last 40 years. Portraying the first mixed race royal baby as a chimp? Yeah, fuck right off with that one 

Mixed race is also a racist term.

 

[moof]

Just now, Babb'sBurstNad said:

It was a hypothetical question, but if you want to avoid it, that's fine.

Hypothetical? Why not deal with the reality? It was a racist tweet

[moof]

Just now, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Mixed race is also a racist term.

 

Fucking sack me then 

[Skidfingers McGonical]

2 minutes ago, moof said:

Fucking sack me then 

I ain’t the boss of you. 

[Remmie]

28 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

What if the person posting the image were unaware of the target's race?

 

What if the person posting was black?

 

Is it always defined as racist because of the image itself, with no regard for any other factors?

This post is dripping with despicable intention and racist undertones and I, for one, AM OUTRAGED.

 

This country.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

3 minutes ago, TK421 said:

How is their race unknown if there is an image of the person in question?

There isn't; it's a hypothetical question.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

With regards to Baker, he’s made many a comment about monkeys and the royals. A bit of foresight would have benefitted, and he did apologise and take it down straight away. For the BBC to sack him and let Sugar keep his job despite being a massive racist himself and giving Farage the amount of air time they do, seems a bit fucking rich.  

[aws]

This is all PG gone mad. 

 

 

*courtesy of RAOTL * 

[Pureblood]

1 minute ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

There isn't; it's a hypothetical question.

It's a bit of a crap question, then.

[SasaS]

I find it completely incomprehensible that Danny Baker would deliberately tweet a picture of a monkey (ape) to allude to the child's race. That would imply he thought people would find that funny or amusing, or that no one would react. How could he possibly think he would get away with that and why would he want to?  

[Mook]

3 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

With regards to Baker, he’s made many a comment about monkeys and the royals. A bit of foresight would have benefitted, and he did apologise and take it down straight away. For the BBC to sack him and let Sugar keep his job despite being a massive racist himself and giving Farage the amount of air time they do, seems a bit fucking rich.  

Not to mention having operated as some sort of nonce sanctuary throughout the 70s.

 

The BBC can fuck off.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

4 minutes ago, moof said:

Hypothetical? Why not deal with the reality? It was a racist tweet

Because, if you can't define why it's racist - much like Chomsky delving into the blanket statement of antisemitism and holocaust denial - then you're at best relying on half-baked logic, and at worst following a crowd because you're either unable or unwilling to analyse your own reactionary condemnation.

 

That's the point of hypotheticals in such instances.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

4 minutes ago, TK421 said:

It's a bit of a crap question, then.

You clearly didn't understand it, then.

[moof]

6 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

I ain’t the boss of you. 

 

 

Sorry my insensitive language has whipped some up, I was unaware of the connotations since I don’t have a diseased mind like the rest of you. Now I have removed the post me and my family would like some privacy, thank you 

[moof]

1 minute ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

Because, if you can't define why it's racist - much like Chomsky delving into the blanket statement of antisemitism and holocaust denial - then you're at best relying on half-baked logic, and at worst following a crowd because you're either unable or unwilling to analyse your own reactionary condemnation.

 

That's the point of hypotheticals in such instances.

Comparing a black baby to a chimp is racist 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

1 minute ago, moof said:

Comparing a black baby to a chimp is racist 

I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

[moof]

2 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

Whatever floats your boat fella. 

 

Intentions are irrelevent. It’s about the impact. He compared a baby of African heritage to a chimpanzee and when he was pulled up on it his defence was he didn’t notice because he doesn’t have a diseased mind. 

 

Thats racist. I’m terribly sorry

[Strontium]

Isn't everyone of African heritage, ultimately?

[moof]

Just now, Strontium Dog said:

Isn't everyone of African heritage, ultimately?

Classic racism apologism 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Just now, moof said:

Whatever floats your boat fella. 

 

Intentions are irrelevent. It’s about the impact. He compared a baby of African heritage to a chimpanzee and when he was pulled up on it his defence was he didn’t notice because he doesn’t have a diseased mind. 

 

Thats racist. I’m terribly sorry

That's fine, sounds like you disagree with Chomsky about antisemitism too; many do, we can't all sing from the same hymn sheet.