FSG - Time to give them some credit?

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I have to say I disagree with almost everything LFD says about our club, whether he discussing on or off the pitch stuff. However, he obviously cares about the club, and hes not usually offensive. And by being wrong he generates debate, so I'm going to stick up for him here.

[VladimirIlyich]

 

When people say they bailed the club out' date=' it makes it sound like they were the only offer on the table. They weren't, although they were perhaps the best of a bad bunch.

 

I don't even think we need a rich billionnaire, but I think our policy has been wrong so far. It wouldn't be sustainable, but it wouldn't have to be. We are investing heavily in youth team players, so surely these kids coming through should be for our future, rather than the likes of Coutinho, Allen and Borini?

 

I don't see the point in signing Coutinho, when we already have Sterling and Jordan Ibe, for Allen we already have Henderson, we seem to have adopted a scatter gun approach, rather than focusing on what we actually need now.

 

We need a leader at the back, A Carragher version 2. Very difficult to find, but a vocal commanding presence.

 

We need a versatile flair player, somebody who can play wide or behind the striker, who can create a bit of magic, a match winner. Santi Carzola was available for £15 million, although I'm not sure if he'd have come here. Possibly under a different manager?

 

We need a big powerhouse midfielder. Diame was on the verge of signing allegedly, and would have been fantastic on a free. In the Premiership, sometimes you need a bit of height and muscle, and we lack that type of player here.

 

I think at the moment we're not that far away from being top four again, but the longer we stay away, the harder it will be to get back.[/quote']

 

Can't blame the owners for shit signings,in your opinion. They have backed both managers very well in the transfer market and if you want to complain about Rodgers there's plenty of other threads on here to do that in.

They are running the club like a sustainable long term business with no frills and after our previous owners that's ok by me.

 

We need this player,we need that player,well that's the manager and his scouts jobs so first they must identify the players and ask for the money.

Dempsey apart,the owners appear to have backed the manager fine so no problems from me on that score.

[Bobby Hundreds]

I don't like the way our squad is heading, I don't feel like we are a club that wants to win things I think we are a club that wants to produce or buy young players cheaply so we can sell them at a profit. A production line for other clubs. Ambitious clubs in this league buy players who improve on what they have, we are buying players hoping more than anything that one day they will prove themselves.

[xerxes]

When people say they bailed the club out, it makes it sound like they were the only offer on the table. They weren't, although they were perhaps the best of a bad bunch.

 

Not true.

 

FSG were the only proceedable party able to pay a non-refundable deposit and complete at an agreed price in an acceptable time frame.

[JustTosh]

After Kenny's splashing around dosh as a drunken sailor me thinks they're doing the right ting. Long term planning is the way forward.

 

We had a disaterous wage structure which is being fixed. My only fear is they'll sell Suarez at an inflated price, because that man is priceless.

 

So far so good for FSG. No complaints.

[A_S]

We need a leader at the back, A Carragher version 2. Very difficult to find, but a vocal commanding presence.

 

He was great tonight I thought.

 

How much would a 25 year old Jamie Carragher be worth in today's market??

[Guest LFD]

After Kenny's splashing around dosh as a drunken sailor

 

1) Show some respect to Dalglish, for all he has done for the club.

 

2) Comolli did the negotiating and fees, not Dalglish.

[Coro]

After Kenny's splashing around dosh as a drunken sailor me thinks they're doing the right ting

 

Why isolate it to just Dalglish? Who hired Comolli? FSG did. On whose recommendation? A baseball GM's. Did you know that?

 

Comolli managed to sue the club for unfair dismissal despite FSG bringing in their top lawyer. At what cost to the club in all? Why didn't FSG fly this guy in rather than hiring Lionel Hutz to defend Suarez when the Uruguayan was accused of racism?

 

Why have they failed, despite their promises of bringing in the right experience, to fill the CEO role? 2 years ago they said they were conducting a 'worldwide search' but have since instead opted to promote the ill equipped Ian Ayre to managing director.

 

With each major appointment and with each difficult circumstance they've faced they have come out looking nothing more than incompetent and completely out of their depth.

 

Yes, give them credit for having money and being able to buy a football club, good for them but they get little credit for their lack knowledge and understanding of the game and this club.

 

Their transfer policy left us with one recognised striker for the first half of this season. Their policy saw the club sign Sahin on loan and send him back half way through its duration. So, despite the money spent on Sturridge and Coutinho we haven't really moved forwards as a squad, merely we are where we should have been at the start of the season.

 

So, no, they should get fuck all in the way of credit for playing a pretty big part in leaving us short this season. That they hired someone like Comolli to spend big money in tandem with a manager who they didn't see as a long term solution and not their ideal choice should prove to be a learning curve for them but such is my cynicism cos of their continued botch ups I'm not getting my hopes up.

 

I think Rodgers has a bit of a fight on his hands trying to convince FSG that they should back off and let the experts have greater control.

[TheHowieLama]

Meh - they're Americans, how good can it get?

[Nightcat]

After Kenny's splashing around dosh as a drunken sailor me thinks they're doing the right ting. Long term planning is the way forward.

 

We had a disaterous wage structure which is being fixed. My only fear is they'll sell Suarez at an inflated price, because that man is priceless.

 

So far so good for FSG. No complaints.

 

Just fuck off with your late night revisionist bullshit. No one believes your shite.

 

Remind us who signed Suarez again? Was it Freddy Macaronni from Boston harlequins, or Terry Barchedona from the Washington fuzzy bears?

[Coro]

Just to add, the hiring of Chang is just a small nugget in a bowl of mammoth turds.

 

The whiff of that calamity hardly registers.

[G Richards]

I agree with LFD. FSG get credit in my book. I am waiting for the stadium to progress, but other than that I am happy. They have backed the manager. We have a young up and coming manager and a young squad. We need some patience and I believe it will all come good.

[KopOut]

They're pissing in the wind.

[Unrighteous]

They're pissing in the wind.

 

[vanball]

Meh - they're Americans, how good can it get?

 

Xenophobe - they get football better than you think

[Guest ShoePiss]

Xenophobe - they get football better than you think

 

Funny²

[therevivalist]

Credit they deserve. It's up to the manager to spend wisely.

[xerxes]

Why isolate it to just Dalglish? Who hired Comolli? FSG did.

 

An excellent post in full, Coro.

 

It was Dalglish’s appointment and terms of reference which were flawed. Without exception we have got the upsides, and downsides of each non playing appointment made.

 

Bearing in mind Rodger’s inexperience, he has done a pretty good job to date. My backing for Rodgers is on the basis that he is our only hope, there is no expertise or magic going to come from FSG.

 

Insofar as the fact that FSG saved us from Administration and have us operating on a sensible business footing, thank you very much. Beyond that we simply do not have the know-how at Board level to outthink the top four.

[VladimirIlyich]

Outthinking the top four,what the heck does that mean?

 

This is the role of manager and scouts in spotting players to buy before the big four are willing to splash their cash and we can't/won't compete.

 

Our problems now are mainly footballing ones and that's a big step forward.

[Jairzinho]

They need a song.

 

Heroes.

[Whelan]

So, despite the money spent on Sturridge and Coutinho we haven't really moved forwards as a squad, merely we are where we should have been at the start of the season.

 

If an owners job is to write the cheques, then they have done just that! Sorry but they have provided a minimum £20m in the January window - it was Rodgers decision not to sign Sturridge in the summer - and their decision not to pay the rate for Dempsey.

 

You can't argue that they haven't put enough money in, then dismiss money when it is spent - the fact is that the squad has been improved.

[Dr Nowt]

They need a song.

 

Heroes.

 

We are FSG

Won't sign any adults with me

 

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[cmuller]

The kids are alright

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any excuse

[xerxes]

Outthinking the top four,what the heck does that mean?

 

This is the role of manager and scouts in spotting players to buy before the big four are willing to splash their cash and we can't/won't compete.

 

Our problems now are mainly footballing ones and that's a big step forward.

 

You answer your own question.

 

The top four berths require lots of cash to be spent on, and off, the field.

 

FSG's premise is that by outwitting the others, we can claim a top four berth by making smarter decisions, but not spending at their level .

 

That presupposes that we have the personnel at Board level to do that, and i don't think we do. It also requires luck, which is always a dangerous business assumption.