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Philippe Coutinho


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Do you want Russian or Chinese gangsters,or Saudi money men as owners? This seems to be the only other option in today's climate.

No. Last year we had a chance to compete but these twats never made any money available and made a profit in the transfer market. Same this year if we buy no one and some more squad players leave. If they had backed Klopp to bring in 2 or 3 more players last season we could have challenged Chelsea for the title and we wouldn't have been worrying about Hoffenheim. It didn't need a man city spending spree as most teams were inconsistent and average.

 

I am fine with how they said they would run the club by spending what we earn but we don't even do that now. The club generates a lot of money and has the potential to earn more due to our fan base. An sensible and forward thinking owner who is prepared to put in some of his own money on top of that would be ideal rather than having some dodgy Russian or Saudi.

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No. Last year we had a chance to compete but these twats never made any money available and made a profit in the transfer market. Same this year if we buy no one and some more squad players leave. If they had backed Klopp to bring in 2 or 3 more players last season we could have challenged Chelsea for the title and we wouldn't have been worrying about Hoffenheim. It didn't need a man city spending spree as most teams were inconsistent and average.

 

I am fine with how they said they would run the club by spending what we earn but we don't even do that now. The club generates a lot of money and has the potential to earn more due to our fan base. An sensible and forward thinking owner who is prepared to put in some of his own money on top of that would be ideal rather than having some dodgy Russian or Saudi.

To be fair I don't think anyone thought we'd compete for the league last summer, just getting CL was clearly the aim, I agree though that we should have strengthened in January when we was up there and could have easily won the league.

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I honestly think they're willing to spend money, but they just screw up the deals, which is an offshoot of appointing people like Edwards who're learning on the job. Utd had the same problem with Woodward, just look at his first window trying to back Moyes and it's eerily familiar.

They seemed to have no problems buying the club in a very very complex deal and tend to have fewer problems selling players and getting sponsorship deals. Why when it comes to buying players is there huge problems.

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I honestly think they're willing to spend money, but they just screw up the deals, which is an offshoot of appointing people like Edwards who're learning on the job. Utd had the same problem with Woodward, just look at his first window trying to back Moyes and it's eerily familiar.

We'll probably bid £5m for a sniff of Fellaini's soiled underwear.

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The £120mil figure freaks me out because it's the exact amount I've had in my head that I thought Barca could offer and FSG wouldn't refuse. The whole thing is probably another example of media bullshit, but I'm not sure if that type of figure would be refused. Guess we'll see if they really try it.

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The £120mil figure freaks me out because it's the exact amount I've had in my head that I thought Barca could offer and FSG wouldn't refuse. The whole thing is probably another example of media bullshit, but I'm not sure if that type of figure would be refused. Guess we'll see if they really try it.

That's proper moneyball though £112m profit, if that's there aim then they've done extremely well and been a huge success here. If trophies is the aim they've failed miserably.

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That's proper moneyball though £112m profit, if that's there aim then they've done extremely well and been a huge success here. If trophies is the aim they've failed miserably.

 

That's probably what they're thinking to an extent. If only they'd think of the benefits to the club of keeping him for even one more season and making two or three top signings instead. The short term cash grab instead of the chance to return as one of the top clubs again with better investment in the squad. It's complete fucking stupidity really.

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That's probably what they're thinking to an extent. If only they'd think of the benefits to the club of keeping him for even one more season and making two or three top signings instead. The short term cash grab instead of the chance to return as one of the top clubs again with better investment in the squad. It's complete fucking stupidity really.

What's your basis for saying it's stupidity? You're thinking like a fan and not an investor. FSG couldn't give a shit if we won nothing ever again. They're here to increase the capital value of the club. They're doing that brilliantly and will continue to play the balancing act aiming 4-7th, while brining the maximum rewards with minimum investment and when they do invest, it will be at minimum risk.
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What's your basis for saying it's stupidity? You're thinking like a fan and not an investor. FSG couldn't give a shit if we won nothing ever again. They're here to increase the capital value of the club. They're doing that brilliantly and will continue to play the balancing act aiming 4-7th, while brining the maximum rewards with minimum investment and when they do invest, it will be at minimum risk.

Brilliantly? Do you reckon?

I think they've done some things well from an investor point of view, but only because Hicks & Gillett wanted to pillage cash and Moores, Parry and that board had no clue.

 

If FSG had managed to appoint smart football operators with spending just the same amount of money the value of the club and earnings could be way higher. Instead they've lurched from one snake oil statistician salesman to another, seem to specialise in slimeball CEOs with rather more mouth than talent.

 

If they'd been rather more competent they could be looking at a lot greater return.

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What's your basis for saying it's stupidity? You're thinking like a fan and not an investor. FSG couldn't give a shit if we won nothing ever again. They're here to increase the capital value of the club. They're doing that brilliantly and will continue to play the balancing act aiming 4-7th, while brining the maximum rewards with minimum investment and when they do invest, it will be at minimum risk.

Sadly,I think this is 100% correct

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Brilliantly? Do you reckon?

I think they've done some things well from an investor point of view, but only because Hicks & Gillett wanted to pillage cash and Moores, Parry and that board had no clue.

 

If FSG had managed to appoint smart football operators with spending just the same amount of money the value of the club and earnings could be way higher. Instead they've lurched from one snake oil statistician salesman to another, seem to specialise in slimeball CEOs with rather more mouth than talent.

 

If they'd been rather more competent they could be looking at a lot greater return.

What would a smart head of football operations do? I suspect ask for more investment. Better having some no mark like Edwards running the show. They paid 200m for a business they now value at 1bn - they could be selling Coutinho for 120m alone and even if they don't sell, I suspect the money is on the table. Regardless of if large parts of that are down to the PL rather than themselves, I suspect everyone at FSG is delighted with their investment.
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