Philippe Coutinho

[Bobby Hundreds]

Id be livid if we sold him now purely because I don't want him or Barca to get their own way.

[Hades]

They don't agitate like they used to. Where's the biting, for the third time, in a World Cup Knockout stage match?

[Talismanic]

Doesn't play before the international break he doesn't go. Wouldn't trust him not to do a Costa when he's back in South America anyway.

Have a coffee you mean?

[Thoth]

Id be livid if we sold him now purely because I don't want him or Barca to get their own way.

 

Saints fans like this!!

[M_B]

Ed Aarons‏ @ed_aarons  1h1 hour ago

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PSG knew that #Seri's release clause was only valid outside France and so offered more than €40m, causing Barça to pull out of race

 

 

 

 

That doesn't make sense to me. PSG offering more would not affect Barcelona's ability to trigger his release clause.

 

Edit: To follow up on that, this is from the Guardian

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/24/psg-barcelona-jean-seri-fee

 

"It is understood that while Seri’s agreement allowed him to join a club outside France for €40m, that did not apply for any domestic move and PSG therefore decided to offer substantially more. In response, Nice informed Barcelona that their asking price had now increased to €50m, causing them to withdraw their interest on Wednesday."

 

Since when has a release clause been negotiable? Sounds like the clause is bollocks to me.

[J-V]

It isn't a clause just a verbal agreement with the player. Obviously if there's a higher offer on the table Nice can't be expected to sell lower.

[Jockey]

Saints fans like this!!

I don't give a fuck what Sainta fans 'be like'.

 

They've beem whinging, hypocritical cunts throughout this. We don't want to sell, they do.

[jimmycase]

Fuck me, barcelona not prepared to pay 50m euros after they've got £200m swilling around their bank account?

[Thoth]

I don't give a fuck what Sainta fans 'be like'.

 

[Jockey]

Haha!

[M_B]

It isn't a clause just a verbal agreement with the player. Obviously if there's a higher offer on the table Nice can't be expected to sell lower.

 

They can if the agreement was to sell to a foreign club for 40 million.

 

First rule of agreements - get it on paper and signed.

[M_B]

Fuck me, barcelona not prepared to pay 50m euros after they've got £200m swilling around their bank account?

 

Big stadium to pay for and debt? But maybe they just think they are being taken for a ride, which they are.

[Crazy Dave]

The release clause expired in July. Nice told Seri that they would honour it for him to move to Barcelona. 

 

Then PSG shows up, offers a shitload of cash, and suddenly Nice changes their mind on their agreement with Seri. 

[The Guest]

They're in the big game now and they don't like it. Everyone gets taken for a ride. If you want to sign an in demand player who's tied down at a club then pay what they want or don't sign him. They've had years of being able to just get clubs to fold to them because the players they are after will kick up a stink. It was never going to last forever and this appears to be the summer where a lot are saying no to them.

 

They know what will happen the first time they properly pay over the odds. Any time they go for a player after that will mean they can't pull their old tricks. The other option is to not over pay and that will hopefully mean they go into the season with what they've got. They're in a catch 22 and I hope it all comes crashing down.

[Pureblood]

They're in the big game now and they don't like it. Everyone gets taken for a ride. If you want to sign an in demand player who's tied down at a club then pay what they want or don't sign him. They've had years of being able to just get clubs to fold to them because the players they are after will kick up a stink. It was never going to last forever and this appears to be the summer where a lot are saying no to them.

 

They know what will happen the first time they properly pay over the odds. Any time they go for a player after that will mean they can't pull their old tricks. The other option is to not over pay and that will hopefully mean they go into the season with what they've got. They're in a catch 22 and I hope it all comes crashing down.

 

You talking about us or Barca?

[The Guest]

You talking about us or Barca?

We've been paying over the odds for years TK.

[Pureblood]

We've been paying over the odds for years TK.

 

It was just a lighthearted comment,  but the situations this summer are identical as far as I can tell.  You could be talking about either club in that post.

[TheHowieLama]

I would bid 50 m euro for Seri right now

[G Richards]

Unless we sign good players to go straight into the team - minimum top class defender, plus a top class Coutinho replacement (though ideally I'd want another midfielder and a back up winger too) then Coutinho stays. The money is no good unless we sign players. We have money and can't sign the ones we want. I'd be skeptical about having even more money as it will be squirreled away.

 

If players want more control, they need exit clauses in their contracts. It's not difficult. The terms would all be laid out. In exchange the club signs them up on a longer deal.

 

Coutinho has no exit clause, so if a deal with Barcelona is to be struck, it has to be win-win, or else we won't sell. Our win is good players. If we had VVD and Keita already here, and say decided to buy Aubameyang or Draxler with the Coutinho money, fine, go then.

 

But as things stand we are well short ourselves and in no position to deal.

[The Guest]

Yeah I agree to a certain extent. From an objective POV I'd be on Southampton's side with Van Dijk like I am with liverpools on Coutinho. There needs to reach a point where clubs say no and the players and agents need to learn a lesson. Contracts need to mean something or the whole system falls down.

 

I do think we have overpaid for players previously even though some of them worked out (some obvious ones haven't). I don't remember Barca ever overpaying for a player that was in demand. If we end up buying Van Dijk for 60/70m though I think that would put us in the next stratosphere when discussing future transfers which the club should worry about.

[magicrat]

Sky reporting Barca have bought Dembele for £110 m

 

Eat your heart out Phil or better still dry your tears and get your boots on you crying cunt, 

[Einch]

Statements and interviews never helped Suarez. Phil must have forgotten that.

[magicrat]

Statements and interviews never helped Suarez. Phil must have forgotten that.

 

Like he forgot about the 5 year contract he was happy to sign in January. They live in a complete bubble these lads. 

[rubble-rouser]

Badly advised or otherwise, the strategy over the last week seems to have been one of alienating the fans completely. For a player who was previously universally popular that is just fucking stupid. 

[VladimirIlyich]

Badly advised or otherwise, the strategy over the last week seems to have been one of alienating the fans completely. For a player who was previously universally popular that is just fucking stupid.

Worked out ok for Stevie G.