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What Alex tends to do is gather a lot of facts (researched.) but then he creates this image of where he thinks things are going or adds his own theories, and they can often be wrong, which clearly doesn't help him when people pick up on that aspect.

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shut up

 

Why? Because if I list most of his facts it proves he isn't totally crazy? OK. Maybe people will wake up to reality a bit if they research though, just saying.

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If you're really going to make me list everything he said that was right, I'll have to watch it again, make the list and post back later. Do I have to? If you actually research each thing he said he's referencing a lot of known facts. Of course he throws some crazy in here and there and shouts/screams from time to time, but he does usually speak after having researched the facts of what he's talking about.

 

People tend to overly focus on the crazier things he says and the way he acts instead of the facts he speaks about. BTW I don't watch his show or use his site, (I have done from time to time though.) I'm not into his style of doing things, but I don't think he's just crazy and know that he does research a lot.

 

He might be right about what he says, but what he's saying is wrong. He is stating facts yea, clearly, because he had the papers in his hand to back it up, but to use them to say that people need more guns, to combat the government, and that gun crime doesn't matter because people can still throw rocks at each other is not the point Piers was making.

 

Just seen your post two above me, is that what you mean?

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Why? Because if I list most of his facts it proves he isn't totally crazy? OK.

 

Yeah that'll be it.

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Just seen your post two above me, is that what you mean?

 

Basically, yeah. A lot of people in conspiracy circles think he causes more damage than good, but at the same time you get a lot of people that openly admit he was the guy that first opened their eyes, even if they did move on. I just think it's kind of unfair to simply label him as a nutcase, or in this latest context, a "gun nut."

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I just think it's kind of unfair to simply label him as a nutcase, or in this latest context, a "gun nut."

 

It's not unfair because he clearly is both these things. Of course he might also just be playing a madman for the money. In which case: fair play to him.

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It's not unfair because he clearly is both these things. Of course he might also just be playing a madman for the money. In which case: fair play to him.

 

Ok, he's a nutcase and gun nut, but he also knows a lot about corruption and does actually research, inbetween waving his guns around, shouting, barking like a dog, screaming about 12 foot lizards, etc.

 

I give in! Am out of here.

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I don't know, I bet Alex is a lot of fun after a few pints. I'd rather have a bevy with him and get mental than be bored out me arse listening to Morgan about his showbiz pals

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Jesus! He was right in most of what he said?

 

He's a fucking lunatic! Dismissing 11,000 deaths because it lowers the rate of violent crime is fucking ridiculous. These are not the utterings of a sane human being.

 

The point that Morgan (who's also a twat) was trying to make, was that the tyranny of governments will not be restrained by people owning semi-automatic weapons and fucking hand cannons! And if that is the case, then no argument remains about why people should have the right to bear arms.

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Wont be long before he is claiming that all Americans should be allowed to keep a fully operational nuclear submarine in their swimming pools to defend themselves against Obama and Jay Leno.

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Red Phoenix defo walks around with one of these on his head...

 

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No way, the death rays from the moon would go straight through those holes.

 

I had to do it because I was wondering exactly how much of what Jones said was right. It turns out several things are, but there's also several things that are questionable, and when you add in him shouting, talking over Morgan and so on the whole thing clearly turned into a mess.

 

Anyway for those that want to go over/research what was said, from Jones responses :

 

Mao caused 80 million deaths. (this looks quesionable after doing a quick search.)

Government orders 1.6 billion rounds. (see : Department of Homeland Security buys even more hollow point rounds - National Government | Examiner.com )

 

2nd amendment to protect from government tyranny.

Women of India petition to get firearms. (google results full of pages about this debate quoting Alex, not spending ages looking for source.)

FBI stats : 20% crime drop in last 9 years.

Britain : no guns, tripled violent crime.

Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Chavez took the guns from populations.

Prozac, number 1 cause of death - suicide. (he later adds that he means "unnatural" death.)

11,458 gun murders, 74% gang related.

Death from infections in hospitals, 197,000.

"UK violent crime capital of Europe." (Source : UK is violent crime capital of Europe - Telegraph )

 

Piers fled because of hacking scandal.

Piers fired for fake stories, hatchet man for new world order.

Boxing ring request for a fight.

England wants to ban knives.

Semi automatics only used in fraction of crimes.

Semi automatics used at Aurora shooting, said to be biggest mass shooting. (Alex says maybe not so.)

Oregon shopping mall mass shooting weapon - no answer.

Dianne Feinstein wants to disarm all Americans. ( quote : “Dianne Feinstein: “If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States, for an outright ban, picking up [every gun]… Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in.”

 

Source : Obama Dianne Feinstein Democrat Socialists gun control attempts to disarm Americans, Nazi Germany history repeats, Himmler ordinary citizens don’t need guns | Citizen WElls )

 

Alex : "First you register then you confiscate, always done the same."

Weapon used at Sandy Hook : semi automatic, Alex says again low percentage of gun related incidents.

Hitler used semi autos to kill people.

Fast and furious, why does America ship guns to Mexico?

Media hypes what guns were used in shootings.

Governments killed 292 million people in 20th century according to Hawaii study, "Democide." (source : 20th Century Democide )

Statistically where there's more guns there's lower crime.

Highest crime in Bloomberg and controlled areas.

America born on guns and whiskey, true that they're a violent society, but statistically knives kill 3 times more.

Knives, bats, rocks kill many times more.

Why don't you want to talk about the drugs? Because they're half your sponsors? (Piers tries to move on each time this is brought up.)

Number 1 cause of unnatural death is suicide.

"I want to get people off pills that the insert says would make you commit suicide and kill people."

Mexico, gun ban for citizens, highest crime rate in the world. 57,000 dead in last 5 years.

Switzerland lowest crime rate in Europe, UK highest.

If Piers punches him, not his fist but brain.

Police on CNN saying get back going to blow up building 7.

Criminal elements of military industrial complex did 9/11. Same that did Gulf of Tonkin, Operation Gladio mass shootings. CIA don't like what he's saying. Hijackers ordered to be allowed into US, Michael Springmann blew whistle. ( see : September 1987-March 1989: Head US Consular Official Claims He’s Told to Issue Visas to Unqualified Applicants - visibility911.com » Blog Archive » Who Is Michael Springmann? )

English accent starts up, not following the rest.

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Sorry for any typos/mistakes, am tired. Listing all that was mental and didn't have time to fix all of them. (I thought I actually edited "shoootings" but it seems to have reverted or maybe time ran out.)

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Don't be daft - that thing has holes in it.

 

To let the brainwaves out.It's like a faraday cage, shit ain't getting in but you send signals out.

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Ok I use a slightly more advanced model. This one is similar :

 

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But yeah, this conspiracy stuff seriously does fuck with your head after a while. I'm hoping to give it a rest now. Not healthy to do on a regular basis.

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The fucking mong is going on about government conspiracies and shit like that and then uses FBI figures to try and back his argument.

 

*Shakes head*

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Good to see Ben Swann already reporting some facts about Piers Morgan's claims. Not sure if you can get this video to play or not, I couldn't at first but it worked fine once I upgraded flash player : Piers Morgan vs. Alex Jones & the truth about gun homicide rates - FOX19.com-Cincinnati News, Weather & Sports

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