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getting better league results in the second half of the season

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its something we are traditionally good at isnt it

 

any volunteers to tell me how many times in the past 20 years we have got worse league results in the second half of the season than the first half of it ?

 

my guess (and i may well be wrong) is 3, im going with 96/97, 09/10 and 11/12 as the three exceptions to the rule, im just interested to find out if im right or even close, thanks

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I don't know the answer to the question, sorry, but it will be interesting to see how this one pans out. Rodgers will have had more time with the players and presumably we will strengthen in January. On the other hand we have yet to play some of the better teams at their place.

 

Fourth is not beyond us yet. I doubt we will get it, but I am hoping we at least have a good go in the second half of the season.

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I don't know the answer to the question, sorry, but it will be interesting to see how this one pans out. Rodgers will have had more time with the players and presumably we will strengthen in January. On the other hand we have yet to play some of the better teams at their place.

 

Fourth is not beyond us yet. I doubt we will get it, but I am hoping we at least have a good go in the second half of the season.

 

my sentiments exactly

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Last season had a horrendous second half. Only 18 points in the last 19 games. We had almost double that in the first half with 34 points. Actually for half seasons Kenny's point totals were. 33, 34 and 18, which might indicate why FSG lost faith in him.[/QUOTE]

 

hi mate, i dont post on here too often as is obvious from my number of posts, and im not trying to turn this into a fight about if kenny should have stayed on or not, but while few people would contest that 18 points from 19 games is very bad, 67 from 37 under kenny in the calendar year 2011 can only be described as very good. the fact the owners appeared to have told him finish in the top 4 or else and then never backed him last january makes me wonder if they had lost faith in him already or if they were waiting for any excuse to get rid because they didnt particularly want him to begin with. i might be dead wrong but if im right results in the league in the second half of last season gave them that excuse

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So far, Rodgers doesn't strike me as a man who learns from his mistakes-at least not quickly. If we are to do better in the 2nd half of the season, then he'll need to.

 

He seems very open minded IMO.

 

He isn't stubborn and rigid, we've seen that with him trying players in different positions - like Enrique or Downing.

 

I think that way of thinking will mean he will get it right in the end. That's what I hope anyway.

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In the last 10 seasons we have had a better second half of the season 5 times.

 

11/12: 34/18

10/11: 25/33

09/10: 30/33

08/09: 42/44

07/08: 37/39

06/07: 34/34

05/06: 41/41

04/05: 31/27

03/04: 29/31

02/03: 32/32

 

and the 10 seasons before that it happened 4 times.

 

01/02: 37/43

00/01: 33/36

99/00: 34/33

98/99: 28/26

97/98: 34/31

96/97: 38/30

95/96: 34/37

94/95: 39/35

93/94: 32/28

92/93: 29/30

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but thats usually the rule as far as i can work out megadrive man.

 

its the exceptions where we got worse league results in the second half of the season im wondering about mate, and my guess is only 3 of the last 20 years

 

Dont get your hopes up if you ever get the chance to enter Jeopardy.

 

Guessing is not your thing.

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In the last 10 seasons we have had a better second half of the season 5 times.

 

11/12: 34/18

10/11: 25/33

09/10: 30/33

08/09: 42/44

07/08: 37/39

06/07: 34/34

05/06: 41/41

04/05: 31/27

03/04: 29/31

02/03: 32/32

 

and the 10 seasons before that it happened 4 times.

 

01/02: 37/43

00/01: 33/36

99/00: 34/33

98/99: 28/26

97/98: 34/31

96/97: 38/30

95/96: 34/37

94/95: 39/35

93/94: 32/28

92/93: 29/30

 

Absolutely spot on with this code, for the rest of the season we should just field a team made up of various rocks. Winning is obviously not the answer to winning.

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To have matched the first half of the season KK would have needed 15 extra points - the last 19 games included defeats to City, Bolton, United, Arsenal, Sunderland, QPR, Wigan, Newcastle, WBA, Fulham and Swansea. And the unforgettable draws against Villa, Stoke and Spurs. If that 15 points had included a win against Spurs that would have meant 4th place.

 

If Arsenal, Spurs, Everton or WBA win their next game they will have 33 points, and you'd expect one of them to finish 4th. So 33/34 points is a decent launch pad to kick on for 4th, especially when you are not in Europe. If my auntie had balls etc but any manager would have been on very shaky ground with that scale of f-up, not least with the money given to him in the preceding summer.

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In the last 10 seasons we have had a better second half of the season 5 times.

 

11/12: 34/18

10/11: 25/33

09/10: 30/33

08/09: 42/44

07/08: 37/39

06/07: 34/34

05/06: 41/41

04/05: 31/27

03/04: 29/31

02/03: 32/32

 

and the 10 seasons before that it happened 4 times.

 

01/02: 37/43

00/01: 33/36

99/00: 34/33

98/99: 28/26

97/98: 34/31

96/97: 38/30

95/96: 34/37

94/95: 39/35

93/94: 32/28

92/93: 29/30

 

Or you could put it that we have only been worse in the second half of the season just twice in the last 10 years.

 

Statistics eh !

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We have the same chance as Arsenal imo. Everton worry me as they've started well, lets hope they reverse it and have a shocker in 2013. I personally think Spurs are the favourites for 4th, but if we can get a bit of momentum going then there's no reason to write ourselves off.

 

We have some very tough aways in the 2nd half of the season don't forget as we've already hosted both Mancs, Arsenal, Newcastle and the mighty Aston Villa, obviously.

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