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No the stats won't change my opinion on him, I'd attribute Scum's defence for that award, Vidic was amazing back then and unfortunately that cunt Evra was also excellent for a couple of seasons,Ferdinand has always been good with Vidic alongside him and O'Shea had a good season if I recall correctly, yes I did read what you put but I still stand by the fact you don't buy a new keeper if you already have a world class one, you didn't see Chelsea trying to buy Casillas when Cech was world class etc, I just don't and never have rated Van Der Sar as anything above very good

 

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He's been fucking shite this season. The ball seams to go straight through him more often than not and he's so slow to react to the simplest of shots. He's shite on crosses too stays on his line when he should be claiming. he's been a great servant over the years and i love the guy , but he's probably cost us close to 20 points in the past two seasons. He needs to be replaced in the summer.

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I've been reading the "ingnominious end to an unfulfilled Rein" piece in the fanzine and reflecting on Reina's time here.

 

I think there's no doubt that he was peerless for a few seasons, then things went off the boil.  There have already been too many arguments about the timing, the extent and reasons for his decline.  I've certainly no wish to reignite anything like that.  It's just that (from the comfortable perspective of having a strong current squad that's going places) it's shocking to think what Reina and Carra went through.  One day you're playing with Aurelio, Hyypia, Arbeloa and Mascherano.  Before you know it, these have been replaced by Konchesky, Kyrgiakos, Johnson and Spearing.

 

Thinking of that just makes me appreciate what we've got today so much more.

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I've been reading the "ingnominious end to an unfulfilled Rein" piece in the fanzine and reflecting on Reina's time here.

 

I think there's no doubt that he was peerless for a few seasons, then things went off the boil.  There have already been too many arguments about the timing, the extent and reasons for his decline.  I've certainly no wish to reignite anything like that.  It's just that (from the comfortable perspective of having a strong current squad that's going places) it's shocking to think what Reina and Carra went through.  One day you're playing with Aurelio, Hyypia, Arbeloa and Mascherano.  Before you know it, these have been replaced by Konchesky, Kyrgiakos, Johnson and Spearing.

 

Thinking of that just makes me appreciate what we've got today so much more.

 

For me i think thats where he lost his appetite for the game. He was great friends with Rafa and he knew we were selling star quality and replacing them with cheap duds.

The legacy of the two americans is finally wiped away, but its a shame we lost very good players a very good manager and very nearly the club whilst fighting them.

The breath of fresh air the new owners and new manager have brought in, makes you forget how bad we were run.

If you look at the money we have had to spend this summer, and think whilst we were reaching european cup finals we werent spending half as much, it shows how badly we were being run.

I Loved Pepe but a break was best for all concerned, i hope he enjoys the rest of his career. Top bloke.

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I've been reading the "ingnominious end to an unfulfilled Rein" piece in the fanzine and reflecting on Reina's time here.

 

I think there's no doubt that he was peerless for a few seasons, then things went off the boil.  There have already been too many arguments about the timing, the extent and reasons for his decline.  I've certainly no wish to reignite anything like that.  It's just that (from the comfortable perspective of having a strong current squad that's going places) it's shocking to think what Reina and Carra went through.  One day you're playing with Aurelio, Hyypia, Arbeloa and Mascherano.  Before you know it, these have been replaced by Konchesky, Kyrgiakos, Johnson and Spearing.

 

Thinking of that just makes me appreciate what we've got today so much more.

 

 

That's a great point.  Since 2005-2006, we have had a particularly bad time (by our standards) time of it, with only a League Cup to sustain us.  Not necessarily the personnel (though some of them have been shite), but rather the lack of achievement.  Having said that, until we do win something, this will still be regarded as an unsuccessful period.  That's the price we pay or being so fucking brilliant in the 70s and 80s.  

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That's a great point. Since 2005-2006, we have had a particularly bad time (by our standards) time of it, with only a League Cup to sustain us. Not necessarily the personnel (though some of them have been shite), but rather the lack of achievement. Having said that, until we do win something, this will still be regarded as an unsuccessful period. That's the price we pay or being so fucking brilliant in the 70s and 80s.

although in 2007-2008 we were ranked no 1 in europe which meant we had been consistently successful in the champions league without necessarily having to win it year after year.

 

I d rank that higher than winning a league cup.

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although in 2007-2008 we were ranked no 1 in europe which meant we had been consistently successful in the champions league without necessarily having to win it year after year.

 

I d rank that higher than winning a league cup.

 

OK.  I wouldn't though.  I follow Liverpool to see them win things.  All very nice to be high in the rankings, but it means nothing in terms of successes.  

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I've been reading the "ingnominious end to an unfulfilled Rein" piece in the fanzine and reflecting on Reina's time here.

 

I think there's no doubt that he was peerless for a few seasons, then things went off the boil.  There have already been too many arguments about the timing, the extent and reasons for his decline.  I've certainly no wish to reignite anything like that.  It's just that (from the comfortable perspective of having a strong current squad that's going places) it's shocking to think what Reina and Carra went through.  One day you're playing with Aurelio, Hyypia, Arbeloa and Mascherano.  Before you know it, these have been replaced by Konchesky, Kyrgiakos, Johnson and Spearing.

 

Thinking of that just makes me appreciate what we've got today so much more.

Surprised you still buy the fanzine.

 

It got too commercial for my taste.

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Dennis, this is where Reina suggested that he would like to return to Barcelona as first option.

 

http://pepereina25.com/en/2013/07/29/carta-de-despedida-para-los-aficionados-del-liverpool-gracias-por-todo-os-vere-pronto/

 

Goodbye letter for Liverpool’s fans: “Thanks for everything, I will see you soon”

 

It is a strange feeling for me to think that next season I will not be a Liverpool player. For the past eight years, that is all I have known. The club, the staff, the city, the people and the supporters have played a massive part in my life. Liverpool is special in a way that only those who are lucky enough to experience the club close up can understand. It has given me memories that will live with me forever and friendships that will last just as long.

 

But more than anything else, it has given me an understanding of what it is like to play for the most wonderful English club. I may not have won as many trophies and medals as I would have liked since joining in 2005 but the experiences I have been a part of are as important as any silverware. I now understand how supporters can lift a team and inspire them to do special things. I appreciate that there is something unique about Anfield and the atmosphere it creates. I believe that anything is possible no matter what the situation is because at Liverpool there is no such thing as a lost cause. And I have been humbled by the fight for justice for the 96 which showed me that the Liverpool people will always fight for what they believe in.

 

I know that I have been blessed to be part of a Club like that and I hope that in return I have always given my best and represented Liverpool in the right way. There have been good times and bad times but no matter what the situation has been I hope that my passion has been clear. I have been asked what my favourite Liverpool moment was and if I had to pick one it wouldn’t be a save or winning a trophy. It would be my celebration against Manchester United when David Ngog scored a late goal. That is probably the quickest I have ever run in my life! It shows what playing for Liverpool meant to me and also that there was nothing better than winning a big game at Anfield. I used to look at the Kop when we scored those kind of goals in big games and I would be jealous of the supporters going crazy. If the closest I will get to that is running the length of the pitch and jumping on my team mates backs then that will do for me.

 

Obviously, I won’t be able to do that next season but I hope that the supporters and my team mates will be able to enjoy many more moments like that. They deserve the best of times and it would give me so much pleasure to see Liverpool back where they belong, challenging for trophies and getting back into the top four. That was where the club was when I first arrived and although I am leaving a different club, one with new owners, a new manager, new players and new challenges, I honestly believe that Liverpool can reach those levels again.

 

I am disappointed that I will not be part of that and although it was not my decision to leave I will accept it just like I have always accepted any decision that Liverpool have taken for me. They signed me, picked me, gave me some of the best experiences of my life and looked after me. If they feel that the best thing for me and for them is for me to go on loan to Napoli for a season then so be it. Napoli is a new challenge for me and I know that the fans are just as passionate about their team as the Liverpool fans, so I am really looking forward to playing for them this season and I will give my all.

 

But if I have one regret, it is the way that I am leaving. It is only natural that I would be disappointed that the Liverpool management agreed to loan me to Napoli without telling me first, I thought that I deserved better than that even though I understand that difficult decisions have to be taken in football. A lot has been made about me informing the club that if an offer came in from Barcelona that I would have liked them to consider it. But I had also spoken to the club about the possibility of extending my contract if the offer was not made. I told the manager that I wanted to play for Liverpool and that Barcelona would only become an option for me if the opportunity arrived, like the rumours said it would, as it would be a chance for me to go back home. When it didn’t come I was happy to fight for my place so I was surprised that Liverpool decided it was in the club´s interests to send me to Napoli instead.

 

None of this will change my feelings for the club or the people in any way and now I have to look forward to a new challenge with Rafa Benitez, who I consider to be the best manager I have worked with, and I am fortunate to be going from one great club to another. Napoli remind me in many ways of the Liverpool I found in 2005, in all the affection they have shown me on my arrival, in having an ambitious project, even in coinciding and working with Benitez again…This memory which in part unites me with you, makes me happy and feel very motivated to begin this new project.

This is my chance to say thank you to everyone for everything that you have given to me and to my family. My children consider Liverpool to be their home and hopefully their love for the city and also for the club will only grow while we are away. I would have liked to have been able to say goodbye in a different way but because of the way the move came about this was not possible.

 

Maybe in the near future I can do it properly so that I can show my appreciation to you but all I would ask now is that you keep on inspiring the manager and the players just like you always have done and help Liverpool to become the club that you deserve once again. I would like nothing better than to come back at the end of my year away and for Liverpool to be back where they belong.

 

Thank you for everything. Good luck. I will see you soon.

 

Pepe Reina.

 

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The Barca thing came after it became clear the owners and manager wanted to replace him.

Even if it hadn't the hypocrisy of holding it over him as some sort of sword of damocles is astounding.

Where's the snide contempt for Suarez - Madrid, Arsenal, Barca. Skrtel - City. Agger - City, Barca. Gerrard - Chelsea X 2.

 

It's just fucking bullshit used to justify a quite ludicrous decision to replace him with Mignolet.

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You're confusing the timeline and missing some important facts out.

 

He'd told the club he wanted to leave is an offer came from barcelona but would stay if there wasnt well before that letter was published. In other words, he wanted to play both options.

 

In his letter, he effectively said he didnt rate rodgers with his comments about benitez. Now he's entitled to say that but dont be surprised if you piss your current boss off while doing so.

 

There's a massive difference in my opinion from a player saying he wants to leave and being talked into staying.

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You're confusing the timeline and missing some important facts out.

 

He'd told the club he wanted to leave is an offer came from barcelona but would stay if there wasnt well before that letter was published. In other words, he wanted to play both options.

 

In his letter, he effectively said he didnt rate rodgers with his comments about benitez. Now he's entitled to say that but dont be surprised if you piss your current boss off while doing so.

 

There's a massive difference in my opinion from a player saying he wants to leave and being talked into staying.

No theres not a massive difference you are bang wrong and default on your argument with poor reasoning skills on this issue.

You bend over backwards to justify rodgers and the club but reality kicks all your "Im sure theres a perfectly rational reason for all this that can absolve blame" agenda into a clump of nettles.

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You're clearly going cold turkey. There is a difference, you just refuse to recognise it.

 

Bend over backwards to justify rodgers? Perhaps but no more than Ive done for Ged, Benitez and the King. Pardon me for trying to be positive and get behind the club.

 

Oh, that makes me some kind of 'super fan' to you and a few others doesnt it? Yeah whatever.

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You're clearly going cold turkey. There is a difference, you just refuse to recognise it.

 

Bend over backwards to justify rodgers? Perhaps but no more than Ive done for Ged, Benitez and the King. Pardon me for trying to be positive and get behind the club.

 

Oh, that makes me some kind of 'super fan' to you and a few others doesnt it? Yeah whatever.

No makes you part of the problem and should stop posting till you have sloshed that fact round with a brew and let it sink in.

The other managers won a lot of things.

 

 

Otherwise me and tha boyz will have whipround for a tiny tears doll we can put an lfc badge on it and give you some pom poms?

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