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33 minutes ago, elvis said:

Thanks mate , difficult to see the wood for the trees right now. I've finally got a full time job after years of self employment, so that's the one positive at the moment. We had a holiday booked for us and 2 daughters, was really looking forward to that as well as my youngest being home from uni for the summer. It's a real pisser 


You’ve been dealt a shitty hand mate. It’ll pass 

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On 10/05/2024 at 23:06, Aventus said:

Just need to decide if your mental health is more important than the potential side effects.

 

Some of which can be permanent, like Anhedonia, or various sexual dysfunctions. 

 

 


Is this true?

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10 hours ago, Champ said:


Is this true?

Yeah, do a search for post SSRI sexual dysfunction, or PSSD. 

 

It's not that uncommon for people to have side effects years after stopping the meds. 

 

I'm not a doctor, and I don't want to put anyone off taking medication if it can improve their lives, but it's worth at least knowing what you could be letting yourself in for before making any decisions. 

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57 minutes ago, Lurtz said:

This thread fucking breaks me. Some really difficult reads on here, much of it too close to home for comfort. 


Which is also why it’s such an important thread, difficult though it sometimes is to read.

 

It’s somewhere to go, where we see we’re not alone. Where everyone knows our username (sorry).

 

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6 hours ago, Elite said:

Think it's well known that they delay orgasm. That's why doctors prescribe them to the 'two pumps and a squirt' brigade.

I know the potential side effects when you’re taking them but I’ve never heard of them being permanent 

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On 15/05/2024 at 11:08, elvis said:

How long did you stay on the beta blockers ? I was prescribed propanol a few years ago  seem to remember them helping a bit. I'm going through an impending divorce/separation that's been brewing for years , and the thought of having to sell the house and go it alone is filling me with dread.

They'll reduce the physical symptoms of anxiety but they do nothing to stop the thoughts etc. They're primarily to control an increased heart rate and blood pressure to an extent but they can be prescribed for anxiety to reduce things like racing heart etc.

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On 10/05/2024 at 23:06, Aventus said:

Just need to decide if your mental health is more important than the potential side effects.

 

Some of which can be permanent, like Anhedonia, or various sexual dysfunctions. 

 

 

 If you need medication to function then your mental health won't be much at all if you don't take them. In terms of side effects unfortunately it's a case of trial-and-error as we'll all experience different effects from medication.

 

BTW I've never taken SSRIs etc but everyone's an individual case so we can't make sweeping statements around medication, people just have to spin the wheel until one day we can better predict someone's response to a given drug.

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8 hours ago, Aventus said:

Yeah, do a search for post SSRI sexual dysfunction, or PSSD. 

 

It's not that uncommon for people to have side effects years after stopping the meds. 

 

I'm not a doctor, and I don't want to put anyone off taking medication if it can improve their lives, but it's worth at least knowing what you could be letting yourself in for before making any decisions. 

You're not wrong tbf as those are common for SSRIs and such but it's so hard to predict how any one person will react. For example I take a stimulant daily and common sides include appetite reduction but if anything I eat more on them because I have the energy to cook etc. I will say that although I eat more I also eat better and don't snack to dopamine seek etc.

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6 hours ago, Elite said:

Think it's well known that they delay orgasm. That's why doctors prescribe them to the 'two pumps and a squirt' brigade.

Yeah, the issue is after stopping them. Erection problems, and premature ejaculation, weak orgasms, although it can also cause you to have little to no sex drive so I suppose you might not need to worry about the other issues if you get that one too. 

 

8 minutes ago, TheSire said:

You're not wrong tbf as those are common for SSRIs and such but it's so hard to predict how any one person will react. For example I take a stimulant daily and common sides include appetite reduction but if anything I eat more on them because I have the energy to cook etc. I will say that although I eat more I also eat better and don't snack to dopamine seek etc.

Yeah it's impossible to predict when it's not something visible, you're just shooting at your brain chemistry in the dark and hoping that you've found something that works. 

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Just need to vent.

 

Down again, bored shitless, managed to upset the missus again.

 

Feel like I need a drink or two to relax these days. Don't get me wrong I'm not turkeying for a drink all day every day, but I just know I feel better about things if I have a pint or two.

 

Things haven't improve with the kids, still haven't managed to get my parents house on the market but at least that should be sorted soon.

 

Thing is, I just don't feel there's anything to look forward to as usual. I shouldn't moan as when the folks house sells I'll be able to pay off my mortgage and car loan, and even have some rainy day money.

 

But I just don't see the point of it, any of it.

 

I could quite happily end here (putting my fear of death aside), as I just can't see the point in carrying on. I mean, why fucking bother.

 

My missus tolerates me at best (I don't blame her), my kids can't fucking stand me, the rest of my family probably couldn't give two shits either way, and I hardly see my mates.

 

I even piss everybody on here off.

 

I'm droning now.

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10 hours ago, Creator Supreme said:

Just need to vent.

 

Down again, bored shitless, managed to upset the missus again.

 

Feel like I need a drink or two to relax these days. Don't get me wrong I'm not turkeying for a drink all day every day, but I just know I feel better about things if I have a pint or two.

 

Things haven't improve with the kids, still haven't managed to get my parents house on the market but at least that should be sorted soon.

 

Thing is, I just don't feel there's anything to look forward to as usual. I shouldn't moan as when the folks house sells I'll be able to pay off my mortgage and car loan, and even have some rainy day money.

 

But I just don't see the point of it, any of it.

 

I could quite happily end here (putting my fear of death aside), as I just can't see the point in carrying on. I mean, why fucking bother.

 

My missus tolerates me at best (I don't blame her), my kids can't fucking stand me, the rest of my family probably couldn't give two shits either way, and I hardly see my mates.

 

I even piss everybody on here off.

 

I'm droning now.


Glad you have a place to vent mate. It needs to go somewhere. Always better out than in.

 

Little steps!

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Have you seen your doctor again at all? Hopefully not as useless as mine.

 

I remember reading a quote that sometimes we see things the way we are not the way they are. 

So you may see your kids as hating you but if something was to happen to you tomorrow they'd be devastated. You're a good man who's had a positive impact on people.

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59 minutes ago, YorkshireRed said:


Glad you have a place to vent mate. It needs to go somewhere. Always better out than in.

 

Little steps!

Cheers mate.

 

50 minutes ago, littletedwest said:

Have you seen your doctor again at all? Hopefully not as useless as mine.

 

I remember reading a quote that sometimes we see things the way we are not the way they are. 

So you may see your kids as hating you but if something was to happen to you tomorrow they'd be devastated. You're a good man who's had a positive impact on people.

No mate, not been back the doctors and I have no plans to. I'm a drain on valuable NHS resources as the torycunts would put it.

 

Not sure the kids are arsed either way, the wife neither.

 

I think I'll pay the mortgage off and the car, then take a jump off somewhere high. I've given them somewhere to live and a car to drive. The rest will be up to them.

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Come on now, get a grip, you've got loads to live for. Soon to be mortgage free, all that money better off each month. Treat yourself.

 

You haven't managed to piss me off yet, loads have but not you. Plenty to work towards there.

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It’s my dad’s funeral on Friday. I’m carrying him in and doing the eulogy. I don’t wanna do it, even though I know I’ll be pleased afterwards that I did. It’s thoughtful, it’s funny, it’s heartfelt. It may be the best thing I’ve ever written. I’m still shit scared of reading it out in front of a packed church though. 
 

Dunno about depression but this shit has been on my mind constantly for weeks. I just want it out of the way now. I know that when I drive home on Saturday/Sunday a massive weight will be lifted off my shoulders. Physically and metaphorically. 

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7 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

It’s my dad’s funeral on Friday. I’m carrying him in and doing the eulogy. I don’t wanna do it, even though I know I’ll be pleased afterwards that I did. It’s thoughtful, it’s funny, it’s heartfelt. It may be the best thing I’ve ever written. I’m still shit scared of reading it out in a packed church though. 
 

Dunno about depression but this shit has been on my mind constantly for weeks. I just want it out of the way now. I know that when I drive home on Saturday/Sunday a massive weight will be lifted off my shoulders. Physically and metaphorically. 

I've never done a eulogy (Public Speaking is anathema to me), so good on you for doing it. I hope that it does lift a weight off your shoulders.

 

I did carry my dad and my mum, and it did help. I always feel honoured when asked to be a pallbearer, but when it came to mum and dad there was no doubt I was doing it.

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55 minutes ago, A Red said:

Come on now, get a grip, you've got loads to live for. Soon to be mortgage free, all that money better off each month. Treat yourself.

 

You haven't managed to piss me off yet, loads have but not you. Plenty to work towards there.

I'll get there if I'm round long enough.

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1 hour ago, Captain Turdseye said:

It’s my dad’s funeral on Friday. I’m carrying him in and doing the eulogy. I don’t wanna do it, even though I know I’ll be pleased afterwards that I did. It’s thoughtful, it’s funny, it’s heartfelt. It may be the best thing I’ve ever written. I’m still shit scared of reading it out in front of a packed church though. 
 

Dunno about depression but this shit has been on my mind constantly for weeks. I just want it out of the way now. I know that when I drive home on Saturday/Sunday a massive weight will be lifted off my shoulders. Physically and metaphorically. 


Sorry for your loss. You’ll find a way to do your Dad justice.
 

I suspect you always find a way in life. You’ll do so here as well, however difficult it might seem. 
 

If those words are as you describe, that’s all that matters. You’re allowed to be nervous, scared even. You will come across as human and that will make your words even more powerful. Use your feelings and emotions, don’t let them control you. 
 

Unlike most things I bang on about, I do have a bit of experience in this area. As a raging introvert, public speaking causes me great anxiety. However, I essentially do it for a living these days, and some people even pay me to help them get better at it. 


Some practical tips…

 

1. Have water near by.

2. Find a friendly face in the audience and use that as your North Star. Don’t stare at them the whole time, but come back to them for the reassurance they provide.

3. If you have notes, try not to hold them if your hands are shaking. Find something to rest them on.

4. If you get stuck, take a breath. Most people will be supportive. They’re just glad it’s you up there, and not them. 
 

As you say yourself, you’ll be glad you did it once it’s over. Sometimes the hardest things we have to do are the most important. 
 

You’ve got this!
 

 

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1 hour ago, Creator Supreme said:

I'll get there if I'm round long 

I lost a ton of money when we had a pub and used to think, how can people get depressed? If they could seen my problems etc.

Then i had work related problems and got it, eating away at my yhoughts every minute of the day. 

Happened to watch the documentary 'the girl with 90% burns' put into perspective how to cope with adversity.

You can get through this mate. Keep fighting.

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6 minutes ago, DalyanPete said:

I lost a ton of money when we had a pub and used to think, how can people get depressed? If they could seen my problems etc.

Then i had work related problems and got it, eating away at my yhoughts every minute of the day. 

Happened to watch the documentary 'the girl with 90% burns' put into perspective how to cope with adversity.

You can get through this mate. Keep fighting.

Not sure I want to, wife still snarling at me.

 

Not sure how many more times I can be arsed saying sorry.

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