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1 minute ago, Captain Turdseye said:


I saw my regular GP a couple of weeks before I was diagnosed with MS and her advice to me was to take up jogging. Absolutely mental. It’s hard to take them seriously after something like that and I’m lucky that I’ve got specialists waiting on the end of the phone if I’ve got questions or anything. 
 

@3 Stacks You’re a cool dude. I genuinely hope you find some solution to your problems but I’d appreciate it if you keep playing your game on here in the meantime. It doesn’t go unnoticed. 

Thanks, brother. You're alright as well.

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4 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

I don't know what Canadian healthcare is like but can't you call and ask for a chat with a GP and insist on being properly referred? 

 

Don't google asking what this lump is, go and see someone then insist and insist and so on. 

I have a family physician, so essentially I always see the same Doctor. I don't know if it's like that as well in the UK, but it's quite hard to get second opinions from other GP's where I am because everyone of them have their own regular patients and they basically just treat those people. I could switch Doctors but it's a whole process. What I have to do is essentially convince the Doctor I already have to get me a test, and I've failed in doing that.

 

And I've googled everything under the sun in the past 4 years, man, it's too late for that.

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7 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

 

@3 Stacks You’re a cunt dude. I genuinely hope you find some solution to your problems but I’d appreciate it if you keep playing your game on here in the meantime. It doesn’t go unnoticed. 

 

6 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Thanks, brother. You're a cunt as well.

I respect you guys honesty.

 

Love and peace.

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13 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

I have a family physician, so essentially I always see the same Doctor. I don't know if it's like that as well in the UK, but it's quite hard to get second opinions from other GP's where I am because everyone of them have their own regular patients and they basically just treat those people. I could switch Doctors but it's a whole process. What I have to do is essentially convince the Doctor I already have to get me a test, and I've failed in doing that.

 

And I've googled everything under the sun in the past 4 years, man, it's too late for that.

Come on fella, surely you have other options. What town do you live in? I'm sure I can find you 5 numbers with a quick google search who will listen and work with you. 

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25 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:


I saw my regular GP a couple of weeks before I was diagnosed with MS and her advice to me was to take up jogging. Absolutely mental. It’s hard to take them seriously after something like that and I’m lucky that I’ve got specialists waiting on the end of the phone if I’ve got questions or anything. 
 

@3 Stacks You’re a cool dude. I genuinely hope you find some solution to your problems but I’d appreciate it if you keep playing your game on here in the meantime. It doesn’t go unnoticed. 

Lazy pig, bit of Jogging could have shaken it off and here you are crying the blues

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1 hour ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

In my experience, you just have to make yourself such a pain in the arse that they're forced to try and pass you onto someone else who may stop you coming back to them.

100% this.

 

I have Psoriasis, and it took me ages to get referred to an actual Dermatologist.  

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9 hours ago, MegadriveMan said:

100% this.

 

I have Psoriasis, and it took me ages to get referred to an actual Dermatologist.  

Yeah, you just have to keep mithering and asking for tests, eventually they'll relent but you need to be assertive and look the fuckers dead in the eye. 

 

"I want my MRI, bitch!"

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1 hour ago, Elite said:

Yeah, you just have to keep mithering and asking for tests, eventually they'll relent but you need to be assertive and look the fuckers dead in the eye. 

 

"I want my MRI, bitch!"

It took almost 3 years of getting fucked about and passed from pillar to post before I paid to see a Neurologist privately to get my diagnosis. 

He then made me an appointment at the Walton Centre to see him on the NHS a week later and bumped me up the list for an MRI.

 

3 fucking years.

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I’ve been on and off anti depressants for many years, tried most other recommended treatments/therapies at one time or another. I’m basically a fuck up, some of it genetic, much of it due to poor lifestyle choices (which if I was looking for excuses may still be down to genetics).

 

Anyway, I went swimming in a lake on Friday. Being out in the water, with the coldish water covering my head, was the single best thing I’ve done for my own self care in a long time. 
 

Exercise, peace and quiet, nice surroundings and this alien feeling, I believe they call contentment. 
 

Be kind to your mind. 

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To be fair you cant expect GP's to be knowledgeable on all aspects of health, but you should expect them to know where to refer you to.

 

As others have said, keep on at them and they will eventually, hopefully, relent. 

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39 minutes ago, A Red said:

To be fair you cant expect GP's to be knowledgeable on all aspects of health, but you should expect them to know where to refer you to.

 

As others have said, keep on at them and they will eventually, hopefully, relent. 

No you can't, and to be fair I couldn't fault my GP at the time. The waiting times to see Consultants really were ridiculous and have only got worse since. He wasn't to blame for that.

 

My symptoms were very varied and while very bad at first point of contact, they had the habit of easing off and then something else would happen and that would eventually ease off over weeks/months and so on, so a difficult thing to diagnose if it wasn't specifically their field.

 

 

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Dr's are people at the end of the day. They're highly trained and generally highly intelligent but it's a stressful fucking intense job that they do.

Some are very good, some not so good and quite a few burnt out. They suffer from the same things that the rest of us do and they have good days and bad days like we all do.

As others have said, if you're not happy with your service you make a nuisance of yourself until you get what you're after

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17 minutes ago, mattyq said:

Dr's are people at the end of the day. They're highly trained and generally highly intelligent but it's a stressful fucking intense job that they do.

My dad was a GP. You are one hundred percent correct about this. Yes, they are well paid and have more holiday than most but all the ones I knew when I was growing up, more than earned it. The more they give a shit, the harder it is. 
 

Imagine working seriously long hours, often having to deal with ‘difficult, demanding, people’ then being pestered in the pub, restaurant, supermarket, street even by people who expect on the spot consultations. My dad would never say no either, he was too soft. Fucked him up though. 
 

We’d even have people phoning the house 24/7 to speak to him direct, instead of making an appointment at the surgery. Again my dad was too soft to make his home number ex directory. My mum was tougher than him though, so dealt with that mostly. If he answered the phone, it wasn’t uncommon for him to spend twenty minutes on a call with a cheeky fucker, sometimes even going out to visit them. 
 

He was far from perfect, flawed in many ways, but he was a good doctor and basically a good man. His life ended at seventy one, in part due to acknowledged mistakes made by stressed, overworked, burned out NHS employees. 
 

Just some good for thought. Of course you should be assertive (not aggressive) and sometimes you do have to ask, but remember, most of them are genuinely trying their best in challenging circumstances. 
 

Don’t be too critical until you’ve walked a mile in their shoes. 

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On 17/07/2021 at 23:23, Captain Turdseye said:


I saw my regular GP a couple of weeks before I was diagnosed with MS and her advice to me was to take up jogging. Absolutely mental. It’s hard to take them seriously after something like that and I’m lucky that I’ve got specialists waiting on the end of the phone if I’ve got questions or anything. 


My missus is slipping again with her mental health (just in time for the summer hols. Whoop-de-doo) right on the edge of a nervous breakdown. For once she’s seen it herself early and taken it upon herself to try and speak to a doctor before it gets worse. So she’s waited all day for a call back, only for this same GP to be the lucky sumbitch. Mrs Turdseye then poured her heart out about feeling worthless and unable get out of bed, let alone care for her partner and kids. 
 

“Have you considered voluntary work?”

 

Ah. Fuck did you have to go and say that for? I swear next time I speak to that doctor I’m going to ask “Have you considered the DWP?”

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8 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:


My missus is slipping again with her mental health (just in time for the summer hols. Whoop-de-doo) right on the edge of a nervous breakdown. For once she’s seen it herself early and taken it upon herself to try and speak to a doctor before it gets worse. So she’s waited all day for a call back, only for this same GP to be the lucky sumbitch. Mrs Turdseye then poured her heart out about feeling worthless and unable get out of bed, let alone care for her partner and kids. 
 

“Have you considered voluntary work?”

 

Ah. Fuck did you have to go and say that for? I swear next time I speak to that doctor I’m going to ask “Have you considered the DWP?”

 

Shite. Where abouts do you live mate? Are there any local charities that offer advice and counselling? 

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27 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

 

Shite. Where abouts do you live mate? Are there any local charities that offer advice and counselling? 


West Suffolk mate. Just outside Cambridge. She’s been forwarded to the mental health team again on Friday, which will only be a phone call/change of meds I’d imagine, given the Covid stuff. There was just no need for the doctor to say that. Totally out of her depth misreading the ongoing situation. A temp GP would have handled it better. Then to add further insult she’s been dishonest about the how the conversation went in the consultation notes that go online straight away. The GP should have just referred her to the MH team straight off the bat instead of being a prick about it. 
 

Back to square one I guess. Well, maybe square two or three. Square one was grim. 
 

It’s a horrible little circle we’re in. She worries about me which undoubtedly makes her mental health worse. As a consequence I put pressure on myself to hide as much as I can from her and take most of the burden, which every so often leads to me burning myself out. Both of us are aware of all this, we’ve talked about it, but still round and round we go. 

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13 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:


West Suffolk mate. Just outside Cambridge. She’s been forwarded to the mental health team again on Friday, which will only be a phone call/change of meds I’d imagine, given the Covid stuff. There was just no need for the doctor to say that. Totally out of her depth misreading the ongoing situation. A temp GP would have handled it better. Then to add further insult she’s been dishonest about the how the conversation went in the consultation notes that go online straight away. The GP should have just referred her to the MH team straight off the bat instead of being a prick about it. 
 

Back to square one I guess. Well, maybe square two or three. Square one was grim. 
 

It’s a horrible little circle we’re in. She worries about me which undoubtedly makes her mental health worse. As a consequence I put pressure on myself to hide as much as I can from her and take most of the burden, which every so often leads to me burning myself out. Both of us are aware of all this, we’ve talked about it, but still round and round we go. 

Yeah it's slim pickings when it comes to getting help from GPs, 'have you tried exercise?' is always a favourite. 

 

 

Dunno if these are any good mate. Might signpost you to someone.

 

https://www.suffolkuserforum.co.uk/

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Just now, Section_31 said:

Yeah it's slim pickings when it comes to getting help from GPs, 'have you tried exercise?' is always a favourite. 

 

 

Dunno if these are any good mate. Might signpost you to someone.

 

https://www.suffolkuserforum.co.uk/


I’ll have a gander at that when I’m finished on the JFK thread. Nice one, mert. 

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On 18/07/2021 at 13:34, YorkshireRed said:

My dad was a GP. You are one hundred percent correct about this. Yes, they are well paid and have more holiday than most but all the ones I knew when I was growing up, more than earned it. The more they give a shit, the harder it is. 
 

Imagine working seriously long hours, often having to deal with ‘difficult, demanding, people’ then being pestered in the pub, restaurant, supermarket, street even by people who expect on the spot consultations. My dad would never say no either, he was too soft. Fucked him up though. 
 

We’d even have people phoning the house 24/7 to speak to him direct, instead of making an appointment at the surgery. Again my dad was too soft to make his home number ex directory. My mum was tougher than him though, so dealt with that mostly. If he answered the phone, it wasn’t uncommon for him to spend twenty minutes on a call with a cheeky fucker, sometimes even going out to visit them. 
 

He was far from perfect, flawed in many ways, but he was a good doctor and basically a good man. His life ended at seventy one, in part due to acknowledged mistakes made by stressed, overworked, burned out NHS employees. 
 

Just some good for thought. Of course you should be assertive (not aggressive) and sometimes you do have to ask, but remember, most of them are genuinely trying their best in challenging circumstances. 
 

Don’t be too critical until you’ve walked a mile in their shoes. 

 

I had the same GP from the age of about 5 or 6 years old until I moved down South when I was about 25 or so. He retired while I was away and I hadn't been to the local GP's until about 4 years ago (I'm 41 now), I always knew my old GP was really good, but dealing with the new lot by comparison really pushed just how lucky we had been to have the old one.

 

Before I finished school I had some really severe knee injuries through playing rugby and when they got my x-rays back when I finally started getting them looked at he was totally straight, something like "your left knee is just wear and tear and will repair, your right is fucked" and I used to have really bad issues swallowing tablets when I was younger and he'd always give me "do you want grown up tablets or do you still want baby medicine" and would kid with me about it. 

 

He was fucking brilliant and when I had my first ever full blown depressive episode in my early twenties fought like hell to help me and protect me as much as he could. Work were giving me shit about how I had to go back and that my sicknote wasn't valid and all sorts of stuff and he was always steadfast "you're not OK to go back until I say you are I don't care what they say". This was while at the same time the council occupational health guy reckoned me being suicidal was nothing and that I just needed to get back to work.


He so clearly actually gave a shit and went out of his way to help people as much as he could. 

 

He retired while I was living down South, but I was told that a few years after he retired he killed himself which really bothered me as I really thought that probably a lot of his efforts with me when I had that first big depressive episode were because he knew exactly what I was going through.

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1 hour ago, Chairman Meow said:

I really thought that probably a lot of his efforts with me when I had that first big depressive episode were because he knew exactly what I was going through.

Quite possibly. I’d never dismiss those who have the certificates to support those with problems in this area, but I think there’s a lot to be said for having personal experience of something that’s at least ‘in the ball park’.
 

They seem to see you and you see them. A very powerful thing. 

 

I’m glad you got the help you needed, when you needed it, so many don’t. Your GP was a hero in my eyes and I’m sorry to read that he felt he had to take his own life in the end. 
 

Stay well. 

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Like a constant battle at times.

Had a rare club night out on sat with a couple of class a's.

Fucking hell, as if that comedown on sun wasnt bad enough felt borderline suicidal since.

Gonna get my arse to the gym tonight for the first time this week tonight, to see if that will help.

Fuck knows what was in them.

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