Depression

[lifetime fan]

I’m was spending 36 hours awake regularly, I couldn’t focus on simple tasks, I couldn't sleep even if I wanted to. A lot of the time I didn’t even want to and wouldn’t have been awake for anything. 

[Champ]

2 hours ago, lifetime fan said:

 

It was making me more on edge, more lethargic, more lazy, less interested in anything. 

I was asking if you'd gone back to your GP?

[lifetime fan]

34 minutes ago, Champ said:

I was asking if you'd gone back to your GP?

 

No I hadn’t. I thought that would have been obvious. 

[Champ]

You’re not very good at this are you?

[Captain Turdseye]

How long will it be until we’re all ‘plugged in’ and governments can decide if people are depressed or just right miserable cunts?

 

 

 

 

Sounds like an episode of Black Mirror. 

[Hades]

You need something to work towards that affects your environment and status and you need someone or group of people to look down upon to alleviate feelings of inferiority. Without these things you will get depressed. That's what I've learnt from over a decade of therapy. Saved you all a load of money.

[Guest]

21 minutes ago, Hades said:

You need something to work towards that affects your environment and status and you need someone or group of people to look down upon to alleviate feelings of inferiority. Without these things you will get depressed. That's what I've learnt from over a decade of therapy. Saved you all a load of money.

Was the name of your therapist Adolf? 

[Hades]

30 minutes ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

Was the name of your therapist Adolf? 

Most mentally ill person has too much empathy and most "healthy" people have little empathy. Evil psychological coping mechanisms are the only way we can survive reality, hence reality is evil.

[Elite]

6 minutes ago, Hades said:

Most mentally ill person has too much empathy and most "healthy" people have little empathy. Evil psychological coping mechanisms are the only way we can survive reality, hence reality is evil.

I don't agree with the extremes but I do get your point. Most people are cunts, just drive around town, or go on a night out you'll see fucking loads. It's the same in the workplace, you get on better by being a cunt.

[Chip Butty]

Chuck'em in the loony bin.

 

 

 

 

Am I doing it right?

 

 

 

[Hades]

1 hour ago, Chip Butty said:

Chuck'em in the loony bin.

 

 

 

 

Am I doing it right?

 

 

 

Australia?

[Pidge]

2 hours ago, Elite said:

I don't agree with the extremes but I do get your point. Most people are cunts, just drive around town, or go on a night out you'll see fucking loads. It's the same in the workplace, you get on better by being a cunt. 

You get on best by being good and helping others get better.

[skend04]

Went out for a few drinks last night. Never realised that the anxiety levels could be cranked up to 11 when hungover. This is not good.

[Elite]

17 minutes ago, Pidge said:

You get on best by being good and helping others get better.

Not always. It depends on the environment of certain workplaces and what they value most.

[Hades]

Selflessness only works in a high trust, low debt society. Practicing usury, saddling future generations with debt removes any incentive to care about others.

[Section_31]

1 hour ago, Elite said:

Not always. It depends on the environment of certain workplaces and what they value most.

I think the ket there is to try and get out of those jobs mate. My old job partly made me ill even though it was laid back and easy, because it's value system was so divorced from mine (online retail and fashion filled by people you'd imagine like working somewhere like that?)

[Harry Squatter]

Where I work makes me laugh. We have all these national mental health days and awareness sessions as well as mindfulness meetings. All well and good and looks like a caring employer. But then we get a shite below inflation pay rise and each year the management chip away at your employment rights. Any type of thing they don't legally have to give you they will take from you and make the workplace as difficult as possible. 

 

People have anxiety over money problems and worry about taking sick days when genuinely Ill and no amount of sitting round in a tick box exercise group will stop that.

[Oh Buoy]

13 hours ago, Hades said:

You need something to work towards that affects your environment and status and you need someone or group of people to look down upon to alleviate feelings of inferiority. Without these things you will get depressed. That's what I've learnt from over a decade of therapy. Saved you all a load of money.

Hades' summary of CBT: 

• Change your environment/status; 
• Surround yourself with idiots;
• If you're depressed, go back to the first point. 

You need to change your therapist mate. 

12 hours ago, Elite said:

I don't agree with the extremes but I do get your point. Most people are cunts, just drive around town, or go on a night out you'll see fucking loads. It's the same in the workplace, you get on better by being a cunt.

Disagree with everything you've stated here. You cannot apply your experience to every population or scenario. For example, I've driven around town and I've not identified any 'cunts', I went out last night and had a blast, again, did not see anyone I'd describe as a 'cunt' and my workplace is lovely. 

12 hours ago, Hades said:

Most mentally ill person has too much empathy and most "healthy" people have little empathy. Evil psychological coping mechanisms are the only way we can survive reality, hence reality is evil.

Can you give me the research paper that you've taking empathy measure from? I'd also appreciate the negative empathy = success paper too, please. 

[VladimirIlyich]

On 9/14/2018 at 12:38 PM, rubble-rouser said:

 

Was it amitrypiline? That is used as a mild antidepressant and for pain relief. 

I have no idea whether it is addictive?

Not addictive but needs to be built up to be the most effective the pain doctor told me. As it gives me bad stomach cramps I refuse to take more than one at night as it helps with sleep.

[Elite]

58 minutes ago, Seasons said:

 

Disagree with everything you've stated here. You cannot apply your experience to every population or scenario. For example, I've driven around town and I've not identified any 'cunts', I went out last night and had a blast, again, did not see anyone I'd describe as a 'cunt' and my workplace is lovely. 

 

 

[Elite]

9 hours ago, Section_31 said:

I think the ket there is to try and get out of those jobs mate. My old job partly made me ill even though it was laid back and easy, because it's value system was so divorced from mine (online retail and fashion filled by people you'd imagine like working somewhere like that?)

My company now are sound, they leave you to get on with things and give you credit.

 

I've worked in other places, which where breeding grounds for one-upmanship.

[Oh Buoy]

9 minutes ago, Elite said:

 

 

[Creator Supreme]

2 hours ago, Doctor Troy said:

Where I work makes me laugh. We have all these national mental health days and awareness sessions as well as mindfulness meetings. All well and good and looks like a caring employer. But then we get a shite below inflation pay rise and each year the management chip away at your employment rights. Any type of thing they don't legally have to give you they will take from you and make the workplace as difficult as possible. 

 

People have anxiety over money problems and worry about taking sick days when genuinely Ill and no amount of sitting round in a tick box exercise group will stop that.

Same in my work, sickening thing is a fair amount of the workers in there help the company do it!

 

Turkeys voting for Christmas!

[Hades]

On 10/21/2018 at 7:21 AM, Seasons said:

Hades' summary of CBT: 

• Change your environment/status; 
• Surround yourself with idiots;
• If you're depressed, go back to the first point. 

You need to change your therapist mate. 

Disagree with everything you've stated here. You cannot apply your experience to every population or scenario. For example, I've driven around town and I've not identified any 'cunts', I went out last night and had a blast, again, did not see anyone I'd describe as a 'cunt' and my workplace is lovely. 

Can you give me the research paper that you've taking empathy measure from? I'd also appreciate the negative empathy = success paper too, please. 

 

There's no free will. We're vicious animals and almost everything we do is a rationalisation for getting one up on somebody else or justifying our own status. All coping mechanisms are just aesthetics to give dignity (a concept that furthers procreation) to suffering. Christianity's outward coping, Buddhism's inward coping eg. maybe god is something outside of this universe and all the horrendous suffering in this universe is a blessing, a part of a greater meaning (psychological reframing).

 

The empathy points come from my own experience with meditation and Paul Bloom's work at Yale.

[Oh Buoy]

On 10/20/2018 at 7:43 AM, Hades said:

You need something to work towards that affects your environment and status and you need someone or group of people to look down upon to alleviate feelings of inferiority. Without these things you will get depressed. That's what I've learnt from over a decade of therapy. Saved you all a load of money.

 

On 10/20/2018 at 8:36 AM, Hades said:

Most mentally ill person has too much empathy and most "healthy" people have little empathy. Evil psychological coping mechanisms are the only way we can survive reality, hence reality is evil.

 

46 minutes ago, Hades said:

 

There's no free will. We're vicious animals and almost everything we do is a rationalisation for getting one up on somebody else or justifying our own status. All coping mechanisms are just aesthetics to give dignity (a concept that furthers procreation) to suffering. Christianity's outward coping, Buddhism's inward coping eg. maybe god is something outside of this universe and all the horrendous suffering in this universe is a blessing, a part of a greater meaning (psychological reframing).

 

The empathy points come from my own experience with meditation and Paul Bloom's work at Yale.

It's like you've tried to argue the point of low self-esteem vs. anxiety and then stopped yourself due to the absence of abstract thinking. Then, to throw a curve ball or 'alternative view' you've brought in social psychology (justification of group behaviour), philosophy (purpose of life) and religion (values/idealism). 

 

As for the Paul Bloom's acknowledgement, a hyper-rationalist, I'd be interested to your additional reading behind this as it's widely known that although well-researched his recent work focuses on the bias and manipulation of empathy and overlooks the benefits of empathy.