Anzhi Away 08/11

[Whelan]

That wasn't too bad really, if the results stay the same then a win for us and Anzi in the next matches would mean we both qualify.

[Whelan]

Cole, Henderson and Downing don't belong anywhere near this club.

 

I always felt Henderson was the one who would offer something, he has a good touch, a good brain and can play a bit - but, too often it is kept safe, sometimes it is ultra safe and sometimes he refuses to take any responsibility and passes it on to someone else.

 

At the moment he just doesn't have that speed of thought to play the quick ball forward, he just won't make the important pass in the way that Sahin, Gerrard, Shelvey, Allen and Suso do. He needs to start showing some bollox otherwise he will go the same way as Downing!

[Kobayashi Maru]

Henderson, Downing, and Cole unfortunately are fairly indicative of where we are and is reflected in our general play. The lack of real drive and more importantly leaders on the pitch, willing to take responsibility, fight, desire and try something to exact change. If only they had Kuyt's mental fortitude and heart, would bring real quality to there play.

 

All very well Rodgers banging the 'playing well' drum, but the passing and play for large parts of the game lacked any real purpose. Teams seem to create far more clear cut chances against us then we do against them. Maybe we need to be more decisive in the final 20 yards.

[rubberduckstyle]

Henderson, Downing, and Cole unfortunately are fairly indicative of where we are and is reflected in our general play. The lack of real drive and more importantly leaders on the pitch, willing to take responsibility, fight, desire and try something to exact change. If only they had Kuyt's mental fortitude and heart, would bring real quality to there play.

 

All very well Rodgers banging the 'playing well' drum, but the passing and play for large parts of the game lacked any real purpose. Teams seem to create far more clear cut chances against us then we do against them. Maybe we need to be more decisive in the final 20 yards.

 

What we need to do is get into the final 20 yards. The way we knocked the ball about in the second half you would have thought we were 1 nil up. Some horrible players with little or no direction and what you get is what we seen here tonight.

[smicer07]

Another famous defeat

[Faustus]

Anybody know what the criteria is for separating teams level on points? Is it head to head or goal difference?

[ZonkoVille77]

I'm not as upset with the individual performances of the players as I am with the tactics.

We got hit on the break so many times again that it's scary. Every team who plays against us will do it and most will succeed.

I know we need to strengthen up front but I'm more worried about the defence. All our defenders are slow as fuck. But even the first string are getting caught out like this. So it's tactics. And they are shit. We've a long long way to go before we look like a team again.

[Whelan]

Anybody know what the criteria is for separating teams level on points? Is it head to head or goal difference?

 

I think it is head to head first, then goal difference. So if we can beat Young Boys and Anzi can beat Udinese we would be through regardless of Udinese.

[General Dryness]

Cole, Henderson and Downing don't belong anywhere near this club.

 

Thats 36 million quids worth of players there in bold.

 

Well, obviously it isn't. But its what we paid for them. For fucks sake.

[Whelan]

I'm not as upset with the individual performances of the players as I am with the tactics.

We got hit on the break so many times again that it's scary. Every team who plays against us will do it and most will succeed.

I know we need to strengthen up front but I'm more worried about the defence. All our defenders are slow as fuck. But even the first string are getting caught out like this. So it's tactics. And they are shit. We've a long long way to go before we look like a team again.

 

We were one nil down. And as you said, the defenders are slow ergo we will be caught!

 

First half they created fuck all because we were solid, 2nd half we were chasing and they caught us - that is what happens.

[Megadrive Man]

Anybody know what the criteria is for separating teams level on points? Is it head to head or goal difference?

 

Head to Head

[gumps]

Don't think the pitch helped our lads tonight. Awful surface, always seemed to take two touches to get the ball under control and didn't suit the quick passing game the lads are obviously trying to play.

 

On the TV it looked a big pitch too.

 

 

Young Boys have given us a big favour by beating Udinese.

[STARDELTA]

Not sure who has and hasn't travelled for this game.

 

We could do with getting at least a draw, but at the same time with the Chelsea game on Sunday, I hope we rest Suarez for this one.

 

I'd play

 

Jones,

Wisdom,Coates, Carragher,Robinson

Henderson,Shelvey, Sahin

Pacheco,Yesil, Downing

Extremly impressed by the football the side played from first whistle today. educated, the players on the park must be getting some 'latin football' lessons because it aint been studied in england. we were brilliant and nil all draw would have been acceptable the fact we did not equalise. we need a marksman.i was at anfield last week and if the positive rumour the claus huntale will be a red in january then I am going to by Led Zepplin that was played when i heard the comment inside the ground..we all live and hope. u know who we have sunday.Brendan do not make wholesale changes please. Never mind We Come Not to Play say America! Let the mantra be We Come With to Win. Gary Byron, Red '96 YWNA :idea:

[ZonkoVille77]

Extremly impressed by the football the side played from first whistle today. educated, the players on the park must be getting some 'latin football' lessons because it aint been studied in england. we were brilliant and nil all draw would have been acceptable the fact we did not equalise. we need a marksman.i was at anfield last week and if the positive rumour the claus huntale will be a red in january then I am going to by Led Zepplin that was played when i heard the comment inside the ground..we all live and hope. u know who we have sunday.Brendan do not make wholesale changes please. Never mind We Come Not to Play say America! Let the mantra be We Come With to Win. Gary Byron, Red '96 YWNA :idea:

 

Beautiful. Poetic. A joy to read.

[MOGLET]

Given what we had on the field, a 1-0 away isnt the worst that could have happened.

 

No complaints, and certainly not much to moan about, if we were ahead of what we are as a club, then maybe we could say we should be winning this sort of game.

 

We arent and so we cant complain at losing to a shit side with the mix and match we put out.

 

Concentrate on the league, isnt that what people keep droning on about? well tonight we did by our team selection, so by that, we did alright.

 

Henderson is still a hospital passer who doesnt like to get his quiff ruffled, downing is a syndrome, and Cole? I feel a bit sorry for, he isnt a player to come in and make a difference when the quality around him is so weak, so cant really slate him.

 

Other than that, not the worst result that it could have been.

[sir roger]

It pains me to stick up for Downing but I think he has been decent in all of our No-Hoper games & did fairly well tonight.

 

I know Jonjo has a lot of fans on here but I just don't see it I'm afraid. He is glacially slow, seems to miscontrol the ball constantly, his shooting is wasteful & he is always likely to pick up cards.

[xerxes]

It pains me to stick up for Downing but I think he has been decent in all of our No-Hoper games & did fairly well tonight.

 

I know Jonjo has a lot of fans on here but I just don't see it I'm afraid. He is glacially slow, seems to miscontrol the ball constantly, his shooting is wasteful & he is always likely to pick up cards.

 

 

I agree.

 

Downing did ok today, probably enough to earn him a berth against Chelsea. Shelvey, to me, is a Championship player.

[mike23]

I didn't have great expectations for the game considering the team we put out but it was a frustrating defeat in the end as we'd looked in very little danger of conceding in the first half and only had to stay solid for a few more seconds. Second half was disappointing but we never really had the players out there to chase the game. Udinese losing certainly helps us and a win over Young Boys should be enough now unless Udinese actually win in Russia. If we can't win at home to Young Boys then we really don't deserve to qualify.

[Zambian_Red]

After sundays defeat we shall drop to 15 on the table. Its complete nonsense that we finish around mid table come May becuase i dont see attracting any quality players nor retaining what we currently have.

 

Saurez is gone next year!

[stringvest]

It pains me to stick up for Downing but I think he has been decent in all of our No-Hoper games & did fairly well tonight.

 

I know Jonjo has a lot of fans on here but I just don't see it I'm afraid. He is glacially slow, seems to miscontrol the ball constantly, his shooting is wasteful & he is always likely to pick up cards.

 

His attitude and character are strong, but he's not at premiership level. He might get there, as he's still young, but he's not there yet. He's actually quite good in these sort of games, where he gets a lot more time on the ball. Apart from his usual lack of composure and technique in front of goal, he played quite well I thought.

[sir roger]

His attitude and character are strong, but he's not at premiership level. He might get there, as he's still young, but he's not there yet. He's actually quite good in these sort of games, where he gets a lot more time on the ball. Apart from his usual lack of composure and technique in front of goal, he played quite well I thought.

 

Reading my comments it seems harsher than I meant to be. I think he could be a decent lad, but I have a few mates who go on about him like he is the second coming & I see he is in the England squad for instance & it baffles me a bit at this point.

[Mathewbet1]

Shelvey lacks 2 things - pace and hair. He's got everything else.

[Red '84]

the money we wasted on downing et al last summer gets more painful to fathom with each passing day.

[STARDELTA]

Beautiful. Poetic. A joy to read.

thanks very much. i appreciate your appreciation. We will develop and win again.

[KopOut]

Bring back Hodgson.

 

His Ingerland job could be the full-time role, and he could manage us on the weekends - kind of a hobby sort of thing. He'd probably be an improvement on BR.