I suppose that's what I'm asking. Is the plan to win fans, or to help people? It wouldn't seem suited to doing either really. On the other hand, if we go with the assumption that the Tories will not adopt what Starmer suggests then just putting out an alternative should force the Tories to put it near the top of their agenda and offer more help from October. You never know with this lot though.

So should Kenny when he put his arm out to stop him walking off. That was disgraceful.

I didn't see one woman out on the pitch, ergo it was a men's game.   Fucking hell.