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As well as mental strength, it's also the ability to recognise when stuff isn't working during a match and to try something different. We've been absolutely shit at that recently and it's bounced us out of three competitions in about a month.

He’s not flawless, and I dont have any idea how good he is as a captain. But judging him as a player he is still one of the best CBs in the world, probably the best. He’s the most difficult player to replace in the current squad.

I hate this iteration of our team with an absolute passion. At least last year we had the excuse of past it players coming off the back of an enormous push for four trophies. This lot? These are the absolute dogs. A few special mentions if i may: Darwin Nunez or Darwin 'fucking' Nunez as we all like to call him. An absolute waste of a space forward who has probably cost us a few trophies this season. He's just not fucking good enough. Better strikers have been bombed out of Liverpool for less. Szoboslai, an utter coward of a player. Seems to posses some great traits but like Keita before him, just doesn't fancy it and has no fire in his belly. An utter waste of 60 million. Trent. A lot of our current day issues are to do with the constant pandering to him in the team by management. He's a sublime passer but his insistence of playing a different role has fucked the system and that's on Klopp. Konate - always said he was a donkey, like Traoare on peds. He hasn't got the brains for central defence. he cant pass and he cant score at set pieces and he's always injured. Should be sold asap. Jota - broken Endo - not his fault but no more than a squad player at best. A fine example of Liverpool buying on the cheap. Gravenberch - What is he? Who is he? I could mention Salah and VVD but that would be unfair as both are coming to the end of their careers and have given us a lot. Attitude: Never, ever in my lifetime supporting Liverpool have i seen a team with such a casual approach to playing football matches. Say what you like about Man City, but there's a professionalism we lack in spades. We've been beaten and held by some of the WORST teams I've ever seen in this league, Luton, Everton, Manchester United, Palace, Atalanta. Utter pits of teams who have hardly been able to win matches and stop conceding. We've made to look like front runners. Utterly pathetic. Our tactics - utter shit. Inflexible garbage. Same formation week in week out, same inverted system that fucks with everybody's head. Same game that relies on players running themselves into the ground till they break. A system that gives up a million clear cut chances a game to some of even the shittest sides around. No brains, no intelligence, just a 4-3-3 that's as old as time. Our transfers - Lorded all over the land, our transfers have been cheap, poorly planned and pathetic. The last time we bought well was about three years ago if that. Every summer its about bargains and "just doing enough". You cant act like that and win the big trophies, its just not possible. Our summer business the last two season has been about a 2/10. Grim. Our Owners - Money men with no love for the game. Yeah they've done ok with finances and assets as you would expect but they lack the passion you need to win things, like the Club did of old. They've relied on a guy to glue this club together whose aged about 20 years in 10 and now they have no safety net. prepare for rough waters. Some might say we are lucky to be challenging but forget that. We were here and we had it in our hands and whats worse was that we pissed it away against some of the utter dross of the league, its unforgiveable. Id even say the Cup was won by the kids and not the seniors as they were mostly awful in the final. the only time i got excited was seing a blend of kids and seniors start to make headway but even that was tossed out for our inflexible setup. If i was Jurgen i'd just go now. He's been great and I dont want to see him toil in his final days as he doesnt deserve it, he's given his all over the years whilst most at the club have done fuck all.

“you like that yeah” ”yeah baby give it to me, want me to call you daddy?” ”no I want you to sing “we’ll meet again” Hindsight is a wonderful thing but Endo should have started that last night. It was never going to be a ball on the floor football match. We needed some bollocks.

Happy birthday Stringers, forgot you were born same day as the universe.

Unfortunately, Nunez or Salah smiling after their latest awful miss doesn't bring the bacon home.

Shame that wasn't the line from him as soon as we'd scraped a draw against United, also hope he's including himself in what he's saying because he's been part of it.

By the way im fully behind the Labour policy on Railway renationalisation. It at least shows daylight between the two main parties and it'll be beneficial to the country as a whole.

Salah is finished as an elite player. However, I wouldn't question his attitude. I think he still cares. I just don't think he has it anymore - we rightly judge him on what he was. Diaz is a good player, who can be very good in a lot of games. In a functioning attack, he is a real handful because he creates space for others. I don't love him but I do like him. He isn't the problem. Nunez is the kind of player that you might get at West Ham, Wolves or Fulham, who you see regularly on Match of the Day. He looks shit hot in passing and you think oh he would be great here. Ironically, he'd probably get the same amoumt of goals at those clubs. Bottom line and I quite like him is that he ain't good enough to be at a club where the expectation and pressure is that we challenge for every trophy. He (and Mo) have cost us in the title race in the last few weeks. If we only just had a fit Jota but that's another issue. I'd love Kane here. I think he is nearly the ideal player for us, but very unlikely. I'd go all out for Watkins for that reason.

Every time my mother mentions Klopp she says that he doesn't look well and she thinks he has an illness. I've just brushed that off, but I am beginning to wonder if there is more than just mental exhaustion at work.

We don’t have a general in the middle. City have Rodri and Arsenal have Rice. I thought Dom might be that guy but he just isn’t.

Knowing our luck and his fragility he'll have a great euros then in the last match he plays end up long term crocked again.

I'm doing my best to stay out of these conversations, but one thing strikes me. Van Dijk isn't much of a captain when the chips are down is he? Bit of a shithouse to be honest. As much as this will piss some posters off, if we'd had a Henderson or preferably Milner as Captain would we have surrendered so meekly?

I don't think you can put out same 11 week after week now, but i do feel we would benefit from less changes all the time. 6 last night again after 6 at weekend - too many IMO.

If we had just won our first home game against an opponent since 2010, I’d expect us to show a bit more humility.

His hooker did though. It's over.

Happy birthday. I was wondering why there was a worldwide candle shortage.

We actually looked most dangerous when he deigned to overlap on the right during a spell in the second half, but for a while around the 70 minute mark, he was almost playing at left back. Very odd, as was the way we didn't target Everton's left when Mykolenko was hobbling towards the end of the first half. I appreciate he's not long back from a lengthy injury, but this inverted full back tactic has to die. It doesn't help the team, and neuters Salah who was completely isolated for much of the game last night.

I think that's a fair assessment. He's clearly very well regarded, but his status is an awful lot closer to that of Rodgers than that of Klopp. One big thing in his favour is the squad he currently has. Despite our recent failings, we've some excellent footballers, some of whom probably need to move on both to get rid of some staleness and to finance a team the manager can better work with. This is what Klopp started out with all those years ago: Mignolet, Clyne, Skrtel, Sakho, Moreno, Leiva, Can, Milner, Lallana, Coutinho, Origi

The Turtle's long gone mate. I only moved down here last year but knew of it. I'll make sure I'm free for it!

Happy birthday fella.

What the fuck was Gary 'don't question the refs decisions' Neville doing last night? He was actually saying there is going to be a riot if Branthwaite is given offside. A decision they apparently didn't put a 2nd line in for.

We haven’t lost it yet. Yeah we sung similar at the mancs when Ince (shudders) got that equaliser in the 2 all. I’m sure they went on to win the league that year? 97? Or was it 98 and Arsenal won it? Regardless it was small time then and small time now but they deserve something to smile about because we were abysmal last night. Anyway it’s not over until the fat lady sings and I didn’t hear Rooney belt a tune out after the match so keep the faith

Really don't understand why himself and Clark didn't continue to feature after our injury crisis. They were excellent and had big impacts in games. It's not like we had to start them, but surely they were worth fifteen minutes here and there in recent weeks when it was clear we needed something different. Instead - Tsimikas for Robertson.