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So how the hell do you go about summing that up? I’ve never seen anything like it. None of us have, because it’s never happened before. I'm still stunned even now just thinking about it. 

 

Probably the closest thing would be Divock’s Anfield derby winner, which compares in terms of the drama and the freak nature of the goal, but a goalkeeper scoring is just so unique. It’s literally a once in a lifetime thing that we’ll always remember.

 

It got us out of jail because we’d completely blown this game. The top four had all but gone and all the great vibes from Thursday night had been thrown away because we’d toiled so badly against a fucking dreadful team that had already been relegated and had nothing to play for. Managed by Sam fucking Allardyce. 

 

This match report was all set to be a scathing assessment on why these lads don’t deserve to be playing in the Champions League next season. And then THAT happened. Football eh? Bloody hell.

 

Lucky? Of course it was. It was a totally freak occurrence, the likes of which I doubt we’ll ever see again. Undeserved? Well that’s a much more complex discussion. Where we the better team? Yes. Did we do enough to ‘deserve’ the win? Yes and no. Put it this way, if Trent or Gini had hit the target and scored with the chances they had late on, would anyone (other than Jabba the Hutt) be saying we didn’t deserve it? I doubt it.

 

Conversely, neither Trent nor Gini could even hit the target with those chances so on the basis that our finishing was so shite once again, if we hadn’t come away with the points we wouldn’t have had anyone to blame but ourselves and we’d have deserved what we got. 

 

I don’t really care wether we deserved to win or not at this point. I just want to win because we can’t afford not to. Besides, we’ve had plenty of things go against us this season that were completely undeserved so this goes some small way towards redressing the balance.

 

As I reflect on this a day later, I’m conflicted. I’m ecstatic about how it ended and I couldn’t be happier for Alisson. I’m also concerned and pissed off that it came down to us needing him to do that. Against fucking West Brom. To go to Old Trafford and do what we did but then follow it up with this is troubling to me and doesn’t fill me with confidence for the final two games, because Burnley and Palace are both miles better than West Brom.

 

What went wrong here? It’s difficult to say exactly because individually there were some really good performances. Trent was amazing again (shooting aside), Mo looked sharp and Thiago was completely dominant. We weren’t clinical enough of had some issues in the middle of the defence though, there’s no getting away from that. I’m not blaming either of the lads back there as quite frankly it’s astonishing to me that this kind of thing hasn’t happened more regularly. 

 

The reason I love Big Nat so much is because he’s performing way beyond how he should be. This kind of performance should be the norm based on his level. The fact it hasn’t been is great credit to him. Same with Williams. He hasn’t been exposed anywhere near as much as he probably should have been based on his inexperience.

 

It worries me massively that the next two games might be when it finally happens though. If West Brom and Hal Robson-Kanu can expose them then Burnley and Chris Wood are going to be fancying their chances, and the idea of Zaha and Eze running at them and supplying balls for a rejuvenated Benteke on the last day fills me with dread.

 

We’ll see though. At least we’ve got something to play for as a few weeks back it didn’t look like we would have. I think the biggest problem we had in this game was conceding first. You don’t want to let an Allardyce team take the lead. 

 

We conceded first at Old Trafford too but the difference was that they were trying to play football and weren’t just sitting back. West Brom had everyone behind the ball and were playing for flick ons and set-pieces. And it worked for them.

 

Robson-Kanu got in behind to latch onto a flick on to fire them ahead. It was a lovely composed finish too. His first PL start in about four years and he does that. Against us. Typical. It was too easy how he got in though.

 

Fabinho didn’t win the header in midfield, Williams came out to close down Pereira but he just knocked it around the corner first time which took Rhys out of the play, and Robson-Kanu ran into the space vacated. All of this would have been find if Phillips had held the line, but he’d dropped off a few yards and played Robson-Kanu onside.

 

Something similar happened in the second half too and Alisson needed to make a sharp save. Like I say though, the only surprise is that it hasn’t happened more confidence considering the inexperience of the lads back there.

 

We were mostly on top but the game was more or less an exact replica of most of the ones we’ve seen in 2021. Lots of the ball, some good chances, plenty of frustration. And then we made the breakthrough.

 

West Brom aren’t happy about it and it’s easy to see why. No-one seems to know exactly what the ref was doing but it seems that he should have given a drop ball instead of a free-kick.

 

I don’t think Mike Dean blew for a foul on Fabinho. I’m fairly sure he blew because HE had obstructed him. Similar to when a referee unintentionally touches the ball he now stops and gives a free-kick. What he did was not correct decision by the letter of the law but it was morally the correct call because it was effectively the same as if he’d got in the way of a pass.

 

I wouldn’t see it that way if I was a West Brom fan though. I get why they would be pissed off about it but that’s the only thing they had any right to feel aggrieved over as Dean was giving them free-kicks any time one of our lads went within breathing distance of them. Yet again we had three times the amount of possession and three times the amount of fouls conceded. Absolute joke.

 

The ‘goal’ they had disallowed was absolutely the correct call and it was so obvious that VAR only needed one look at it. The angle behind the goal shows how their lad was directly in front of Alisson and completely obscuring his view. Alisson barely even moved towards the ball because he couldn’t see it.

 

If that fat cunt Allardyce wants to be angry at someone then it should be his lazy arsed striker who failed to get himself back onside. Good job by the linesman and by whoever was on VAR. Actually, I say ‘good’ job but that’s just giving them credit just for doing their job. It wasn’t a difficult decision but they get so much wrong that whenever they get something right I feel relieved. 

 

Ok that’s not fair actually. I’ve said this before but it’s worth repeating. Lino’s are for the most part really fucking good. It’s a difficult job but they get most things right. It’s the other clowns that cause the problem 99% of the time. The linesman flagged straight away and told Dean what he’d seen. VAR looked at the replay and agreed. Nothing to see here, move along.

 

Except no-one did want to move along. Not Fat Sam, and not Sky. Carragher kept saying “I wouldn’t have been happy if that had gone against me”. I don’t get that. He’s a fucking defender. Our defence pushed out, caught the lad well offside stood right in the middle of the goal blocking the keeper’s view. If that had gone against him as a defender he’d have gone batshit. Not sure why he’s talking about it from an attacking point of view.

 

It’s not that long since he retired but sometimes it’s like he’s completely forgotten who he was as a player. Like when Souey is getting all judgemental about tackling. I’m the first to admit when we’ve gotten lucky with a decision but this wasn’t that. Its just not a goal, simple as that.

 

Anyway, even though it was the right call it was still a let off because we’re usually on the wrong end of any kind of ‘judgement’ call. So I did feel relieved and was thinking it might be just what we needed to go on and win the game.

 

We did in the end, but fuck me that was a tough watch. The longer the second half went the more pissed off I was getting. Breaking point came when Wijnaldum shot over the bar really late on. I was fucking seething, not specifically with Gini but with the team as a whole because all season they’ve missing the target in good situations. Trent had done the same minutes earlier.

 

It feels like Salah is the only one who can fucking shoot anymore (and even he can be erratic). I agreed with Shaq being brought on but I wouldn’t have subbed Curtis. I’d have hooked Mané as he was doing my head in. You act like that the other night and then THIS is your response when you get back in the team? Foolishly, before the game I was really confident that he’d go out there and be the old Sadio and win the game for us.

 

That second half was torture to watch. Just so frustrating and I felt utterly helpless as our season died a slow, drawn out death in front of our eyes. As time ticked away I did something I never normally do. Because I’m watching on the laptop using my mum’s sky log in there is a delay of about a minute, which means the lads in the group chat who are watching on telly are all ahead of me. So I usually only look at my phone at half time and full time to avoid spoilers.

 

In my mind this one was over as it ticked into the fourth minute of stoppage time. I’d written this one off. The game, the season. Over. And I was fuming and looking to let off steam. Not sure exactly what I said but it was along the lines of “sick of these cunts never hitting the target” and no sooner had I hit send then all hell broke loose with everyone making comments like “bwahahahahahahahahaha” “get iiiiiiinnnnnnnn” and then bizarrely (for this chat anyway) “God is indeed good then”.

 

So I knew we’d scored but I didn’t know what had happened. Then I saw Alisson trotting forward for a corner and the “God is good” comment suddenly struck me. He couldn’t, could he? Yes, he fucking could.

 

I feel a little bit cheated due to the element of surprise being taken away. It was my own fault as I should have waited until full time, but even though the moment was tarnished a little it was still fucking incredible. I doubt we’ll ever seen anything like that again in our lifetimes. Let’s face it, it’s never happened to us before and the club is almost 130 years old.

 

This is something we’ll remember for the rest of our lives. It’s an iconic moment in the history of the club. Ok, it didn’t bring us a trophy, but our season was on the line as we simply have to get into that top four for all sorts of reasons. We need to be in the Champions League and we also need the fucking money. 

 

Not winning this game would have been massively deflating and would have had serious implications for the future in terms of our ability to improve the squad. It was a goal that meant something, and who knows, if we do make the top four then next year we might actually win the thing again, in which case how significant will this goal look then? 

 

We’ve still got two more must win games for that to happen and Burnley away has the potential to be really tough as they’ve been doing well recently and it’s never an easy place to go. They’ll have fans in there too, which complicates things further.

 

These last two wins though do seem to suggest we’ve got momentum on our side again at long last. We’re down to the bare bones though and have now lost Jota. The bench is pretty threadbare so the lads who are starting now will need to dig deep and power through the last couple of games. Resting players isn’t really an option now.

 

The good thing is that the midfield is functioning well at the moment. Fabinho going back in there has really allowed Thiago to flourish and he was fucking brilliant in this game. Wherever the ball is, Thiago never seems to be more than 10-15 yards away from it. He covers an incredible amount of ground and he’s really starting to dictate the play. Some of his passing was imperious in this game.

 

Getting Gini back in there with him and Fabinho at Turf Moor gives me added confidence. Defensively it’s the type of game that should suit our inexperienced centre backs too as they are more suited to an aerial barrage than speedsters running in behind them, but West Brom’s direct approach caused problems so who knows. 

 

So ultimately, as usual, it’s going to come down to what the front three do and whether they take their chances. We all loved the way this game finished and we’ll savour it for a long time but there is a bigger picture here. 

 

I don’t want to be ‘that guy’ but it needs saying. Alisson scoring the winner isn’t really ideal is it? He’s not there to do that and the fact he needed to doesn’t reflect well on those who are actually there to score goals.

 

I thought Sadio did virtually nothing of any note once more. Bobby was actually involved quite a bit and his performance was fine, but he didn’t take the great chance he had and that could have been costly. Mo was sound, no complaints about him, but it would help massively if one of the midfielders could offer a threat. Curtis was neat and tidy but we need more. Same with Shaq when he came on.

 

Alisson got his team-mates out of jail though because they shouldn’t need him to do that to beat a team that’s already been fucking relegated. 

 

When it’s all said and done though it doesn’t matter how we win these remaining games, just that we somehow find a way to do it. We’re not exactly charging towards the finish line but we’re nearly there and just need to dig deep for the final stretch. 

 

Star man is Alisson. In reality it was Thiago by a long fucking way, but after what Alisson did it has to be him. Still, Thiago is really starting to make an impact now and any concerns anybody (me included) had about his suitability to our set up have surely been eased now. I’m really looking forward to seeing him play live next season when we’re all back in and things are normal again.

 

As much as this season just needs wiping from the memory, Alisson has ensured that it might just be remembered with some fondness after all now. What a moment that was. Still can’t believe it. Fucking hell. Hahahaha!

 

 

Team: Alisson; Alexander-Arnold, Phillips, R Williams (Wijnaldum), Robertson; Fabinho, Thiago, Jones (Shaqiri); Salah, Firmino, Mané:


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It would be a crying shame if we blew the last 2 games now and didn't qualify.  A  moment like that has to mean something, has to be built on.

This club never does things the easy way, does it ?

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Completely agree about Thiago. I was starting to harbour some niggling doubts in him - not about his ability, but that it might just be one of those transfers which just doesn't work out and nobody has a fucking clue why, like Morientes or Veron or something. But he's really beginning to function now and he's terrific to watch.

 

Just a point - if Mike Dean obstructing Thiago should have been a drop ball then what is mashed potato face moaning about? It's not like it was a direct free kick or was awarded in a dangerous area to swing the ball into the box - if he'd have awarded a drop ball I don't really see how play would have developed that much differently to how it did.

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I made a thread a while back regarding our corners and attacking set pieces. I really would like us to consistently be hitting them swinging towards goal. We very rarely do that. I think our goal against the Mancs  was our first from a corner in something like 150 attempts. 

 

I was screaming at the telly every time Robbo went out to take one in the 2nd half. In my mind, there's no way we score from one of them outswingers without some truly dominant headers of the ball in there.

 

 

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A few months ago I was saying to buddies that I didn't see how Thiago was adding anything to us but in the back of my mind I knew when Fabinho was back in there we would see the real Thiago.Very excited now for next season if we can get over the line in the last 2 games.As a former keeper I was delighted to see Alisson go up and get the winner,the technique was unreal.

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Great report, Dave.

 

Im normally confident at times like this, especially after the united win but, this game was just too much for me. I thought we'd win and struggle but fuck me, we made it hard and even harder to watch.

 

Said to the old girl when that fucker scored, yet another yarddog who cannot buy a game in the PL never mind a goal, is made to look absolute class against us (yeah I know but you get my drift).

 

He finished that move well and when you consider what Bobby, Trent and Wijnaldum did in better positions, fuck my life. Im no longer on board with the Gini love in. He's another one, scores for his country but fluffs his lines for us. So, no tears from me when he leaves, I think we can do better.

 

Agree about Sadio. Did well to find Mo for the goal but that was just about his only contribution. After that show at the end of the united game you'd think he had a point to prove. He was slow arsed getting on side for his 'goal' but if he'd been switched on, he'd have been back onside before that cross was played. Sorry, he's another I wont weep over if he goes in the summer.

 

Id resigned myself to the draw from about the 70th minute mark. Id given up hope. Bobby slapping the post was the final straw. But like everyone else, I was elated with Alli's goal. The boy leapt like a salmon and the net bulged! Great joy, we live to fight another day. You just go into the next game thinking 'please dont fuck this up!'

 

Mo aside, our finishing was woeful with a capital W. Why do professional footballers lean back when striking the ball 10-12 yards from goal? Fucking amazing.

 

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I admire your restraint in not putting the boot into Fat Sam as much as he deserves. Taking the high road and all that.

 

On the other hand, you can never put enough boot into the fat fuck. I'd say you should do better next time, but hopefully that's the last we see of him.

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1 hour ago, lebron said:

I made a thread a while back regarding our corners and attacking set pieces. I really would like us to consistently be hitting them swinging towards goal. We very rarely do that. I think our goal against the Mancs  was our first from a corner in something like 150 attempts. 

 

I was screaming at the telly every time Robbo went out to take one in the 2nd half. In my mind, there's no way we score from one of them outswingers without some truly dominant headers of the ball in there.

 

 

 

Fully agree with this, especially when Virgil isn't there.

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We've had some amazing goals during the Klopp era but I was always certain that Gini's opener against Middlesbrough would remain my favourite because of how important it was.

 

This Alisson goal has to overtake that and if we qualify for the CL and go on to win again this goal will be seen as even legendary than it will end up being.

 

We've had last-minute or late goals in the Klopp Era Divock, Lovren, Mane against Everton and Villa but this one overtakes all of those just because of how ridiculous it is.

 

This is the first time this entire season where I just enjoyed football. No thoughts of the empty stadium or VAR just pure enjoyment.

 

Also if this is the last game we play against Sam Allardyce then what a way to end it.

 

 

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Whenever we hit an inswinging corner it seems to end with a free kick to them. But that doesn't seem to happen so often when we're defending one. 

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On a side note at then end of the game  that’s the first time I’ve seen Klopp acting like Klopp for a long time...Understandable given the year he’s had but it was nice to see him celebrating and with those white choppers on display at the end ...

 

Also said it on another thread Dean gave them everything all game and especially  the free-kick that led to their goal for a non challenge by Thiago but slobber chops is happy to ignore that 
 

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Couple of points:

 

1. For all the crying about the drop ball/free kick, it’s not as though Fab slotted a direct pass through for someone to score. Most of the WBA defence and midfield were back and if they’d have done their job and not been so fucking slow about it they’d have cleared the ball when it came free from the initial tackle on Mo. So stop your crying and fuck off back to your sister and mother wives. Which brings me to...

 

2. Sadio did contribute one very important thing. When that ball broke free he made damn sure he got to it ahead of the defender to poke it to Mo, even though the defender was favourite to get it. Mo’s magic boot did the rest.

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The rule has changed. What Dean did was per the rules. 

Fat Sam pushes the rules to the limit to suit his dinosaur tactics but rails against the them (the drop ball rule and the offside rule) when they don't. 

 

Good luck and good riddance - and fuck the 8 premier league chairmen/CEOs that have employed the fucking stain on the game. 

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I disagree with the narrative that we don't deserve 4th and if we didn't score late yesterday it would have been a bottle job and typical of the team this season.

I thought late goals were a sign of a mentally strong team. I thought winning and even playing well, when things are not going your way was a good sign.

The only reason we have not won our last 8 is because of 2 late equalisers v Leeds and Newcastle. We deserved our late goal yesterday, at least as much as Leeds, and a lot more than Newcastle did. We are on a very good run of results without our 4 first choice CBs, captain, vice-captain and now one of our 2 forwards that score regularly. 

The season was gone 8 games ago. We were 8th, 10 points behind Leicester, 7 behind Chelsea, 5 (and a game more played) behind West Ham, 3 (and a game more played) behind Everton, and even Villa were in a better position. 

 

I would be the first to say that the whole squad and management let everything affect them when things started to go badly wrong at the end of the year and they reacted poorly but with everything that has gone on this season I think if they can get 26 points from the final 10 games and CL qualification, it would be up there with the Barca game for a turnaround. 

 

Form in the last 8 games.
Liverpool 20
Man City 18
Leeds 18
Man Utd 16
Tottenham 14
Chelsea 14
Leicester 13
Arsenal 12
West Ham 11
Everton 10

 

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Fat sham instilled in his player's that this is now the biggest game of the season and tried everything to fuck up our season for us. Give the fans something to smile about my bollocks, spamy fat fuck. If they applied tha same effort this season they wouldn't be going down. 

I'd like to see players hitting the ball from outside the box more often than trying to walk it into the net,just shoot ffs. Jimmy case should be a coach here. 

Great result but again might mean nothing without getting 6pts from the last two games. Burnley and Palace could make a name for themselves. 

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2 hours ago, Stickman said:

On a side note at then end of the game  that’s the first time I’ve seen Klopp acting like Klopp for a long time...Understandable given the year he’s had but it was nice to see him celebrating and with those white choppers on display at the end ...

 


 

I said that to Mr Suzy at the end!

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Let’s hope that goal is the defibrulator giving the corpse of this season one last jolt to get us over the line and into fourth. Still not overconfident on the game with Burnley but fair play to the boys who kept going despite the clear lack of confidence in front of goal (Mo excepted).

 

I don’t think I’ve simultaneously cheered and laughed at a goal so much since Divock nodded in against the Blues!

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Couple of points:

 

1. For all the crying about the drop ball/free kick, it’s not as though Fab slotted a direct pass through for someone to score. Most of the WBA defence and midfield were back and if they’d have done their job and not been so fucking slow about it they’d have cleared the ball when it came free from the initial tackle on Mo. So stop your crying and fuck off back to your sister and mother wives. Which brings me to...

 

Totally agree.  West Brom had possession, but then played a poor back pass which allowed Sadio to nip in and tee the ball up for Mo. The goal was down to their defensive incompetence, not the free kick which preceded it. 

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Agree about Sadio, but something "football God like" tells me we'll see a Mane hat trick in one of the remaining games.

 

Relax about 4th place. Football God doesn't make a keeper score a header like that without meaning. Football God is only teasing us.

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