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You know what I was thinking about after this? It wasn’t how bad we were in the first half. It wasn’t how we bravely came back in the second half. It wasn’t even anything about this game. I just thought about that fucking stupid, inexcusable loss at Leicester a few months ago, and how that has completely skewed things to the point that a draw away at City now probably isn’t really good enough.

 

I know we’ve dropped other points this season and some of you will look at Brentford away or Brighton at home. That’s fair enough, but to me those are just results that can happen throughout a season. The Leicester one just can’t happen though. Not when you’ve got literally everything stacked in your favour. Even if we’d drawn that game we’d be top right now. But we didn’t, we lost. And the consequence of that was we needed to go and win at City. And we never fucking win at City.

 

In the end the draw is probably not going to be enough for us, but it’s probably a result we should be quite thankful for based on how the game went. We were lucky not to be down by three or four at half time because we were shambolic at times in that first half. It wasn’t all bad and there were spells in which we did quite well, but mostly it was a mess.

 

The second half was much better and we probably shaded it, even if City still had the better chances. The performance from us was good and the character of the players is commendable, because at half time we looked in big trouble. I’d have snatched your hand off for a draw at half time because, if I’m being totally honest, I thought 4-1 or 5-1 was more likely than us getting something. As it turned out, I sold the lads short there.

 

I’m appalled though that we did that thing so many shit teams do and allowed City to score inside the first five minutes. It’s rule number one when you play them. You just can’t do that, but we did. And although the goal was a fluke we can’t complain too much because we would have conceded even earlier but for a brilliant save by Alisson from Sterling.

 

That doesn’t mean I have no complaints about the goal, because I do. And it’s more about the officiating than our defending. Firstly, and this is not the fault of the linesman but more the shitty changes they’ve made to the rules, there was an offside that wasn’t given in the lead up to the free kick that led to the goal.

 

Sterling is miles offside and the ball is knocked up towards him. He doesn’t challenge for it, but him being there meant that Virgil had to head the ball clear because he can’t be sure Sterling is offside as he won’t know where the rest of the defensive line is. So I really don’t like that, but in fairness we would benefit from something similar on our first equaliser, which I’ll get to shortly.

 

So the ball is headed clear and there’s a foul by Fabinho, who was miles off the pace for the entire first half. City took a quick free-kick, about six yards away from where the foul took place. Should that have been pulled back? Probably yeah, but I also feel that the attacking team should get some leeway in those circumstances. Six yeards of leeway? Not sure.

 

That advantage meant that De Bruyne had the ball on the edge of our box before we were in any kind of position to deal with him. His shot took a wicked deflection of Matip and left Alisson with no chance. Proper fucking spawn shit, and not for the first time as he did the same thing at Anfield earlier in the season. The net result of it was that we’d done the one thing you can’t fucking do against these pricks - concede early.

 

Thankfully their lead didn’t last long. We’d had a good couple of minutes where it felt as though we’d weathered the storm and were coming back into it, and then just like that we were level. Great move it was too. Starting with Thiago who shimmed away from a couple of opponents on halfway and then pinged a glorious ball out to Trent. He picked out Mo, and then I’m not sure if he was trying to find Sadio (who was miles offside) or Jota (who was running from deep). Either way, a defender got there first and headed clear but only as far as Robbo.

 

He stood one up to the back post where Trent arrived and showed fantastic awareness to cushion the ball back to Jota for a simple finish. Keeper probably could have done better with that but who cares. I’m not comfortable about that being given as a goal because Mané is clearly offside and it looks like the ball was aimed at him, but that’s how the game is these days. I think it’s poorer as a result, but if I had my way there’d be less goals as neither of the first two goals in this game would have stood.

 

I had hoped that the equaliser would deflate City and give us momentum, but it didn’t really. I think most of our problems were self inflicted, but that’s also doing City a dis-service because some of the things they did were brilliant. Not spectacularly brilliant, but there was just an efficiency and great skill in how they kept beating our high line over and over.

 

That being said, the bigger problem for us was we kept trying to play out from the back and their high press kept catching us out. They did to us what we usually do to our opponents. Not only were they pressing well, but they were far more direct than usual. Again, that’s what we usually do. Quick passes in for runners in behind.

 

It’s not City’s usual style but then they’ve changed massively how they play against us. We kept taking them to the cleaners and Guardiola has freely admitted that he’s spent countless hours thinking about how to beat us. Those hours have been well spent because their record against us in recent seasons is good, and even though they haven’t beaten us this season (not yet anyway, I fear the worst for this weekend though) the results aren’t really indicative of how those games have gone. 

 

It’s been really disheartening to me to see how they’ve been able to play against us in both games, and really they should have won both games based on how they played. Our first half display had me tearing my fucking hair out. Time and again we tried to pass it around at the back, but Alisson, Trent, Fabinho and even Matip on a couple of occasions just seemed flustered and kept giving it away.

 

It was doing my fucking head in, because when we did get it forward I thought Ederson and his defenders looked ropey as fuck. What I would have liked to see us do is completely sack off that passing it out from the back and just bypass their press and back our forwards to win enough one v one battles to cause them problems. 

 

I know this is how we play and that Klopp wants us to play our football and that approach clearly works against every other team in the league. It hasn’t worked against City for a few years now though. City completely changed their normal approach against us because it wasn’t working, and to me it now looks like they’ve got our number, even if a pair of 2-2 draws would suggest otherwise. The eye test concerns me because it feels like they’ve outplayed us twice now and we’ve been lucky they didn’t spank us.

 

We could easily have conceded four or five in the first half and we’re fortunate it was only the two. The second goal was shite from our point of view but once against highlights what City did to us that no-one else has been able to.

 

For all the talk of our high line and how ‘risky’ it is, hardly anyone has been able to exploit it. I’m not entirely sure why everyone always runs offside against us because it’s honestly not THAT difficult to time a run so that you stay onside, but whatever the reason, hardly anyone seems to be able to do it. Then City come along and their players were doing it constantly.

 

So many times I was yelling for offside only to see the replay and realise they were on. Even on those free-kicks when we ALWAYS catch the opposition offside they were continually timing their runs so they were onside, and they should have scored from one of those when Rodri stole in at the back post but put too much on his header across goal that would have led to a tap in for (I think) Laporte.

 

We were riding our luck while offering precious little at the other end. Mo was a non-factor, Sadio couldn’t even stand up and kept slipping over, while Jota did fuck all aside from the goal. He wasted the only other decent opening we had too when he took too long to get his shot away and allowed Laporte to get back and made a spawn challenge. I’m not sure if Jota was wanting to win a pen there or not but the hesitation proved fatal as the chance was gone.

 

City were threatening regularly and eventually made it count when Jesus beat Alisson to the ball and finished really well. I thought he was offside, as we’ve seen that movie so many times this season. I just expected VAR to bail us out but no, Jesus had times his run well and Matip had not got out quick enough. Trent had just about got out quickly enough but had ambled out while everyone else sprinted.

 

Again, there were four City players miles offside but because the ball didn’t go to them under the modern rules that doesn’t matter. Jesus ran from deep and that caught us out. This hardly ever happens to us but it seems clear that City have worked hard on timing their runs. If you get that right, then we’re fucked. It’s worked so well because hardly anyone seems capable of getting it right. City did though. 

 

It was just a sickening goal to concede, but then every goal against them is sickening because of how hard it is to claw it back. I just hate playing them, there’s very little joy in it even when we’re playing well because the tension is unbearable as the stakes are nearly always so high. This was a horrible experience. Saturday will be too, but to a slightly lesser degree because the FA Cup isn’t as important as the title. It’s still really fucking important like and I’m not diminishing how big that game is, just saying that there isn’t quite as much riding on it.

 

Then again, if one of City’s seven remaining opponents can do something against them that changes the importance of this result and could in fact make it a massive point for us. I feel as though it is anyway. It’s not the result I wanted, but coming from behind twice and getting a draw in a game in which we were second best for the majority of it is not something we can complain about. It’s arguably a better point for us than them even though the point is more beneficial to them than us, if that makes sense.

 

What I mean is, if I’m Guardiola I’m frustrated as fuck that my team didn’t win this game and put us out of the picture completely. The point keeps their fate in their own hands, which is obviously good for them, but it also means we’re still right there breathing down their necks waiting for any slip up. If they’d taken their chances and beaten us, the title race would be over. They didn’t, and it isn’t.

 

My half time team talk would have been to lay into them and basically say “That was fucking shit. sStop fucking about and get it to Sadio and Mo early. Get them turned around and play the game in their half. Now get out of my sight”.

 

Thankfully I”m not in charge and we have someone who actually knows what he’s talking about and, more importantly, knows how to get the right response from his players. Apparently Klopp’s team talk wasn’t about the things we were doing wrong, it was more about highlighting and what we did well and encouraging them to do that more.

 

Within a minute of the restart it had paid off as we were level. Great goal too. Hendo’s part in it shouldn’t be overlooked. Firstly he was in a good position to back up the play and pick up the second ball after Trent challenged for a header. Then, and this is the crucial bit, he was aware enough to see that Salah was a yard offside and he didn’t play that obvious pass to him. Instead he gave it Trent. He then gave it to Mo who then picked out a beautiful pass to Sadio who had stolen in behind Walker. What a fucking finish too.

 

Sadio couldn’t do a thing right in the first half but it’s a mark of the man that when he was presented with an opportunity like that he was able to put it away so emphatically. He was phenomenal in the second half, but then everyone (ok, not quite everyone *glares at Jota*) upped their level I thought. For a little ten minute spell after that goal we really had City on the ropes but we couldn’t land the knockout punch. 

 

The closest we came was a Jota snapshot that Ederson saved. Mo had an effort that was heading for the far corner until it deflected inches wide off the thigh of Stones. We didn’t even get a corner for that, even though there was a VAR check for handball! I can forgive Taylor missing it because sometimes from the angle you’re looking at it you can’t always see a deflection. That’s where he needs help from the other officials. There’s no way that they all missed it, but none of them thought to tell him he’d fucked up.

 

I’d been worried about him before the game, and also Tierney on VAR. As it turned out, they were fine. In fact, they had opportunities to screw us over if they’d wanted to, but they chose not to. Thiago and Fabinho between them could have had five or six yellow cards, and on another day Fabinho might have seen red for a studs up challenge that got Bernardo just above the ankle. I’m not saying that should have been a red, but there’s probably a 50-50 chance that you will get sent off for that. 

 

I have no complaints about Taylor or Tierney, and I’d even go as far as to say I think Taylor did pretty damn well considering the high stakes of the game and the pressure involved. He tried to let it flow and he only produced cards when it was absolutely necessary. Much as I don’t like him, there are a number of refs who I’d much rather be kept away from our games than him.

 

As I said though, we just couldn’t take advantage of that good spell we had and it kind of fizzled out. We weren’t helped by Jota though. Fuck me he was terrible. He just kept passing the ball straight to City players and putting us on the back foot. I’d have hooked him a good ten minutes before he eventually made way for Diaz. 

 

It could just as easily have been Firmino who got the nod but I can see the attraction in the Diaz choice, not least because it allowed Sadio to be more influential by playing in the centre where there was more space and he wasn’t having to constantly run against the fastest player in the league.

 

Diaz didn’t really do much though and with the benefit of hindsight I might have gone with Bobby instead. He did eventually get on for the last five minutes or so. Naby got a run out as well, as he replaced Hendo for the last 15. Not sure I agreed with that one. Thiago was a more obvious choice to go off as he looked like he was going to get sent off. Fabinho too for that matter. 

 

While I felt that we had more control of the game in the second half and looked the more likely winner, the best chances still fell to City. The difference between this and the first half was that their chances didn’t come because they had us under pressure. I didn’t really feel we were under much pressure after the break but they still carried a threat, mainly because of that fucking De Bruyne.

 

He’s the only City player I have any time for, but if I’m being completely honest I still don’t like the cunt. He seems like a top lad, he’s never been anything other than complimentary and respectful about our team and the fans, but I don’t like him and it’s completely because he’s so fucking good and he plays for them. There’s nothing bad I can say about the guy, but he’s fucking brilliant and he hurts us whenever we face him. So he can fuck right off.

 

The biggest moment of the second half was definitely the disallowed Sterling goal. I thought it was miles offside but because the linesman didn’t flag I was fearing the worst. They usually get those right so I knew it must have been really tight. And it was, but he was just offside because he was leaning forward and was just ahead of the heel of the last defender (Matip once again).

 

What I didn’t like about that though was Jesus was fucking miles off and it looks to me like that’s who De Bruyne was playing it to. Maybe he was picking out Sterling, but it looks to me as though he’s playing that ball for Jesus who is off. So our defenders are paying more attention to him than Sterling, but then Jesus stops and lets Sterling run onto the ball.

 

So again, correct decision under the modern laws to not flag Jesus off, but I still hate that as morally it’s offside to me.

 

Thankfully Sterling was just off and we did not have to summon up a third equaliser. I suspect that would have been beyond us but who knows. 

 

My gut feeling was that might be a pivotal moment in the game and that if anyone was going to win it, it would be us. We just didn’t really create enough though despite having good possession in their half, and then right at the end we almost got done.

 

Proper heart in mouth shit that was. Once again, De Bruyne split the defence with a brilliant ball that sent Mahrez clear. He cut inside onto his left foot and with Alisson having come flying out to try and put him off, Mahrez attempted to chip him. Good decision and if he’d been able to execute that it would have been a certain goal.

 

The ball went sailing over the bar and initially I thought he’d just overcooked the chip. Turns out that Matip got something on it and that proved to be a goal saving block from him.

 

So in the end, honours even and only time will tell if it’s a good result or not. If City win out then obviously this might be seen as a missed opportunity, but can we really say that? We can’t expect to go there and win and ordinarily a draw here is sound. But that fucking Leicester game….

  

Anyway, as I say, let’s see how the final games play out. I’m just glad we didn’t lose this because we probably should have. I am a bit disheartened by the way we don’t seem to really be able to hurt City the way we could a few years back when we’d have those explosive spells where we could blow them away. That hasn’t happened for ages now.

 

Something else that I want to address is that twat Martin Tyler. Honesty, I know everyone goes on about him but he’s getting worse. It isn’t deliberate and I don’t even think it’s a conscious thing. You can’t really fake what he’s doing, it’s just his natural emotion and reaction to things that gives away just how much he’s wanting us to lose. I’m not saying it’s always been like that, it hasn’t. “Collymore closing iiiiiinnnnnnnnn” was an iconic bit of commentary that did the moment justice.

 

In recent years though his agenda has become glaringly obvious. The excitement in his voice when the opposition have a chance or score. The indifference when it’s us. There were so many examples of it in this game but the one moment that stood out was when the ball fell to Grealish in our box. Not in an especially threatening position mind, but Tyler sounded like he was about to go into a full orgasm as he yelled “GREALISH!!!!” before absolutely fuck all came of it. As I say, that’s pure, natural, instinct. He doesn’t do it deliberately but it absolutely betrays the emotion he’s feeling.

 

Quite why anyone would be rooting for them cheating cunts is absolutely beyond me, but Tyler was absolutely hoping for a City win there. The sooner he retires the better, he’s so bad he’s got me pining for that old goat Motson.

 

Anyway, the result means it’s advantage City now. They’ll probably win every game now because they’ve done it before and there are only really two games where they might encounter any sort of resistance. West Ham and Wolves could give them some problems, but no-one else will. Some will look to the romance aspect of Stevie denying them on the last day to hand the title to us, but there’s one major stumbling block there. Aston Villa are fucking shit, and even if they weren’t, I find that “never, EVER, rely on Aston Villa for anything” is a smart policy to live one’s life by.

 

So all we can do is try to win our games and then hope for the best. In the meantime we have what should be a routine second leg against Benfica and then we have to do it all over again with City next weekend. Will that be more of the same or will things be different this time? They’ve got a tougher midweek test than us so that helps, but I fear that if we try to play them the same way we have the last few times then we’re in trouble, because they’ve got the answer to it now. So, basically we need to come up with a different question.

 

Star man is… fuck, I don’t even know. I thought Thiago was our best player in the first half but then he was lucky to not get sent off in a somewhat erratic second half. Sadio was horrendous in the first half but brilliant in the second. Matip and Van Dijk were probably our most dependable over the course of the whole game but neither were faultless. If pushed I’d go with Virgil but I don’t feel especially strongly about it.

 

 

Team: Alisson; Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Van Dijk, Robertson; Fabinho, Henderson (Keita), Thiago; Salah, Jota (Diaz), Mané (Firmino):

 


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Good report Dave. I thought we were absolutely shocking in that first half. Sadio, Trent, Robbo and Fabinho all slipping on their arses yet I dont recall seeing any city players doing it. Wear. Some. Fucking. Proper. Studs. FFS!

 

City crowded us as we wanted to play the ball around the back and we were just inviting trouble. Not for the first time away at city I have to ask why were our players not ready for this?

 

The inevitable happened, We gave a foul away under pressure (Fabinho?) then was slow to react to city taking the free kick quickly. And yet again, an oppo has a shot outside the box and surprise, surprise, after buying a ticket in the lotto, wins a prize with yet another deflected goal off Matip.

 

If this was Skrtel deflecting shots into the net some people would be losing their shit. Joel, stop sticking your foot, knee, leg, whatever in the way of the shot if you're not fully blocking the thing!

 

I'll tell you something else that fucking annoys me, the number of times Robbo, Trent, Hendo, Fabinho, Jota and one or two others rush the oppo with the ball but never come away with it. Have we lost the art of tackling or what?

 

2 well taken goals by us but 10 minutes after scoring each, we seemed to retreat back into our shells. In the last 10 minutes, I thought we might nick it only to see Mahrez break through the offside trap and just have Alli to beat. Alli's reputation must have put him off or he wanted to be a prize cock winning the game with a cheeky chip.

 

Thankfully the cunt got it all wrong.

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Tyler instantly started looking for some reason for our first goal to be disallowed too. When he saw Mane in an offside position in the buildup you could hear the hope in his voice, and I got the impression that he was about to make a big thing of it before Neville quickly cut in and dismissed it. I'm sure it's not a coincidence that him getting worse in our games has occurred as we've become more successful. It was probably a lot easier to appear impartial when we were rarely threatening to win anything. 

 

A much improved second half but our passing was still infuriating at times in the final 20 minutes. It seemed like every dangerous City moment came from us giving the ball away cheaply. Hopefully Athletico take a lot out of them on Wednesday and that becomes a factor in the cup semi final. The Benfica game for us should be straightforward enough and surely has to be seen as being an opportunity to give a few players a rest. 

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Worryingly, we've been second best to them or a few years now

We were lucky again yesterday

Fab was especially terrible and we looked nervous and disjointed

Klopp needs to try something else this weekend... we're losing the initiative 

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City took a quick free-kick, about six yards away from where the foul took place. 

 

Fail too see how the ref allows that. How many times do we see a ref go all, it's not from there, move the ball back, no, back some more? Quick free kick I get, but from the right place.

 

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30 minutes ago, mike23 said:

Tyler instantly started looking for some reason for our first goal to be disallowed too. When he saw Mane in an offside position in the buildup you could hear the hope in his voice, and I got the impression that he was about to make a big thing of it before Neville quickly cut in and dismissed it. I'm sure it's not a coincidence that him getting worse in our games has occurred as we've become more successful. It was probably a lot easier to appear impartial when we were rarely threatening to win anything. 

 

 

Yeah I noticed that in Tyler's commentary. He's an absolute twat. Wycombe fan my hairy arse!

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I just can’t have your whole Leicester thing, Dave. You’re absolutely right in everything you say about what a shit result it was and yet when the margins are so fine every week in a competition  as ridiculously intense as the PL, it’s understandable that we have one or two proper shite days.
 

It’s actually pretty remarkable that we don’t have more though to be honest, because for pretty much the entire history of the English top flight, that’s been the norm. Even with that utter shit show we’re still light years better than anyone else who preceded us bar the cheating cunts out in front. 
 

So that performance and result is only shite because we’re trying to keep pace with cheats. And that’s not on us. 

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Dave has his Leicester, mine is the 2 or 3 blatantly dreadful decisions made in city games that could well turn out to be the difference at the end of the season.

 

Imagine being in this Liverpool team and losing not through some fault in their own performances but by the hand of some incompetent/biased bastards.

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We were sleeping on their first goal, which was unforgivable (although as DaylanPete mentions above it wasnt where the foul was). Plus it took a massive deflection. And the second goal was sloppy. 

 

I know we could have shipped a couple more goals, but the goals they did score weren't exactly world class. Which is disappointing in a way - we had to work really hard to score our goals, and they were gifted theirs. Infuriating. 

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Meant to post this here instead of the other thread -

 

I dont agree with the narrative that Pep has figured us out. In the last 6 games we've played against City, they've won 2 and we've won 1. The others being 3 draws. Yes, they were probably the better team across the two draws this season but they still didnt beat us. We caused them enough problems each game.

 

The two they won in the last 6 include the

4-0 after we had won the league (some of our players still looked hungover). The 2nd win was at an empty Anfield with us missing Van Dijk and a couple other key players. 6 games and only 2 wins which have an asterisk. That doesnt qualify as "Pep has us figured out" in my opinion. Hope I'm not jinxing the FA cup semifinal now though.

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1 minute ago, Supremolad said:

Meant to post this here instead of the other thread -

 

I dont agree with the narrative that Pep has figured us out. In the last 6 games we've played against City, they've won 2 and we've won 1. The others being 3 draws. Yes, they were probably the better team across the two draws this season but they still didnt beat us. We caused them enough problems each game.

 

The two they won in the last 6 include the

4-0 after we had won the league (some of our players still looked hungover). The 2nd win was at an empty Anfield with us missing Van Dijk and a couple other key players. 6 games and only 2 wins which have an asterisk. That doesnt qualify as "Pep has us figured out" in my opinion. Hope I'm not jinxing the FA cup semifinal now though.

I posted my reply in the other thread.

 

Go and read it over there.

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Also, City got caught offsides 5 times during the game. There were 2 or 3 other times the linesman didnt even raise his flag which were also offside decisions.

 

So I think they shouldnt be given too much praise for getting in behind on a few occasions. Our high line still did a decent job to catch them out at least 7 or 8 times.

 

They dont relish playing us, the same way we dont relish playing them. Guardiola repeatedly says we are an annoying pain in the ass for him. Let's not go overboard with credit to them, Dave. Yes our first half was poor but they still failed to put us away while we were more clinical with our chances.

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I think we like city should be more pragmatic in this game, its good we stick to our guns but even City don't against us. No short passes out from the back be more direct, spurs had their number although I'm a bit worried spurs may have ours too with how precise and clinical Kane and Son are playing.

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9 hours ago, Paul said:

I just can’t have your whole Leicester thing, Dave. You’re absolutely right in everything you say about what a shit result it was and yet when the margins are so fine every week in a competition  as ridiculously intense as the PL, it’s understandable that we have one or two proper shite days.
 

It’s actually pretty remarkable that we don’t have more though to be honest, because for pretty much the entire history of the English top flight, that’s been the norm. Even with that utter shit show we’re still light years better than anyone else who preceded us bar the cheating cunts out in front. 
 

So that performance and result is only shite because we’re trying to keep pace with cheats. And that’s not on us. 

Yep. I mean, you could just as easily argue that the only reason Liverpool are anywhere near City is because they drew with Southampton. Twice. 

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Spot on report, Dave. I share your view 100%. 

It`s like a chess game between Klopp and Guardiola. Pep has found a way to dominate games against us. Now it is time for Jurgen to come up with some tactical moves that can swing the games against them back in our favour. 

 

Anyway; what we can hope for now is beating them in the FA-cup and CL, which probably means that we win both, and it will make this a fanatstic season, regardless of the outcome of the league

 

Let’s face it; the league title is gone. I still have mental scars from the 18/19-season where they were one single point in front with 14 games to play. Not one of the useless other teams bothered/managed to take one fucking point from them during those 14 matches. It still makes me angry to think about it. With the program they have left, it is very unlikely that they will lose points. The only team that is capable to take points from them in a situation like this is us.

 

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11 hours ago, Paul said:

I just can’t have your whole Leicester thing, Dave. You’re absolutely right in everything you say about what a shit result it was and yet when the margins are so fine every week in a competition  as ridiculously intense as the PL, it’s understandable that we have one or two proper shite days.
 

It’s actually pretty remarkable that we don’t have more though to be honest, because for pretty much the entire history of the English top flight, that’s been the norm. Even with that utter shit show we’re still light years better than anyone else who preceded us bar the cheating cunts out in front. 
 

So that performance and result is only shite because we’re trying to keep pace with cheats. And that’s not on us. 

The Leicester result hurts because we missed a pen but for me the draw with Brighton from 2 up was piss poor. Lets also not forget the ridiculous pen decisions v Wolves and Everton in the  oil cheats favour. That's a 4 point swing in those 2 games alone.

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Great to have your match reports again Dave.

 

A few things came to mind watching the game. Firstly Klopp got the selection wrong. Fabinho is getting stick for having a bad game which is true but we have always been good at defending from the front and not playing Bobby was in effect taking away our best defender up front. This meant that City could play thrrough and get the ball in to KDB who killed us with his ability on the ball.

 

Secondly Ali all round game is very good especially positionally and shot stopping but his distribution is his weakest part and his calmness with the ball at his feet borders on lackadaisical which puts others under pressure. City have sussed thsi and they play the highest of high presses against us. It wouldnt harm for the first 10 minutes having played around at the back one or twice to then put your foot through it rather than getting stuck in ever decreasing circles which leads to a turnover in a more dangerous place.

 

On a more positive note going forward I though we looked dangerous throughout the whole match and they were very wary of us so the key has to be to get more possession and move it forward quicker against these.

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1 hour ago, CapeRed said:

The Leicester result hurts because we missed a pen but for me the draw with Brighton from 2 up was piss poor. Lets also not forget the ridiculous pen decisions v Wolves and Everton in the  oil cheats favour. That's a 4 point swing in those 2 games alone.

Yeah, the Brighton draw and the Brentford away draw are the games that annoy me.  

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12 hours ago, Jimmy Hills Chin said:

Dave has his Leicester, mine is the 2 or 3 blatantly dreadful decisions made in city games that could well turn out to be the difference at the end of the season.

 

Imagine being in this Liverpool team and losing not through some fault in their own performances but by the hand of some incompetent/biased bastards.

 

I have those too mate, the Everton and Wolves ones especially. Those aren't anything we can control though. Beating Leicester was, so that's why it's my focus.

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11 hours ago, Supremolad said:

Meant to post this here instead of the other thread -

 

I dont agree with the narrative that Pep has figured us out. In the last 6 games we've played against City, they've won 2 and we've won 1. The others being 3 draws. Yes, they were probably the better team across the two draws this season but they still didnt beat us. We caused them enough problems each game.

 

The two they won in the last 6 include the

4-0 after we had won the league (some of our players still looked hungover). The 2nd win was at an empty Anfield with us missing Van Dijk and a couple other key players. 6 games and only 2 wins which have an asterisk. That doesnt qualify as "Pep has us figured out" in my opinion. Hope I'm not jinxing the FA cup semifinal now though.

 

I'm basing it on the eye test as much as (if not more than) the actual results.

 

I used to fancy us to steamroller them. Now it's clear we can't do that and we're having to scramble to stay with them.

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2 hours ago, deiseach said:

Yep. I mean, you could just as easily argue that the only reason Liverpool are anywhere near City is because they drew with Southampton. Twice. 

And took 1 point vs Palace ….

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2 hours ago, Judge said:

Spot on report, Dave. I share your view 100%. 

It`s like a chess game between Klopp and Guardiola. Pep has found a way to dominate games against us. Now it is time for Jurgen to come up with some tactical moves that can swing the games against them back in our favour. 

 

Anyway; what we can hope for now is beating them in the FA-cup and CL, which probably means that we win both, and it will make this a fanatstic season, regardless of the outcome of the league

 

Let’s face it; the league title is gone. I still have mental scars from the 18/19-season where they were one single point in front with 14 games to play. Not one of the useless other teams bothered/managed to take one fucking point from them during those 14 matches. It still makes me angry to think about it. With the program they have left, it is very unlikely that they will lose points. The only team that is capable to take points from them in a situation like this is us.

 

They aren’t as good as that year. They are going to drop points, but can we make 21 out 7 while still competing in CL ?

 

They are very strong mentally, like us, but they should have won that game and therefore the league Sunday. I’m sure there mad about  that. 

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Great report Dave. I wanted Mane subbed at half time I thought he was dreadful but fair to him great goal and he was much better in second half.

Every  second of that match was horrible to watch….my stress levels hit new heights. To think we have to go through it all again on Saturday. I’m praying they get knocked out in Champs league as I don’t want to play them in Paris if we get there !

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