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Report: Liverpool refute Duncan claims

Liverpool have strongly refuted claims made by the agent of exciting youngster Bobby Duncan.

Saif Rubie is the representative of Duncan and outlined a catalogue of issues regarding Duncan, with one of the startling claims stating that he had been kept at the Reds against his will.

The Dubai-based Rubie who has looked after Kolo Toure and former Chelsea and West Ham manager Avram Grant in the past, claimed in a long statement on Twitter that the striker would never play for Liverpool again and was suffering from mental health issues.

Rubie strongly criticised the sporting director Michael Edwards and was angry that the club refused loan moves to Fiorentina and Danish club FC Nordsjaelland.

“For a player with zero first team experience, no clubs were prepared to pay an outright reasonable fee for a player they got for £200,000 last summer.

“With that in mind we have been able to find clubs that were ready to take Bobby on a season-long loan with a option to buy for amounts of £1.5million upwards which is a great return for the club on a player who will never play for the Liverpool first team and who doesn’t want to be there.

“The club and Michael Edwards specifically made it clear that that kind of deal wouldn’t work.

“So then myself and my team worked even harder and managed to get a deal on the table for a loan with an obligation to buy after five starts with a higher transfer fee than before and a sell-on to Liverpool.

“Putting all of that aside, the real reason Bobby missed the Under-23 game (against Southampton) on Monday is because he has suffered some deep mental health issues with all the stress the club has put him under. 

“Stress of being told he can leave but then going out of their way to force him to stay against his will.

“Not only is he on a very small salary but he also has one season left on his contract after this one and Liverpool have flatly said he will not get a new one.  

“Bobby has not left his room for four days because of this and will never go back to Liverpool again and my only concern now is his mental health and well being.

“This is not really dignified behaviour from a club with the rich history of Liverpool and one who one of their greatest ever players Steven Gerrard happens to be Bobby’s cousin.

“It’s a sad state of afford that a club such as a Liverpool can be allowed to get away with destroying the life of a young man such as Bobby.”

 

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Understandably the club came out with all guns blazing and put out this statement as reported by the Liverpool Echo.

“Liverpool Football Club is aware of and disappointed by the unattributed comments and unfounded allegations that have been made in the media regarding one of our players.

“As the interests of the player in question are not best served by either inaccurate speculation, inflammatory statements or public discourse, we will be making no further comment.

“ We will, however, continue our efforts to work privately with the player to find resolution in the best interests of all involved."

Duncan is a supreme poacher at the under age level where he scored 32 goals for the U/18s in all competitions last season, and previously broke many records when on the books of former club Man City.

 is just a sad and sorry situation all round and let us hope it has a satisfactory conclusion.





 

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6 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

He's going to be behind Patrick Cutrone now as well. 

I've never heard of the cunt and I suspect Bobby Duncan hasn't either. I will be the happier of the two in my ignorance.

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On 06/01/2020 at 14:54, Lizzie Birdsworths Wrinkled Chopper said:

On the patience note, Klopp said yesterday Jones would be a Liverpool player 100%, “unless something strange happened”. No doubt injuries would be one of the potential things he meant, could another be losing patience, and a little nod to Duncan?

 

No sleight at Curtis Jones there, know nothing about him or his attitude. But he was very open in his BBC interview about being desperate to play and didn't quite sing from the usual hymn sheet.
 

It just made me think what a job it must be in itself to convince super talented young players ready for first team football somewhere to keep plugging away and waiting for their chance when they’re champing at the bit.

Re: the post match interview. He's only a kid and will have had none of (or little) media training I'm guessing so just answered the questions honestly. As you say, it wasn't the usual bland platitudes. He certainly thinks a lot of himself! Would be great to have another wonderkid like. 

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10 minutes ago, johnsusername said:

Re: the post match interview. He's only a kid and will have had none of (or little) media training I'm guessing so just answered the questions honestly. As you say, it wasn't the usual bland platitudes. He certainly thinks a lot of himself! Would be great to have another wonderkid like. 

Definitely mate. 

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On 06/01/2020 at 15:18, Lee909 said:

Yeah playing each week and European football wouldn't help them at all. 

Did you see Ryan Kent behaving like an absolute gobshite last week? I'd rather our players were kept out of that environment, personally...

 

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On 06/01/2020 at 14:55, Lee909 said:

I'm hoping that the club uses Gerrard to help blood some of these kids. A year in Scotland would help alot of these kids even if it would kill Bjornebye 

 

 

The european experience would be invaluable but playing against rag arse rovers most weeks would be a hindrance. That is a bit of a dilemma for the club and potential loanees.

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1 hour ago, Josef Svejk said:

Right...

Is there anything else he's done?  What makes him a gobshite other than getting offended by a pretty commonplace gesture?

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I said he was behaving like a gobshite - by goading opposition fans in one of the nastiest derbies going. Which he was. In the grand tradition of Artur Boruc and a variety of other Old Firm twats...

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20 hours ago, Josef Svejk said:

Did you see Ryan Kent behaving like an absolute gobshite last week? I'd rather our players were kept out of that environment, personally...

 

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Bit stupid for a player from either side to be making gun signs at the crowd in an Old Firm derby.

 

Almost as bad as wearing socks over his knees.

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14 hours ago, El Rojo said:

Bit stupid for a player from either side to be making gun signs at the crowd in an Old Firm derby.

 

Almost as bad as wearing socks over his knees.

Socks over the knees should be a bookable offence - one in each half. 
 

Come out for kick off with socks over knees - booking

 

Come our second half with socks over knees - sending off

 

Ever do it again - banned from wearing socks for 3 games and forced to wear shinnies on their own like when you forgot your socks for footy at school.

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Well,well, well,no surprise here. The lad's a complete dick. He has all the makings of the 2nd Ravel Morrison.

 

Bobby Duncan has ditched the agent who helped force his move out of Liverpool last year.

Duncan courted controversy in August when his desire to leave the Reds was made public in an incendiary social media post from then agent Saif Rubie.

Rubie took a swipe at Liverpool sporting director Michael Edwards and claimed the player had "suffered some deep mental health issues with all the stress the club has put him under" after the Reds turned down an initial approach from Fiorentina.

 

Liverpool, who strongly denied the allegations, ultimately reached an agreement with the Italian side a few days later for a £1.8million fee with a 20% sell-on clause included in the terms.

But now 18-year-old Duncan, who has changed agents several times already during his fledgling career, has announced he will be represented by German SportsTotal agency.

Duncan will be represented by the firm’s CEO Sascha Breese, who can count Real Madrid's Toni Kroos among his personal clients.

 

The forward has yet to make an appearance for the Fiorentina first team but has scored four times in nine appearances for their under-19 side, although his last goal came in October. He is now expected to pursue a loan move this month in order to gain senior experience elsewhere.

Rubie, meanwhile, is currently serving a five-week ban imposed by the Football Association after being found guilty of historic improper use of social media.

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bobby-duncan-splits-controversial-agent-17537046

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He’s changed advisors as often as he has clubs. He wasn’t with that Rubie prick when he left City the summer prior and it sounds like Fiorentina are another short stop off.

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Fiorentina just saw what was happening in Germany and fancied the idea of flipping him for a few quid. They'd never lose money on him and if it worked they'd see millions in profit. 

 

The agent saw the chance to get a slice of the fee, move him on and then move him again a year later. 

 

The lads been badly advised but seems he's getting bad advice from home, agents the lot. 

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On 06/01/2020 at 14:55, Lee909 said:

I'm hoping that the club uses Gerrard to help blood some of these kids. A year in Scotland would help alot of these kids even if it would kill Bjornebye 

 

 

Going on Carra podcast with Stevie it seems like there is a very good relationship between him and Klopp (getting advise and sharing the reasoning behind tactical decisions)  so wouldn’t be surprised if a few of the kids ended up there. 

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Im not sure about Scottish League regulations but in England, a club can only take one loanee from the parent club per season ie no one English club could have 2 Liverpool loanees in their squad at the same time.

 

So unless there's no such rule in Scotland, it would only be one at a time and have to agreed to the player playing in something like 75% of first team games. They're the same conditions we apply to any of the young lads going out on loan. If they dont play, the club doing the loan has to pay us an additional fee.

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