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Klopp: Any forced postponement should see Liverpool claim three points

Any repeat of Manchester United supporters forcing the postponement of the fixture tomorrow evening should see Liverpool awarded the three points according to Jurgen Klopp.

 

A unwanted chapter in the storied rivalry between the two teams was written in May last year when a group of unruly protesters found their way into Old Trafford and stormed the pitch in what was set to be a fixture played behind closed doors due to pandemic restrictions.

 

It led to the first game being postponed in Premier League history due to fan protests, and when the two teams met a month later, the security presence was ramped up substantially and Liverpool walked away with a 4-2 victory.

 

More than a year down the track and with the home team remaining in a seemingly never ending state of malaise, fans are planning to make their voices heard once again albeit organisers are pleading for it to go off without any issues.

 

The main protest group '1958' put out a rally call in the lead up saying “We will plant our flag as a focal point. Be loud, be proud, stand as one!

 

“We appreciate emotions are running high. We must keep it legal, we must keep it peaceful, we don’t want any Reds getting lifted and giving the Glazer propaganda machine a chance to spin the narrative.

 

‘Bring the heat, bring the noise, bring the passion. Let’s show the Glazer family that this time it will not blow over.”

 

While focussed on his own team and getting their first three points on the board this season, the Liverpool manager is aware of what is being planned.

 

And with the congested football calendar the way it is, he does not any part of this fixture lingering, he wants it out of the way one way or another as the Echo reported.

 

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“Do we have any plans for the game not happening? We are going home in the bus. I really hope it will not happen, but if it does happen I think we should get the points.

 

“We have nothing to do with the situation. If that happens and the supporters want the game to be not happening, then we cannot just rearrange the game again and fit it in somewhere at an incredibly busy time. I don't think and I really hope this will not happen.

 

Just like most logical thinking Football fans, Klopp hopes the match goes off without any hitches, but if it not to be the case, he is adamant in his thinking.

 

"I have no idea what could happen, I don't think about it. People tell us things will be fine so we will go there, play the game hopefully and go home. 

 

But if in a situation like this, always the other team should get the points because they have nothing to do with it. They have prepared the game."

 

While emotions will be on edge for the fans and officials of the home side, Klopp is unwilling to give any sympathy to his opposite number after a tough opening to his Premier League managerial career saying it would be exactly the same if the shoe was on the other foot.

 

“It’s not necessary to feel sympathy for Ten Hag. If it’s football problems, we have problems. I am not sure you would go to Manchester United and ask them if we have too many injuries.

 

"The football world is a sea of sharks. For me to have sympathy will not help or harm them. We all have our problems and that’s it.’”

 

 

 

 

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I'm glad klopp has brought this up. It will be interesting to see the media's reaction. Klopp is absolutely right and we should be awarded the game. I don't believe that will ever happen though, not because they're who they are, but because this is the biggest club fixture of the premier League and there's no way it won't go ahead at some point, as they won't want to piss off all of the global TV audience and TV companies. It's one thing to point at Middlesbrough and Blackburn 20 years ago or whenever it was. But things were different then and it was Middlesbrough and Blackburn, which will have had a global audience of none..

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It reads like a message aimed at the United fans rather than the Premier League. I don't think he is questioning their fans' right to protest, but he's making it clear that he does not want to see a repeat of 2 seasons ago when their protests directly caused our game to be postponed. Remember that not only did the United fans break into Old Trafford which was a serious security breach in itself, but they attacked a police officer and also ambushed the LFC coach (which was a decoy coach if I recall, with the players and staff arriving in a coach like the one used for the Jolly Boys Outing!). That original game was scheduled for the Sunday afternoon 4:30pm kick off but this one is scheduled for 8:00pm on Monday night. There is no room for a delayed kick-off.

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That’s how far this once great club has fallen.

 

1 point above the relegation zone, as the manager prays for some pissed up Mancs to do what his coaching cannot, and get us 3 points. 
 

Just glad Origi isn’t here to see this sorry state of affairs.

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If anything happens then I hope LFC demand the away game be played behind closed doors in future.  

Can't be having this nonsense every season, City may as well be paying them to disrupt us. 

 

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45 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I actually disagree with him. It’s not their team’s fault. 

No but I don’t see why our team should have to take being messed around again in a busy schedule and with potentially players unavailable.

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I'm with Klopp. If their fans want to protest outside or inside the ground then fine, but if they get another fixture against us postponed the club should forfeit the match. A real deterrent. A fine wouldn't matter a fuck for a club with their money.

 

It's a big inconvenience for us having to fit another game into an already tight fixture list, and it sets a bad precedent if fans of any club feel they can get games called off if, for what ever reason, they don't fancy it. In this instance, imagine if they got the game postponed, and the rearranged fixture took place when they've got another two or three singings in and we've lost a couple more to injury.

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20 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

If anything happens then I hope LFC demand the away game be played behind closed doors in future.  

Can't be having this nonsense every season, City may as well be paying them to disrupt us. 

 

Fuck that. They actually played better when there were no fans. 

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1 hour ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I actually disagree with him. It’s not their team’s fault. 

No if they fail to fulfil the fixture this time a second time against their biggest rivals then it should be 3 points to us and see if they try it again. Protest by all means, walk out the ground do everything they can but don't stop the buses, don't try and prevent the game going ahead or your team will be the one that pays the price not the other team.

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1 hour ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I actually disagree with him. It’s not their team’s fault. 

It's their club's fault though. They have a responsibility to host a game safely. If they're unable to do that, it's their failure and it will be the 2nd time in 3 seasons. I care little one way or the other about what they're protesting about, but the Salford club need to to ensure no matter what happens, the game goes ahead safely. 

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41 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

It's their club's fault though. They have a responsibility to host a game safely. If they're unable to do that, it's their failure and it will be the 2nd time in 3 seasons. I care little one way or the other about what they're protesting about, but the Salford club need to to ensure no matter what happens, the game goes ahead safely. 

I dunno, I just feel like they can't help what the fans do around the ground or on the roads away from the ground. Don't get me wrong, I'd happily take the three points but if it was snow or something, they wouldn't forfeit. The club don't have control over the way the fans act. I dunno, I see your point and I get it. I don't have a solid counterargument other than 'it doesn't feel right to punish the team for the actions of the fans'. 

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Just now, Numero Veinticinco said:

I dunno, I just feel like they can't help what the fans do around the ground or on the roads away from the ground. Don't get me wrong, I'd happily take the three points but if it was snow or something, they wouldn't forfeit. The club don't have control over the way the fans act. I dunno, I see your point and I get it. I don't have a solid counterargument other than 'it doesn't feel right to punish the team for the actions of the fans'. 

For me it is simple. People can be controlled and snow can't..so if there's massive snowfall right before the game that makes it unsafe, the game would rightly be called off. The only option to that would be to play behind closed doors, but chances are in that situation you still need to get the match on the pitch with that weather. 

 

If Salford and the GMP feel so many of their fans will make it unsafe to get the game ahead, they should already have contingencies in place on how to get the players and officials into the ground to ensure the match is played, even if that includes without fans. Their fans are entitled to protest as much as they like and that can include their aim to be stop the match being played. But there should be consequences for their club of they are unable to host a game. 

 

 

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Their fans are protesting for the life of the club, it's very existence is at stake, it's now or never - surely they don't care about three measly points - if anything they should be proud to forfeit.

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29 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I dunno, I just feel like they can't help what the fans do around the ground or on the roads away from the ground. 

That would give licence to any group of fans to stop a game if, say, the team was in an injury crisis and the points were vital for the title or avoiding relegation. The responsibility is not with the team but it is with the club. It's not as if it's a secret that will suddenly be revealed at 7.45pm tomorrow. It's been known about for ages, and it's down to the club to liaise with whomever else to ensure the game gets played.

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Have they been sanctioned for last time and Im not talking a slap on the wrist? The PL is utter shite.

 

We've had chelsea and city now everton and newcastle getting away with financial irregularities for years. united fans brazenly postponing the showpiece PL fixture, celebrating it and nothing is done.

 

A club would get sanctioned more for fielding an ineligible player!

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I don't think they should lose the points either just for protesting, if it fucks the game up though so that it has to be played again there should definitely be some punishment that's not just some shitty little fine. Like being forced to play behind closed doors like Colonel said or something. Maybe even several of their home games if they keep doing it too.

 

I've got no issue with them protesting because they're sick of their owners, don't want the game called off though.

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3 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

I don't think they should lose the points either just for protesting, if it fucks the game up though so that it has to be played again there should definitely be some punishment that's not just some shitty little fine. Like being forced to play behind closed doors like Colonel said or something. Maybe even several of their home games if they keep doing it too.

 

I've got no issue with them protesting because they're sick of their owners, don't want the game called off though.

Protesting is fine. A walk out is fine. All perfectly valid. But if they do something that causes the game to be called off, they should be fucked.  

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8 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I actually disagree with him. It’s not their team’s fault. 


It actually is, they protest because they are playing shite. 

Apart from that, its the mancs responsibility to make sure the game can go ahead.

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1 hour ago, Fugitive said:

The should also be docked 40 points and given 10 lashes each… the cunts.

I just cannot help thinking back to the Gillett and Hicks days which were total nightmare not knowing how it will end. So I can understand how their fans feel and kind of feel sorry for them.

 

So make that 20 lashes....

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They were extremely sympathetic to our cause when we were close to going under…

 

Weren't they?

 

So yeah, fuck them. Fuck every last one of them. Dead hard in the face. 

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Let's not forget the consequences of the last time. They essentially forfeited a game against Leicester (a direct rival for 4th) in order to save themselves for us. They tried to screw us twice, this will be try number 3. Add in the fact we have 13 goals in our last 3 games against them and its an easy case to make that they are afraid to play.

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52 minutes ago, TheBitch said:

They were extremely sympathetic to our cause when we were close to going under…

 

Weren't they?

 

So yeah, fuck them. Fuck every last one of them. Dead hard in the face. 

Only they're not going under and not even remotely close to it. They are just shit, as they have always been except for 2 periods in their history under Busby and Ferguson. Before, in between and after those managers they have been shite. They have just reverted to type, and their spoilt cunt fans can't accept that. The Glazers are still spending big money and their finances are sound. The Glazers even went and got the manager most of their fans wanted. Frankly, I don't know why they are even protesting. Just shut up and support your team, cunts.

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