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A View to the Future - Stefan Bajcetic

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In the past couple of seasons, The View to the Future series has travelled to the English lower leagues as TLW have followed the journey of our various loanees. For the first time we get direct insight from a European club in this case how Stefan Bajcetic is progressing courtesy of the Red Bull Salzburg Supporters group.

 

Firstly Tobias Schmied  gives us a complete overview into the current club dynamic of Salzburg where it has been a campaign full of inconsistency and in turn how Bajcetic has adapted to this kind of situation. We also get a progress report on two individuals who have also had connections to the Reds in recent years in Bobby Clark and Pep Lijnders.

 

Then Anton Herbst follows on from Tobias with a succinct analysis about the Bajcetic temperament during in-game situations.

 

Tobias Schmied

 

Stefan Bajcetic has his qualities for sure. But i think i need to give some context surrounding the overall picture of RB Salzburg.

 

Bajcetic and Bobby Clark arrived when Salzburg was in pretty good shape. We had played nine competitive matches and won 7 of them and that includes two rounds of Champions League qualifiers. This was a great start, especially because our last season was a pain in the arse. It was the first season without a single title since 2012/13 and all competitive goals remained unachieved ultimately leading to the sacking of our coach Gerhard Struber.

 

The first international break arrived and our next game (after losing to our rival Rapid Wien before the break) would be Sparta Prague away in the Champions League. We had high hopes for this game. Our offence looked in shape, we played nice football and our struggles in defence seemed to become less and less.

 

It was at this point in time, when Pep Ljinders decided that it was the right time (without them having ever played a single minute in the Austrian Bundesliga) to put both Bajcetic and Clark  into the starting lineup

 

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And it was a completely different game as Sparta dominated. Salzburg suddenly played very insecurely and was completely off their game. The final score was a 3:0 defeat and Salzburg were never really in the game. This game would leave a mark. A 0:0 against a backmarker in WSG would follow, a brief respite was a 4:0 victory against an amateur team in the Austrian Cup  however it didn't bring back the good performances. An expected 2:0 win against Austria Wien (who are near bankruptcy since 2020 and therefore far away from theIr former selves) would follow.

 

However a reality check came in our first Champions League home fixture against French club Brest where we were convincingly thrashed 4-0. In the aftermath that result, the right back Amar Dedic was asked what went wrong after the international break, Dedic was cagey and said he knew the reason but he won't tell it right now.

 

However, it eventually leaked out that the arrival of the two players from Liverpool and them getting a place in the starting lineup against Sparta Prague while the players who won in the Champions League Qualifiers had to sit on the bench caused significant turmoil within the team.

 

The next game we played the team who won the title last season in Sturm Graz. And this time Salzburg would lose 5:0, meaning that within five days Salzburg conceded nine goals and didn't score a single goal - the worst week in club history.

 

Since then we have continued our inconsistency both in the league and in Europe where we are next to no chance to qualify for the CL playoffs but completely out of nowhere last week we produced a win against Feyanoord 3-1.

 

So now we are up to date, and in a nutshell what does all this mean?

 

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Well the important part happened in the middle when i talked about the leaked team atmosphere problem. I think this was a very plausible explanation for the drop-off in form that we experienced in mid September. This means that the arrival of your former youth players led to one of the worst periods in Salzburg history and this leak led to heavy criticism of not only them but also Pep Ljinders.

 

Their ongoing performances weren't great, but they also weren't worse than the rest of the team. They were going along with the flow. Clark for me at least turned out to be much worse than Bajcetic. Clark seems more like a foreign body on the field rather than bringing the technical finesse we hoped we would get. Bajcetic on the other hand seems to get better every game. Even though the performances aren't perfect, at least he is starting to make a positive impact when he comes in.

 

Ultimately it's hard to say where both Clark and Bajcetic are at the moment. Whether their arrival ultimately caused distress within the team remains pure speculation, but it is certain that they didn't have a chance yet to prove themselves within a truly functioning Salzburg team. Therefore it is hard to say how good they really are.

 

Let's hope that the 3:1 win against Feyenoord brings a true upwards trend with it. In a few weeks - if Salzburg gets back in form anyway - we can look at those to players in a more fair way than we are able to at the moment. I wouldn't say Bajcetic is good enough to be a regular Premier League player just yet, but he is definitely starting to improve.

 

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I also want to briefly address how Ljinders is going. The overall answer is mixed: His arrival led to a great start but this seems so far away in time. He is getting heavily criticised at the moment by a lot of fans but the managing director already said that his contract is not being discussed for now.

 

I think sacking him would be the wrong call as his successor would become the fourth Salzburg coach within two years. Sacking this many coaches in such a short period has never been a success story. I think that the problems this time are being caused by our sporting director Bernhard Seonbuchner who is responsible for squad planning.

 

He sold three centre backs without finding a replacement for them. This led to a very insecure defence - a problem that exists till this point of time. Also, our long time captain and team leader Andreas Ulmer retired at the end of last season as one of the only experienced players in the team. 

 

Seonbuchner wasn't bothered to find any player who could bring some form of experience on the table. This played a huge factor I think when Salzburg played against Prague. There was for many players their first real Champions League experience and they all seemed very nervous. Having an experienced player in the team would have helped them a lot.

 

Anton Herbst

 

Stefan Bajcetic has  adapted well to the Austrian Bundesliga and Red Bull Salzburg’s fast-paced style. His calmness on the ball and good understanding of the game are impressive. He works hard, helping both in defence and attack, and his recent goal shows his growing confidence and skill.

 

He could improve by getting stronger to handle bigger and more experienced players better and by making quicker decisions under pressure. These should get better with more experience.

 

Overall, the loan is helping Stefan a lot, and he is developing well. He is gaining valuable experience that will help him return to Liverpool as a more complete player.

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Sounds like Lijnders dropped a bollock throwing two kids in like that.  Turning up in a foreign country and finding yourself the focus of hostility from teammates and fans could break a young player.  Here's hoping they're both strong enough to get through it.

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12 minutes ago, Megadrive Man said:

I think we will sell him in the summer.

 

He's more in the mould of an Endo style holding midfielder and I just don't see how he fits in under Slot sadly. 

Really?

 

I cant really see the comparison myself. There was talk of him being better suited to an 8 when he came through. 

 

I think he is a great prospect, though a serious injury and poor loan may have an impact on the next couple of years.

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1 hour ago, Megadrive Man said:

I think we will sell him in the summer.

 

He's more in the mould of an Endo style holding midfielder and I just don't see how he fits in under Slot sadly. 

Disagree he's an Endo style midfielder. He came through as a centre back, has played defensive midfield and as a box-to-box midfielder. He could be anything yet.

 

The most worrying thing imo was the from little we saw of him post-injury, he seemed to have gone backwards physically. Fraction late into challenges, weak on the ball, easily hurried. When he made those first team appearances in 22/23 he was fantastic at winning the ball back cleanly and retaining possession, it would be amazing for us if he could get back to those levels.

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He’s another youth player that everyone got carried away with.  The injuries have obviously took a big toll on him but he was never going to be good enough.  He took the ball on the turn a few times in those early performances and it perked everyone up because we weren’t used to it.  I doubt we will sell him because I can’t see anyone buying him.  He will end up leaving on a free whenever that arises and be in a similar position to Brewster if he’s lucky but more likely end up as far down as Woodburn.

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The reality is that he's 20 years of age and looks like an average player in the Austrian League.

 

If he was going to make it here he'd need to go to that league and be absolutely storming it and looking miles better than all the rest of his team and his opponents. 

 

Tyler Morton is ahead of him now and he is struggling to get any minutes here. Unless Bajcetic has a massive upturn in form for the rest of the season I can't see him getting another chance here. 

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2 hours ago, Megadrive Man said:

The reality is that he's 20 years of age and looks like an average player in the Austrian League.

 

If he was going to make it here he'd need to go to that league and be absolutely storming it and looking miles better than all the rest of his team and his opponents. 

 

Tyler Morton is ahead of him now and he is struggling to get any minutes here. Unless Bajcetic has a massive upturn in form for the rest of the season I can't see him getting another chance here. 

Sounds like the team is in disarray, though.  A different team and a different manager could suit him much better.

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Really don’t know how anyone could have read that, drawn the conclusion that he’s shit from it and then told everyone else their judgement is bad!!!

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I was never really that impressed with Bajcetic, thought his performances was hyped up a bit too much. 
 

He was doing a job, just like these other youngsters, the only one of them to really impress me in a few games was Bradley, the other ones just filled a spot. 
 

Elliott and Quansah are not included in this. 

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Sending him to that fraud Ljinders was an awful decision, but he has definitely always been a bit overrated. He still has talent, though. There's a chance he makes it.

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Can't see it happening for him sadly, not after that long lay off. The league is a few steps above him at this moment in time and I don't see how we keep him around for another 2-3 years and wait to find out. He has a good career ahead if he can look after himself so the last thing I'd want for him is to go in a similiar trajectory to a Rhys Williams or a Nat Phillips.

 

He filled in well considering no one had the slightest clue who he was 6 months prior, but this came at a time when Fab/Hendo lost their legs and Naby/Ox/Jones were dead - the circumstances are very different now. 

 

 

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Don't think he makes it here, but hopefully he can have a decent career, like that skillful but slow Spanish lad from a few years back whose name eludes me.

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10 minutes ago, sir roger said:

Don't think he makes it here, but hopefully he can have a decent career, like that skillful but slow Spanish lad from a few years back whose name eludes me.

 

Chirivella? Canos?

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He has been at Salzburg for less than three months and is gradually rebuilding his form. After losing about a year of his development, at a very sensitive stage and then struggling for a couple of months here. He is still only 20. Way too early to write him off.

 

 

 

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On 14/11/2024 at 09:45, Megadrive Man said:

I think we will sell him in the summer.

 

He's more in the mould of an Endo style holding midfielder and I just don't see how he fits in under Slot sadly. 

I look at Gravenberch as a "slot success" Stefan is a similar style player, massive time off with Injury but a star quality about him, composed technical great with the ball and without it also very intelligent player I think he is the perfect Slot player, needed game time to get fit  sharp and experience. Going with Pep might have been an error but no doubting his quality and if he stays fit, regains his undoubted quality we have a real player.

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