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Would you take Mascherano back?

    In August 2010 Javier Mascherano left Anfield somewhat under a cloud amidst rumours he had refused to play in a game at Manchester City in order to force through a move to Barcelona. 'Homesickness' was cited as his main reason for wanting out, but according to reports in Spain this week he's now set to leave Camp Nou this summer and favours a move back to Merseyside over a reunion with Rafa Benitez at Napoli. Should we take him back? Three of our top writers give us their view...


The simple answer is yes because I'd pretty much trust Brendan Rodgers' judgement over anything after last season, never mind whether or not to sign a player who jibbed us off a few years ago; and if Brendan thinks there's a place for him here, then that's good enough for me. I thought his behaviour on the way out of the Anfield door was questionable, but then again, if I was him, I'd have wanted to join Pep's Barca. The thing is he doesn't play for Pep's Barca any more does he? The new Pep's Barca is Brendan's Liverpool and who wouldn't want to get on board that particular bandwagon? So I can deffo see what's in it for him.

 

As for what's in it for us, that's slightly less obvious than it once would've been because we no longer play with a *cringes at the over-used and highly crass football manager shorthand* "DM", which is what he was when last here. Brendan rightly prefers a player who can control the entire game in that position on the pitch and, even if we didn't have Steven Gerrard at his imperious best currently fulfilling that role, it's not one Mascherano is capable of anyway. Furthermore, the idea that he could play centre half in England is utterly risible; he'd be had for breakfast by even the worst strikers the Championship is currently preparing to send our way.

 

So if not in those two positions, where? Well I think he could most certainly do a great job on the opposite side of the captain to Henderson to provide the ultimate in pressing and harrying midfields. I wouldn't necessarily see him playing every game, but then again I'm hopeful that we're rapidly reaching a stage in our evolution where no-one will play every game - even the magisterial King Luis who looked slightly jaded at the end of the recently completed campaign. Champions League football will require a much bigger squad and I'm also expecting more sustained domestic cup runs next year too. So in that regard, I see 'The Chief' as being an upgrade on Lucas whose lack of mobility is now glaring in the context of BR's current tactics.

 

On top of that, I'd very much welcome his attitude on the pitch and experience of winning major trophies. However, the price would have to be right and for a bloke who'll be 30 in a couple of weeks and in the last year of his contract, that would be a fee of less than £10m and wages that are related to appearances/performance: big bucks for boss footy but more modest remuneration for mere bench-warming.

 

 

Paul Natton

 


 

I have a lot of concerns about the validity of this rumour so I’ll start with that – I would be very surprised if it was true that we wanted to sign Mascherano. I have no doubt he’s about to leave Barcelona because they need a lot of work, especially in defence, and at 29 he is possibly the odd man out. But would he come back to Liverpool? The stories of homesickness persisted throughout all his time in England and unless his circumstances have changed it would make no sense at all for him to come back here.

 

And then there’s the way he left, which wasn’t pleasant. A lot of time has passed since the no show at Man City but at a dark time for the club in the dying days of Gillett and Hicks, he got out and made sure we had no choice other than to sell him. He owed us for turning his career around after his disastrous time at West Ham and he disappeared the first moment he could when things got tough.

 

But to be honest, I am willing to forgive that because I think he’s an absolutely phenomenal footballer. Time is a great healer and football fans are fickle beasts. As long as it’s all about the football I’d be over the moon to see him back. At 29 he has plenty of years in the tank and if you believe what you read in The Mirror he’s available for less than £10m. For me, that is an absolute steal.

 

Having come so close to winning the league you’d think we didn’t need massive changes but we do – we need to build a squad capable of challenging on more than one front. We need more creative players but being able to rotate Mascherano in instead of the likes of Luis Alberto would speak volumes for the improvement we would be making.

 

I wouldn’t want to see him play as a centre half because I don’t think he’d cut it in England. He’d lose too many headers and in this league, that costs you. He’s okay doing that at Barcelona but it won’t wash here.

 

I do think he’d be ideal to break play up – that was what he did so superbly for us. He doesn’t have a great range of passing and I don’t see how he AND Gerrard could fit into the same team, but everything we do this summer is about improving our options – making sure that our small squad is improved and not overstretched by the return to continental competition.

 

I don’t think it will happen and I think we’ll sign Lallana (with whom I’d be very happy as well) and again, I don’t see us signing both. But in terms of “would I forgive and forget?” I absolutely would, because I can’t help but remember the snidey little fella affectionately.

 

 

Dan Thomas

 


 

Well this is interesting. Of all the players I thought we might be linked with this summer, Javier Mascherano was not one I saw coming. Sure he’s been mentioned on the forum and social media, but that’s in the same way I still wish Xabi Alonso would come back, even when I know there’s not a chance that he will. But a possible return of Mascherano? Well this is just a bolt from the blue.

 

Now full disclosure, when this question came up, I suddenly had a recollection that I ‘might’ have written something for the fanzine on Mascherano’s departure at the time. I couldn’t quite recall but it seemed vaguely familiar to me so I thought maybe I should just go and check before giving my answer here. Good job I did, I absolutely savaged Mascherano and his wife.

 

I bemoaned the state of modern football and that contracts meant nothing, that loyalty was just a word, I said his reputation here was in tatters and told him to act like the professional he supposedly was. So in short, I wasn’t happy but who was at the time? The club was on its knees, about to be dragged through the High Court for it’s future and we had a divisive manager in charge who wasn’t up to the job. Amidst all of this, Mascherano couldn’t wait to get out of Dodge. He never took full ownership for the reasons for going; he just laced the truth with a pile of little complaints and then left by taking a slight wage cut so Barcelona could afford him.

 

That exit stuck in the craw. I loved Mascherano when he was here, he was tenacious, angry, ruthless and he had the right amount of crazy about him. He also can play in a position where we’re a little light at the moment. Gerrard won’t be able to play every game next year with the new, extra cup commitments and Lucas seems to be going backwards (slowly, of course). So if he can be snapped up for around the mooted £9million, would I have him back? Am I that fickle/hypocritical?

 

This is difficult, I have no problem being fickle or a hypocrite, these traits are part of every football fan all over the world. On the one hand he walked out on the club when we needed people to stand up and be counted. On the other he offers a viable alternative to Gerrard. Would Mascherano stand for being on the bench most weeks? Gerrard will play most games and Mascherano won’t be partnering him, unless Rodgers is thinking about altering the style of play that we currently enjoy.

 

We need a bigger squad for next season and more seasoned players never hurt anyone. I’d be tempted to say that Mascherano would give us more steel; he’d stand up and be counted if we were under pressure, but then he did slope off when we needed such individuals in 2010. This signing provides more questions than answers from my point of view. I’m not ready to welcome someone back who left so acrimoniously, even if he did try to apologise by dedicating his Champions League win to us.

 

Napoli always seem to be linked with players from our 2008/09 team, as if Benitez is obsessed with rebuilding that team, maybe that’s where Mascherano fits in, I don’t believe he fits in here any more.

 

Julian Richards


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He'd be back up to Gerrard.  Don't think he'd like the idea of that.

 

Also is he the right type of player we need for that role now?  Don't think his passing is good enough, especially when looking at what Gerrard offers in that role.

 

He's had his time with us.  Now we need a different type of player.

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I don't think we'll play with a effectively a deep lying playmaker as the deepest midfielder all next season.

 

Why?

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I don't think Gerrard will play every single minute of every single game, and I think Rodgers will be a little more pragmatic in some games anyway.

 

I agree Gerrard won't play every game.  But I think he likes playing that way.  He didn't go more pragmatic last season when we played the bigger sides, don't see why that will change.  Although I think at times we should.

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Its not necessarily against the bigger sides that we need to be more pragmatic. I think he was unlikely to change a system/philosophy during a season, especially one in which we were exceeding expectations. He'll realise that next season we probably won't be afforded the space we were at times to counter at pace, as often anyway. With a month (between the World Cup finishing and the league starting) to work on new stuff he may well return, not fully mind, to the "death by football" style we saw when he first came here.

 

Some games next season, when we're two up, it'll pay to have a more physical presence as the deepest midfielder. And to have periods of the game where we just kill it stone dead. Kill any initiative and momentum the opposition were building.

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I'd bring him back to play central defence partnering Agger, gives us the option of finesse versus brute strength Sakho and Skrtel. Obviously if your playing a big physical side you play the latter, but if it's about passing the team to death there isn't many better than them two.

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To play in Gerrard's position you need to be able to pick out runners from a deep position.

 

To play in Henderson's/Allen's position you need mobility, stamina, passing ability and late runs into the box.

 

He doesn't fit either position.

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He is one of the finest player of his generation, and for his age, one of the most accomplished Argentinians of all time, with an established track record of performance at the very highest level, a quality lacking in our current squad.

 

If he is available, and he would come back, he would be a vital upgrade.

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If the club had balls back then like it did with Suarez last summer, he wouldn't have gone.

 

It comes across that some people have a bit of double standards when it comes to Mascher. Suarez wanted to leave last summer. Threw his toys out like Mascher did, except he was told he was staying. Now everybody loves him again.

 

I don't blame Mascherano for wanting out and forcing the move. I would have wanted out at the time as well.

 

If we can get him for a reasonable price, get him signed. If he costs more than the reported £9 Mill, then I would be inclined to leave it and pursue other world class targets.

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No, the cunt refused to play for us.  We paid him an astronomical amount of money, which enabled his family to live a life of luxury and he refused to play for us.  Fuck him.

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It comes across that some people have a bit of double standards when it comes to Mascher. Suarez wanted to leave last summer. Threw his toys out like Mascher did, except he was told he was staying. Now everybody loves him again.

 

He didn't refuse to play for us.

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True, but he threatened to hand in a transfer request and said he was prepared to take the club to the Premier League to force the move.

 

Then gave his all for the cause and nearly won us the league.  The last memory I have of Mascherano is him refusing to play and us getting shagged in that very same game.

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Then gave his all for the cause and nearly won us the league.  The last memory I have of Mascherano is him refusing to play and us getting shagged in that very same game.

 

Only because the club had the balls it was missing in 2010.

 

Let it go Dan, it's in the past.

 

He's a quality player, he would improve us. It's a no brainer.

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Only because the club had the balls it was missing in 2010.

 

Let it go Dan, it's in the past.

 

He's a quality player, he would improve us. It's a no brainer.

 

I know what you're saying, but it's the worst possible thing a player can do.  I'd be seriously pissed off if we took him back, but that's just me.

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Then gave his all for the cause and nearly won us the league.  The last memory I have of Mascherano is him refusing to play and us getting shagged in that very same game.

 

I remember before the game Andy Gray saying how it was 'refreshing' we were playing a 442 and how it's the way we should be playing. How how he knew this was the way Gerrard wanted to play and how we'd be much more attacking with two strikers under Roy.

 

Then we got bummed so hard all the Smints in the world couldn't ease the pain.

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