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Rickie Lambert - Are you on board with it?

    The Reds have been linked with all manner of players so far this summer, but no-one seemed to have a clue that Southampton's Scouse striker Rickie Lambert was on Brendan Rodgers' shopping list. A deal for the 32 year old is said to be close, with some reports suggesting he'll have a medical following England's friendly on Friday night. Smart move or underwhelming? Three TLW writers give their verdict...

On the face of it and in the context of our transfer deals of recent windows, the apparently imminent signing of Rickie Lambert from Southampton for a fee variously quoted as between £4m and £9m seems laughably typical of the succession of unsuccessful deals negotiated by the much-criticised transfer committee. A 32 year old who's played his entire career at mid table or worse is hardly the kind of signing to get the pulse racing.

 

And yet. And yet. I've never been one to second guess potential signings before they've shown what they can do in a Red shirt (at least not in the negative; I'm often all in on the premature "He'll be boss for us" shout). Our history is littered with signings that leave you underwhelmed but turn out to be good (Sami Hyypia, Gary Mac and more) or players who're touted as being ace but fall flat rapidly (Morientes, Cheyrou, Diouf and others besides). So I generally lean towards the optimistic, but wait and see camp.

 

In terms of Lambert though, I think he could be a very crafty transfer for a number of reasons. First of all - and most definitely not to be sniffed at - he's a Scouser and a Red. When it's obvious that he will not be first choice, motivation other than playing every week will be important.

 

Another reason I like the thinking behind this deal is that he's used to playing in a team that has many parallels with ours in the way they play. They're a front foot side where there's an expectation that they close down hard from the forward line backwards. Furthermore, he could offer us an element of a Plan B (holding up the ball and/or retaining possession) without having to completely ditch Plan A to do so. A Peter Crouch option if you like - and much like Peter Crouch, he's better than people give him credit for. He's got a good touch and pass on him and his movement is clever.

 

So far, so good - but what about the fee? £9m or even £4m plus add ons still seems excessive for a player of his age and pedigree. However, just maybe this deal bears the first signs of an improved degree of canniness on the part of that committee. We keep hearing that Adam Lallana is going to cost £30m because his previous club are due a 25% slice of any sell on fee. However, maybe we're going heavy on Lambert to appear to go light on Lallana. We get two players we want for a reasonable combined fee that suits Southampton too as they don't have to pass on as much as they thought for a player who wants out anyway.

 

So in conclusion, I'll judge this deal after it's completed and the player has shown what he can do for us, but I think it has the potential to be a very clever piece of business. Let's hope so because we all know that this summer is absolutely vital for us if we're going to go one step further next season and bring back number nineteen.

 

Paul Natton

 


 

I don’t think anyone saw this one coming, but after the initial shock wore off I was more than happy with the idea. I like Rickie Lambert, not only is he a good Red but he’s an impressive footballer. He’s done it the hard way too, spending most of his career in the lower leagues before hitting the big time when Southampton were promoted to the Premier League two years ago.

 

I didn’t expect him to do much in the top flight but he has looked at home from day one and I’ve been impressed any time I’ve seen him play. I remember writing last season that Lambert is basically a modern day John Aldridge, the main difference being he’s playing in an era in which the top sides don’t buy players like him because they can go out and pick up some foreign superstar. When Aldo was picked up by Liverpool to replace Ian Rush there were hardly any foreign players in the league and the top sides would often look to the lower leagues or smaller top flight clubs for players. If Aldo had been playing 25 years later chances are he’d never have got his dream move to Liverpool and that’s how I felt about Lambert.

 

Looks like I was wrong about that, if this one goes through it will be fantastic for Rickie as he had surely given up on any hope he had of pulling on the red shirt and scoring in front of the Kop. He’d bring a lot to the table in my opinion; he’s a fine footballer who creates as many goals as he scores. He’s clever, very unselfish and offers something different. His love the club can't be underplayed either, as there aren't any other players of his ability who would be prepared to be a squad player. He'll do it because it's a dream come true to play for the Reds.

 

It’s perhaps somewhat disrespectful to refer to him as a ‘Plan B’ as he’s much better than that, but put it this way: Against Chelsea we had to send on Iago Aspas to try and get back into the game. Perhaps if we had Lambert to call on we’d have gotten something that day?

 

If this goes through I hope it doesn’t spell the end for Fabio Borini, as with all the games we’ll have next season we may well need four strikers, especially as we have no idea how much the World Cup will take out of Sturridge, Suarez and Sterling. 

 

I also can’t shake the feeling that this deal might be linked to the Lallana one. Southampton don’t want to give Bournemouth 25% of a huge fee, which may explain why we’ve been linked with Dejan Lovren and Nathaniel Clyne in recent weeks too. Maybe I’ve just got a suspicious mind, but modern football is rotten to it’s core and nothing would surprise me.

 

Dave Usher

 


 

Talk about a bolt from the blue. Who saw this coming? I bet Rickie Lambert in his wildest dreams didn’t think that he’d get the chance to play for his boyhood club. I think we can all guess that Brendan got the Southampton season review DVD for his birthday as the club continues to plunder their brightest and best.

 

In a way I feel sorry for Southampton, what we’re seeing here is the worst side of football. They got promoted with a team built upon second chancers and academy graduates, and gained a prominent foothold in the top flight. Now they’re finding that success comes with a very high price. They lost their Chief Executive in something approaching a power struggle, they’ve lost their manager to the revolving door at White Hart Lane and they look like they’re losing the core of their team. Good luck next year, Southampton; thanks for coming.

 

But as for Liverpool, this is a very shrewd signing. The fee has to be right and if it’s around the £4-5million mark then that’s peanuts in today’s market. It seems that Lambert’s availability came up in discussions over Lallana (and possibly Lovren) so perhaps Southampton asked if we were interested in these fine leather jackets too.

 

Lambert’s signing isn’t a marquee signing, it’s very much about squad building. If you work on the assumption that Suarez and Sturridge are going to be the main men, you need people backing them up to provide rest, an alternative and cover for injury. If those two players are Lambert and Borini, then I think that’s a good set of players with a decent range of ability that provides a degree of flexibility for various scenarios.

 

Certainly when you compare Lambert with the player who’s already here (Aspas) then there’s no contest. Aspas was shown to be unable to cope with demands of the league and during the run-in, his only use was keeping a seat warm. Lambert is an immediate upgrade on him and that’s what the goal is during this summer, which is building a squad and team that can push on into the Champions League and still maintain a league challenge. Lambert is used to the more robust nature of the league, he’s proven he can score and make goals at this level and he’s a different type of player to the other strikers.

 

This is a real feel good story and it’s a piece of business that makes plenty of sense. That Lambert absolutely loves the club makes it a little bit sweeter for me. I love seeing players who have that connection with the club in the team. My only worry is that last summer we got the minor signings done early and then we waited… and waited… and waited for the big impact signings to happen, and nothing happened. Rickie Lambert would be a good addition to the squad but it’s the first team that needs upgrading too. This would be a good start to the summer’s activity but let’s hope that we don’t repeat the mistakes of last year and dither on the big signings until it’s too late. Eyes on the prize, transfer committee.

 
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If Rodgers rates lambert so much why didn't he go for him last summer?

 

It will be interesting to see the fees for lambert and lallana if we get them.

Are you suggesting some sort of hand rubbing skullduggery?

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If he's dogshit and then scores a goal, I'll take that dogshit. To go for someone like Muriel, we would have to spend 15-20M at least, so I guess we are saving that for a proper forward who can play right, left and centrally. Pedro, Muniain, Alexis, etc. we're all hoping for something like that - is it realistic? Hard to say..

He scored a header from a corner, for most of the match he couldn't find a pass and looked shit technically.

 

I predict his career here will go like fowlers second coming, he'll score a few goals in meaningless games, it will be a success for sentimental reasons but ultimately it will not have improved the team.

 

Im just stunned, I literally can see no point in the signing except sentiment or to help the lallana deal.The only other thing would be the home grown rule for cl but Im pretty sure we are covered in that area.

 

Edit, meant to add skrtel could have gave his England performance and there are players like remy out there for a few million more and we haven't exactly gave the market a chance to develop have we.

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Why only five starts? He's at the same level of potential as Sterling, can rotate in and out in several positions. Could be a different player even.

There is the possibility that Rodgers sees Borini as that player.

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He scored a header from a corner, for most of the match he couldn't find a pass and looked shit technically.

 

I predict his career here will go like fowlers second coming, he'll score a few goals in meaningless games, it will be a success for sentimental reasons but ultimately it will not have improved the team.

 

Im just stunned, I literally can see no point in the signing except sentiment or to help the lallana deal.The only other thing would be the home grown rule for cl but Im pretty sure we are covered in that area.

 

Edit, meant to add skrtel could have gave his England performance and there are players like remy out there for a few million more and we haven't exactly gave the market a chance to develop have we.

 

 

Sheesh, where to start? How bout where you ended - Remy for a few million more than 4. Erm, no.

As to the dodgy part - it would work the other way fella, we would overpay for Lambert to offset Lallana. 

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Sheesh, where to start? How bout where you ended - Remy for a few million more than 4. Erm, no.

As to the dodgy part - it would work the other way fella, we would overpay for Lambert to offset Lallana.

 

Redknapp said Remy has a clause for slightly higher then they paid for him which was 8m, yes hes in decent wages but hes a top player who could cover all the front 3.

 

It seems dodgy or maybe Rodgers has fell for what I think Rafa did.

 

Everyone says lfc fans always love a player who gives a 100%, I thought he seemed to go for those types here over the technical players he dealt with at Valencia and has signed at napoli.

 

If Lambert was not a scouser who supports lfc we would be nowhere near him and I think everyone can accept that, I want the main reason for us going after players to be because we think they are top quality and can affect games instead of going for the hundred percenters.

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I watched all his goals from last season on youtube last night and he scored one where he went past and player and the rest were 90% headers or pens, anyone who doesn't believe me look yourself.

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Were his 10 assists in the league all headers too?

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More than happy with Lambert as an option from the bench. We'll get the fee back moving Aspas on. We'd all love the major targets to be signed and sealed as quickly as possible, but the reality is that those deals tend to be trickier, with players always looking to improve their lot and sometimes taking it to the wire - Willian was sat waiting for his Spurs medical and then fucked off to Chelsea. In a World Cup year there may be more of an incentive to stretch things out - the better they perform the more they can command.

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Were his 10 assists in the league all headers too?

Haha, most were flick ons or chest downs actually, not the typical number 9 don't you know.

 

To mcfly who said he cant take me serious because username is jp, I took that at the time as reading before I joined on tlw particularly they were very harsh on him the summer we were signing him saying he would absolutely shit and get up to all sorts.

 

I took the name to show a bit of support and said he would keep his head down and be good for us that season which turned out to be right.My username should be a reminder I am right most times on here even when most say the opposite.

 

This is a similar occasion and there have been others like the xabi-Barry saga and Hodgson, I said exactly what would happen with xabi when a lot wanted him gone and one of only 3 or 4 threads I have started on here was one of first on here criticising hodgson during his first pre season, again I called it exactly how it went after having to deal with fans on here telling me how good a signing konchesky would be.

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He is what he is. A back up striker. Could have done better but if the money saved in spent on proven quality i.e. not someone else with only a couple of seasons of top level football then it will be worth it.

 

Only issue for me is the style of play. Will we end up lumping the ball towards him? I hope not.

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Lambert for the right price (not more than 5 million) would be a positive addition to the team. The team needs his sort of experience and stability...and frankly I'd rather get a 32 year old Lambert on board than take the sort of shot we took last year with Aspas. 

 

If we make a marquee signing or two, this deal will look like really smart business. If we end up with Lallana, Lambert, and some no names.....it'll be another shit window. Still a long way to go yet and I'll give the team the benefit of the doubt and assume it's going to be the first of a few solid signings. 

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.My username should be a reminder I am right most times on here even when most say the opposite.

 

you do realise the minute you say something like this people automatically file you in the 'loser' bin.  

You're not the first one to say this today.  The bin's filling up.

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I read the paper last night and br was complemented lambert saying he isn't a typical number 9 and scores all sorts.

 

I watched all his goals from last season on youtube last night and he scored one where he went past and player and the rest were 90% headers or pens, anyone who doesn't believe me look yourself.

I didn't believe you so I looked myself:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEEufv5aNLw

 

Sure enough you are talking bobbins.

 

All kinds of goals in there, and his movement is excellent, he has that striker's knack of being in the right place at the right time.

 

Having watched his goals and assists on Youtube, I'm even more excited than I was. So cheers for that, at least.

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you do realise the minute you say something like this people automatically file you in the 'loser' bin.  

You're not the first one to say this today.  The bin's filling up.

Its a joke mate, obviously Im not always right, Im not great at getting sarcasm across on the net but as I have said there has been times on here when most of the forum thought one thing which I disagreed with and a few years later they look completely wrong.

 

I have had my moments aswell I wont deny it, I thought poulsen would be a good signing for us and there was a time I would have took Carlton cole, that now looks ridiculous.

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I didn't believe you so I looked myself:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEEufv5aNLwSure enough you are talking bobbins.All kinds of goals in there, and his movement is excellent, he has that striker's knack of being in the right place at the right time.Having watched his goals and assists on Youtube, I'm even more excited than I was. So cheers for that, at least.

Excellent, JP's morose comments are driving people to actually watch more of Lambert, and increasing the excitement!

 

Fuck you Jermaine, sleep well.

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Is no one gonna mention the fact that Roy has basically confirmed this is done and dusted by talking about him signing for us in the pre game interview?

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He is what he is. A back up striker. Could have done better but if the money saved in spent on proven quality i.e. not someone else with only a couple of seasons of top level football then it will be worth it.

 

Only issue for me is the style of play. Will we end up lumping the ball towards him? I hope not.

 

If anything a bit of a different option up front could be a good thing in certain games. As good as our attack is, it can get a little one dimensional.....not sure if Lambert is the perfect fit, but I think he'd provide a decent target to change the flow of a game. Also, if we're up by a goal or two it's not a terrible idea to have a striker up front who can slow the game down a little. 

 

Like you said, it is what it is, and he's a backup striker - just hoping he's a decent one. 

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I'm okay with it if its aspas money we are using. But if we have a top signing in negotiating and we lose out over a couple of million I'll be slightly annoyed. Generally we waste a fucking fortune on bit signing players of no use to us at all then talk of having to be smart with transfers on players who would genuinely improve the team.

 

I'm not even arsed whatever will be, when the window closes then I'll decide if its been a good window or as usual lax and shit. Stay tuned.

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you do realise the minute you say something like this people automatically file you in the 'loser' bin.  

You're not the first one to say this today.  The bin's filling up.

 

What color might this bin be?

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Juventus won the Italian league went and signed Llorente and Tevez. Man City came second signed Jovetic and Negredo. Bayern Munich won the treble got Gotze. This year they've got Lewandowski.

 

We're back with the big boys, not hoping to finish ahead of Everton.

Gotze is fuckin shit

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I didn't believe you so I looked myself:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEEufv5aNLwSure enough you are talking bobbins.All kinds of goals in there, and his movement is excellent, he has that striker's knack of being in the right place at the right time.Having watched his goals and assists on Youtube, I'm even more excited than I was. So cheers for that, at least.

Are you and funnee on a windup? How was what I said wrong?

 

The video is all headers, a couple tap ins, and I forgot about his free kicks probably because I know it will be of no use here as he wont get near them, same for pens.

 

His headers weren't even impressive hes mainly unmarked and free, he got one decent one outside the box but anyone excited by that video must be pissed we sold Carroll because I saw nothing in the video I don't think he can do apart from maybe fks which as I said is pointless anyway.

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