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Rickie Lambert - Are you on board with it?

    The Reds have been linked with all manner of players so far this summer, but no-one seemed to have a clue that Southampton's Scouse striker Rickie Lambert was on Brendan Rodgers' shopping list. A deal for the 32 year old is said to be close, with some reports suggesting he'll have a medical following England's friendly on Friday night. Smart move or underwhelming? Three TLW writers give their verdict...

On the face of it and in the context of our transfer deals of recent windows, the apparently imminent signing of Rickie Lambert from Southampton for a fee variously quoted as between £4m and £9m seems laughably typical of the succession of unsuccessful deals negotiated by the much-criticised transfer committee. A 32 year old who's played his entire career at mid table or worse is hardly the kind of signing to get the pulse racing.

 

And yet. And yet. I've never been one to second guess potential signings before they've shown what they can do in a Red shirt (at least not in the negative; I'm often all in on the premature "He'll be boss for us" shout). Our history is littered with signings that leave you underwhelmed but turn out to be good (Sami Hyypia, Gary Mac and more) or players who're touted as being ace but fall flat rapidly (Morientes, Cheyrou, Diouf and others besides). So I generally lean towards the optimistic, but wait and see camp.

 

In terms of Lambert though, I think he could be a very crafty transfer for a number of reasons. First of all - and most definitely not to be sniffed at - he's a Scouser and a Red. When it's obvious that he will not be first choice, motivation other than playing every week will be important.

 

Another reason I like the thinking behind this deal is that he's used to playing in a team that has many parallels with ours in the way they play. They're a front foot side where there's an expectation that they close down hard from the forward line backwards. Furthermore, he could offer us an element of a Plan B (holding up the ball and/or retaining possession) without having to completely ditch Plan A to do so. A Peter Crouch option if you like - and much like Peter Crouch, he's better than people give him credit for. He's got a good touch and pass on him and his movement is clever.

 

So far, so good - but what about the fee? £9m or even £4m plus add ons still seems excessive for a player of his age and pedigree. However, just maybe this deal bears the first signs of an improved degree of canniness on the part of that committee. We keep hearing that Adam Lallana is going to cost £30m because his previous club are due a 25% slice of any sell on fee. However, maybe we're going heavy on Lambert to appear to go light on Lallana. We get two players we want for a reasonable combined fee that suits Southampton too as they don't have to pass on as much as they thought for a player who wants out anyway.

 

So in conclusion, I'll judge this deal after it's completed and the player has shown what he can do for us, but I think it has the potential to be a very clever piece of business. Let's hope so because we all know that this summer is absolutely vital for us if we're going to go one step further next season and bring back number nineteen.

 

Paul Natton

 


 

I don’t think anyone saw this one coming, but after the initial shock wore off I was more than happy with the idea. I like Rickie Lambert, not only is he a good Red but he’s an impressive footballer. He’s done it the hard way too, spending most of his career in the lower leagues before hitting the big time when Southampton were promoted to the Premier League two years ago.

 

I didn’t expect him to do much in the top flight but he has looked at home from day one and I’ve been impressed any time I’ve seen him play. I remember writing last season that Lambert is basically a modern day John Aldridge, the main difference being he’s playing in an era in which the top sides don’t buy players like him because they can go out and pick up some foreign superstar. When Aldo was picked up by Liverpool to replace Ian Rush there were hardly any foreign players in the league and the top sides would often look to the lower leagues or smaller top flight clubs for players. If Aldo had been playing 25 years later chances are he’d never have got his dream move to Liverpool and that’s how I felt about Lambert.

 

Looks like I was wrong about that, if this one goes through it will be fantastic for Rickie as he had surely given up on any hope he had of pulling on the red shirt and scoring in front of the Kop. He’d bring a lot to the table in my opinion; he’s a fine footballer who creates as many goals as he scores. He’s clever, very unselfish and offers something different. His love the club can't be underplayed either, as there aren't any other players of his ability who would be prepared to be a squad player. He'll do it because it's a dream come true to play for the Reds.

 

It’s perhaps somewhat disrespectful to refer to him as a ‘Plan B’ as he’s much better than that, but put it this way: Against Chelsea we had to send on Iago Aspas to try and get back into the game. Perhaps if we had Lambert to call on we’d have gotten something that day?

 

If this goes through I hope it doesn’t spell the end for Fabio Borini, as with all the games we’ll have next season we may well need four strikers, especially as we have no idea how much the World Cup will take out of Sturridge, Suarez and Sterling. 

 

I also can’t shake the feeling that this deal might be linked to the Lallana one. Southampton don’t want to give Bournemouth 25% of a huge fee, which may explain why we’ve been linked with Dejan Lovren and Nathaniel Clyne in recent weeks too. Maybe I’ve just got a suspicious mind, but modern football is rotten to it’s core and nothing would surprise me.

 

Dave Usher

 


 

Talk about a bolt from the blue. Who saw this coming? I bet Rickie Lambert in his wildest dreams didn’t think that he’d get the chance to play for his boyhood club. I think we can all guess that Brendan got the Southampton season review DVD for his birthday as the club continues to plunder their brightest and best.

 

In a way I feel sorry for Southampton, what we’re seeing here is the worst side of football. They got promoted with a team built upon second chancers and academy graduates, and gained a prominent foothold in the top flight. Now they’re finding that success comes with a very high price. They lost their Chief Executive in something approaching a power struggle, they’ve lost their manager to the revolving door at White Hart Lane and they look like they’re losing the core of their team. Good luck next year, Southampton; thanks for coming.

 

But as for Liverpool, this is a very shrewd signing. The fee has to be right and if it’s around the £4-5million mark then that’s peanuts in today’s market. It seems that Lambert’s availability came up in discussions over Lallana (and possibly Lovren) so perhaps Southampton asked if we were interested in these fine leather jackets too.

 

Lambert’s signing isn’t a marquee signing, it’s very much about squad building. If you work on the assumption that Suarez and Sturridge are going to be the main men, you need people backing them up to provide rest, an alternative and cover for injury. If those two players are Lambert and Borini, then I think that’s a good set of players with a decent range of ability that provides a degree of flexibility for various scenarios.

 

Certainly when you compare Lambert with the player who’s already here (Aspas) then there’s no contest. Aspas was shown to be unable to cope with demands of the league and during the run-in, his only use was keeping a seat warm. Lambert is an immediate upgrade on him and that’s what the goal is during this summer, which is building a squad and team that can push on into the Champions League and still maintain a league challenge. Lambert is used to the more robust nature of the league, he’s proven he can score and make goals at this level and he’s a different type of player to the other strikers.

 

This is a real feel good story and it’s a piece of business that makes plenty of sense. That Lambert absolutely loves the club makes it a little bit sweeter for me. I love seeing players who have that connection with the club in the team. My only worry is that last summer we got the minor signings done early and then we waited… and waited… and waited for the big impact signings to happen, and nothing happened. Rickie Lambert would be a good addition to the squad but it’s the first team that needs upgrading too. This would be a good start to the summer’s activity but let’s hope that we don’t repeat the mistakes of last year and dither on the big signings until it’s too late. Eyes on the prize, transfer committee.

 
Julian Richards

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You aren't getting it. Chelsea have massive quality throughout the rest of their team. They shit on us with their quality and depth in defense, and therefore don't need to score as many goals. If we do strengthen the rest of our team with top quality players we will also be less reliant on goal scoring. So why waste money and wages on a squad player that Rodger's clearly stated we weren't going to focus on, instead of what we really need?

 

Later down the track if we really want to sustain our ability to compete then I think we ought to spend big money on a 3rd striker who is at a level on or close to our first choicers in order to maintain quality when we rotate as City can do. That will remain a big advantage to City, as we are basically relying on Suarez and Sturridge to not have to spend too much time on the sidelines or we are fucked. City are sitting pretty in that regard.

 

Not really sure where you're coming from with this?

 

If signing Lambert meant we couldn't get the first team players we need, then you'd be right. But it's a bit of a leap to be suggesting that because we're signing Lambert as back up it means we won't have the cash to fill the positions that need filling, surely?

 

You used the word 'instead' of what we really need. If it is instead then I'm with you, but there's nothing to suggest Lambert won't be brought in as well as what we really need. We've got a £16m bid in for a left back for example.

 

You've said we shouldn't spend big on a 3rd striker until other areas have been addressed, and I completely agree. It would be pretty daft. That would be a complete luxury signing at this moment in time. Maybe next year once we've filled the areas of real need, but not now.

 

Even with Borini coming back, it makes sense to add another. I would have been ok with us going into next season with Sturridge, Suarez and Borini as long as we bought a couple of top drawer wide attackers to compliment them, but having Lambert as well is a good insurance policy and the more I think about it we probably need four strikers.

 

Last year we were basically only playing league games, yet Suarez was completely goosed in the last month of the season. Next year we'll have loads more games so he'll need to be managed more, especially coming off a World Cup and an injury.

 

Sturridge has been quite injury prone and is unlikely to play an entire season without missing games, so yeah, we probably do need four.

 

Signing Lambert for the fee quoted is not going to eat into the budget much at all, so I don't see it as being relevant to us buying other players.

 

If you just don't think he's good enough then that's a different matter of course.

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Not really sure where you're coming from with this?

 

If signing Lambert meant we couldn't get the first team players we need, then you'd be right. But it's a bit of a leap to be suggesting that because we're signing Lambert as back up it means we won't have the cash to fill the positions that need filling, surely?

 

You used the word 'instead' of what we really need. If it is instead then I'm with you, but there's nothing to suggest Lambert won't be brought in as well as what we really need. We've got a £16m bid in for a left back for example.

 

You've said we shouldn't spend big on a 3rd striker until other areas have been addressed, and I completely agree. It would be pretty daft. That would be a complete luxury signing at this moment in time. Maybe next year once we've filled the areas of real need, but not now.

 

Even with Borini coming back, it makes sense to add another. I would have been ok with us going into next season with Sturridge, Suarez and Borini as long as we bought a couple of top drawer wide attackers to compliment them, but having Lambert as well is a good insurance policy and the more I think about it we probably need four strikers.

 

Last year we were basically only playing league games, yet Suarez was completely goosed in the last month of the season. Next year we'll have loads more games so he'll need to be managed more, especially coming off a World Cup and an injury.

 

Sturridge has been quite injury prone and is unlikely to play an entire season without missing games, so yeah, we probably do need four.

 

Signing Lambert for the fee quoted is not going to eat into the budget much at all, so I don't see it as being relevant to us buying other players.

 

If you just don't think he's good enough then that's a different matter of course.

 

You nailed it Dave! 

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If we sign Lallana and Lambert that would give us seven of England's WC squad. If most of them are playing then I may find it difficult to root against them this time!

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I understand some of the disappointment with this deal. I didn't want us to touch squad players until obvious first team players or those capable of ousting someone from the starting eleven were signed.

 

However, this deal smacks of opportunism. We're locked in negotiations over another player, Southampton lose their manager and this just seems to tick the right boxes.

 

If it affects other deals, then it's poor business, but by the looks of it we're pressing ahead for first team candidates as we speak.

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If we sign Lallana and Lambert that would give us seven of England's WC squad. If most of them are playing then I may find it difficult to root against them this time!

 

It's becoming a bit of a concern that.

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If we sign Lallana and Lambert that would give us seven of England's WC squad. If most of them are playing then I may find it difficult to root against them this time!

Only slight issue with that is when you stick 11 English men on the pitch together they tend to be monumentally shit.

 

hopefully only having 7 mixed with 4 from elsewhere will be enough to negate whatever curse befalls the England team (and not having Hodgson as manager will help).

 

 

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A football team is the sum of all it's parts. We will likely sign 5-6 more players that will help the entire squad. A mix of youth and experience is essential when challenging for honours.

We could sign C Ronaldo but it wouldn't necessarily make us a great team. Too many fuckin hysterical fannies having a shit freak over nothing. If we haven't strengthened come end of August then by all means have a pop.

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Last summer we spent £8m on Aspas, and people are moaning about spending £4m on Lambert?

 

Baffling...

It truly is fucking baffling.

 

The good news here folks is that I knew Aspas was going to be a shit signing. I also think Lambert will be a decent, bellamy esque player for us in that he will get us circa 10 goals.

 

Im nearly always right so you can all rest assured.

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Roy Evans should never have released him in the first place...

 

Not sure I agree with that one. He was 15 when he was released and didn't play in the Premier League until he touching 30.  In those 15 years he played in the Championship for one season, the rest of them in League 1 & 2.  I'd put this one down to Rickie Lambert working his socks off than the oversight of a manager. I don't think any club, Southampton included, had Lambert down as a Premier League player and England international when they signed him in League 1, approaching his 28th birthday.

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I think Lambert will be an excellent signing.  His motivation to do well will be infectious to the rest of the team.  He'll walk out of the tunnel at Anfield feeling 10 feet tall and will run himself into the ground for us.

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I think this transfer has to be seen in isolation, it clearly isn't the "policy". We've got two of the best forwards in the world, with absolute shite backing them up. We weren't going to spend two thirds of the total transfer budget trying to sign someone as good as Sturridge, and we can't sign anyone as good as Suarez.

 

Even if its just for one season I reckon this makes sense. Lambert will be absolutely buzzing, and he knows he may only get one season as well. I'd much prefer this to someone like Remy, who I think is very overrated, and one dimensional, but also a complete knob. Average work rate, big wages, agent driven, mercenary cunt, who will spend his whole career talking shit in the media and moving clubs every season. A short, poor man's Adebayor. He'll be in Qatar or China by 30.

 

In other areas of the pitch we need first team players, or at the very least, players of a similar ability to what we have, to rotate. So we need most of the budget spent there.

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I think Lambert will be an excellent signing.  His motivation to do well will be infectious to the rest of the team.  He'll walk out of the tunnel at Anfield feeling 10 feet tall and will run himself into the ground for us.

 

Ditto.

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If we sign Lallana and Lambert that would give us seven of England's WC squad. If most of them are playing then I may find it difficult to root against them this time!

It'll be seven of our players poisoned by that owl - faced dinosaur. Hopefully they'll get knocked out early so Brendan has plenty of time to administer the antidote

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Not over excited by Lambert but would be happy with him and Borini as back up and bin off Aspas. Had hoped by now we could have had a couple more strategic signings in the can .

The Lallana saga is starting to piss me off .

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Im ok with it.

 

Reminds me of the John Aldridge transfer in that he is a boyhood Red in the twilight of his career(Aldridge wasnt as old as Lambert but they are similar types of players) and they both offered us that different option of an aerial threat with the option of holding the ball up when necessary. Both better on the ground than given credit for too.

If we werent able to compete for a Dzeko style transfer then Lambert is a very capable compromise.

Nice to see Brendan admits we need another option so now lets get this defence sorted out.

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Love how so many supporters are so accepting of signings like these. Small time mentality after so many years of being also rans? Chelsea and City will be laughing if this is the type of signing we make to supposedly have a chance of competing with them with the addition of continental competition.

 

It seems like supporters expect our managers style of play to carry us to glory. Rodgers style and management abilities will take us a ways, but a style of play can only take you so far when your rivals are buying the best players each window, while we continue to shop out of the bargain bin.

What shall we do then? Spunk our entire load on someone like Benzema to sit on the bench and not be able to sign an attacking midfielder, left back, centre back or defensive midfielder? Sounds ace.

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Happy with this. He's actually a really good player Lambert and for 4 million a steal. Shame he's not a few years younger, but I think he'll get 15-20 goals for us next season. Boyhood red too. I'll be amazed if this doesn't turn out to be excellent business. 

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Vietto would have been perfect, Lambert is good value.

I've never seen Vietto but would he have had over 20 total goals and assists last year playing for Southampton?

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