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"Who - if anyone - makes way for Coutinho?"

    The brilliant little Brazilian is over his injury and back in the fold. His guile, vision and general all round awesomeness had been sorely missed, but then last week saw the Reds finally put in a 90 minute performance. With a tough trip to Arsenal this weekend, should Coutinho come straight back into the reckoning? 


It’s a tricky one, this. Given how vital Coutinho is to our attacking play, to advocate leaving him out of the side, especially in such a big game like the one at the Emirates tomorrow, is borderline sacrilege. With that said, considering how impressive our performance was against West Brom, and how balanced the side – and, more importantly, the midfield - looked it’s difficult to suggest anything other than an unchanged side, especially away from home.

 

Of course, everything depends on how he looks in training, but I hope we exercise caution and don’t bring him back until he’s ready. This will be Arsenal’s fifth game in a little over two weeks, so he’d be a great option coming off the bench when they hopefully start to get a bit leggy in the second half.

 

Moving forward, however, there is no doubt that the boss, bantam Brazilian bastard should be one of the first names on the teamsheet. As things stand I’ve no real preference as to whether we persist with three at the back or revert back to the system we used last season; his versatility gives us several options in terms of how to accommodate him in to the side, and a convincing case could be made either way.

 

But I must admit that the football hipster inside me is curious to see how we would perform over a prolonged period with a 3-4-1-2 with Coutinho behind Suarez and Sturridge. I think it is a system that plays to the collective strengths of the players we currently have more than the 4-3-3, and playing one of the three aforementioned players out wide seems like a bit of a waste.

 

As for who he replaces in the side, again that all depends on what system we use going forward, but the solution appears to be pretty straight forward in both cases: the in-form players deserve to keep their place in the side. In the 3-4-1-2 he would play as the most advanced of the midfield three and thus would replace one of Gerrard, Lucas or Henderson; in a 4-3-3 he would obviously replace one of the three centre-backs.

 

Whilst suggesting that Coutinho should be thrust straight back in to the side contradicts my previous statement, the attacking triumvirate of Coutinho, Sturridge and Suarez is simply too good to ignore and if we want to finish in the top four they need to all be on the pitch as much as possible. Plus it will put an end to this god awful SAS nonsense, as CSS, SCS and SSC all sound like furniture companies that have long gone bankrupt.

 

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Whilst it's fantastic to have him back, I don't think we should be throwing Coutinho back into the side for the Arsenal game.  For one thing, he's been out a while and probably isn't fit enough to be starting the game, but even if he were I wouldn't be picking him for this one anyway.

 

If it were a home game (or even an away game against less stiff opposition) then I'd want the little Brazilian on the pitch more often than not. But Arsenal away?  No, we need to beef up the middle of the park for this one or we'll get over ran in there, as that's the strength of the Gunners.  Lucas is therefore essential for a game like this, as is the running power of Henderson (outstanding in this fixture last season and someone well capable of exploiting the large gaps Arsenal leave in behind their defence when they go forward), and for me the mere suggestion of going into any game with Gerrard not in the line up is just crazy talk.

 

A couple of weeks ago the situation looked fairly straight forward; we were playing 3-4-1-2 and Victor Moses was keeping Coutinho's shirt warm for him until he was ready to return.  The system never really looked quite right, however, despite the obvious positives of being able to play Suarez and Sturridge closer together without having to make one of them sacrifice themselves by playing wide (as Suarez did at Arsenal last season).

 

Many of us put that down to Moses not really being suited to the number 10 role, but when Coutinho was ready to return things would look much better, right?  Not necessarily, at least not if Rodgers' comments this week mean anything.  I thought this was very interesting:

 

"When you play that system (with three at the back and two strikers), that is how you have to do it. Lucas was out last week, and Joe Allen wasn't fit enough to play that controller role, so we had to go with what we had.
 
“When you play two controllers and one in front of them, you don't cover the pitch, you don't fan out well enough, so when the ball gets switched, you're open.

 

“If you look at the games we've played, we've had quite a few shots against us. But when you flip the triangle and play with the one controller, it pushes the other two midfielders up the pitch more, so they can press it better. Then when the ball does get switched, they're in position to press again.

 

“It's something I've always known, and always wanted to do, but I can only deal with the players I have available."

 

That suggests he isn't ideally wanting to play 3-4-1-2, but more of the 3-1-4-2 we saw last week against West Brom. In that system, where does Coutinho play?  Well he probably doesn't, so for him to come back we'll need to see another tweak to the system, and I'm sure we will do.  It might be one of the centre backs dropping out and a switch to a 4-1-2-1-2 midfield diamond, or more likely one of the centre midfielders being sacrificed to allow Coutinho to play behind the front two.

 

Something will have to be done as Coutinho is too talented to be left out of the side once he's fully fit and capable of playing 90 minutes.  That's unlikely to be the case this weekend though, and I'd expect him to be watching from the bench and only get on either if things aren't going to plan in some way, whether it's scoreline or injury.

 

Dave Usher

 



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Arsenal will have the majority of the possession, certainly in the 1st half, so to waste Coutinho running himself into the ground whilst half fit would be a shame. 

 

Plus he's just the type of player someone like Flamini would look to boot out of the game.

 

A tight first half with the same team as the WBA game, then bring him on later as Arsenal start to tire. Coutinho, Suarez and Sturridge vs an Arsenal defence that's had minimal rest recently should get us a goal or two.

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Can't see him starting under any conditions. Besides, Suarez will come quite deep to get the ball and create his chances for himself and Sturridge.

 

I'd like to see another ball winner out there but if Gerrard, Lucas and Henderson are written in stone then we're going to be relying exclusively on SAS for another master class.

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Plus it will put an end to this god awful SAS nonsense, as CSS, SCS and SSC all sound like furniture companies that have long gone bankrupt.

 

If we're sticking with shit acronyms i vote for DLP as they project greatness.

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Skrtel drops out imo.

 

4 at the back, 3 across the midfield, Coutinho in just behind Suarez and Sturridge. 4-3-1-2 for the mathematically challenged.

 

That plays to the strengths of our brilliant attacking 3, keeps the midfield strength and control, and trusts our defenders to get the job done.

 

Conversely, by keeping 5 at the back would demand that we lose a man (Hendo probs) from midfield, thus sacrificing our midfield dominance, or simply leave a creative genius like Coutinho on the bench.

 

For me it's a no brainer. Sorry Martin.

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Skrtel drops out imo.

 

4 at the back, 3 across the midfield, Coutinho in just behind Suarez and Sturridge. 4-3-1-2 for the mathematically challenged.

 

That plays to the strengths of our brilliant attacking 3, keeps the midfield strength and control, and trusts our defenders to get the job done.

 

Conversely, by keeping 5 at the back would demand that we lose a man (Hendo probs) from midfield, thus sacrificing our midfield dominance, or simply leave a creative genius like Coutinho on the bench.

 

For me it's a no brainer. Sorry Martin.

 

This. Exactly this.

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Skrtel drops out imo.

 

4 at the back, 3 across the midfield, Coutinho in just behind Suarez and Sturridge. 4-3-1-2 for the mathematically challenged.

 

That plays to the strengths of our brilliant attacking 3, keeps the midfield strength and control, and trusts our defenders to get the job done.

 

Conversely, by keeping 5 at the back would demand that we lose a man (Hendo probs) from midfield, thus sacrificing our midfield dominance, or simply leave a creative genius like Coutinho on the bench.

 

For me it's a no brainer. Sorry Martin.

 

Ok, but that depends a lot on Coutinho's fitness. If he can't play, I'd put Allen in his place with the same formation.

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Ok, but that depends a lot on Coutinho's fitness. If he can't play, I'd put Allen in his place with the same formation.

 

So would I, but Gerrard would be the number 10 with Allen in the midfield three.

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What has impressed me most is how well we have coped with being without the likes of Coutinho and Suarez, as well as Agger and Johnson. We hear how weak the squad is, but we are coping well. We do need more options, especially from the bench, but considering the quality of player we have been without, we have shown resilience.

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3-5-2

 

i love our little brazilian and hes gonna be great but he does fuck all against better teams really at the moment....play a solid flat 3 across middle and let our 2 pacey tricky goal machines tear their slow ass CBs a  new bumhole!

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Skrtel drops out imo.

 

4 at the back, 3 across the midfield, Coutinho in just behind Suarez and Sturridge. 4-3-1-2 for the mathematically challenged.

 

That plays to the strengths of our brilliant attacking 3, keeps the midfield strength and control, and trusts our defenders to get the job done.

 

Conversely, by keeping 5 at the back would demand that we lose a man (Hendo probs) from midfield, thus sacrificing our midfield dominance, or simply leave a creative genius like Coutinho on the bench.

 

For me it's a no brainer. Sorry Martin.

 

 

That's exactly how I see it as well.

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No-one if he isn't fully fit. If he is and when he is, he needs to be accommodated. 

 

4 at the back instead of 5.

 

This. We do not need three centre half's to take care of oliver giroud.

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I'll start off defensively against arsenal today, waiting for the few moments where we are able to construct a counter attack thanks to some brilliance from Suarez and probably Gerrard.

 

As we are going to the Emirates, I'll be expecting Arsenal to start off really strongly and the ball would spend much more time in our half than in theirs.

 

Start off with a 3-4-1-2 with Coutinho on the bench, play in our own half and try to get the ball forward with a few long passes, which both Suarez and Sturridge have shown that they are able to control such balls. If they score, that'll be fantastic, but even if they don't, it's still OKAY for me, as it's only an added bonus. Main thing for the early play is that we do not concede, for they have been showing that they build on the first goal.

 

After perhaps the 55 minute mark, depending on whether their players start to feel lethargic or disorientated, I'll revert to a 4-3-1-2 formation, removing a centre back for Coutinho. If it's still 0-0 now, we'll hopefully nick a 1-0 or 2-1 win. I won't start Coutinho though, it's never wise to rush a player back from an injury especially at such a tough game, even if it's Coutinho.

 

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What Diablo said.

 

Flamini is out, so there's not much chance of him being kicked around. Would rather see him start and come off early than him come on with 30 to go and maybe pull something.

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he's just a young player being overplayed, looks knackered, tries too hard all the time, needs a rest, has a world class potential, love him, twice the player than adnan fucking januzaj, doesn't dive, ace name

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Not the same player when you move him out of the middle. Also, probably not helped him Sturridge being out of the side for so long. Having a break (if we can afford to give him one) will do him no harm.

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Overplayed? He's 21 so should have plenty of energy, we're not in Europe, we went out of the league cup early, and he had a 6 week lay off at start of season, he's hardly overplayed. He needs to have better final ball, his build up play is very good but his final pass and finishing is diabolical, that's nothing to do with overplaying. He certainly missed sturridge though

 

 

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Coutinho. Is he being a bit shit due to having to play with undescended bollocks like Cissokho behind him?

 

Discuss.

yeah I'm with you on this, but not to any great degree. I think he's also a Hendo type, very much a confidence player.

 

 

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Coutinho's dip in form has fuck all to do with Cissokho (or anyone else for that matter), Coutinho's dip in form is because of Coutinho. First it was the poor finishing and I think that is effecting his confidence so now he is over hitting passes. The weekend was the time to bench him and go with 3 in the middle. It was only when we become a balanced side did we look more of a threat as a team. Come the Everton, of Sterling or Coutinho has to be benched and on current form it should be Coutinho.

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