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Are you ok with what it would cost to land Virgil Van Dyke?

    Southampton's Virgil Van Dijk has uttered the six worst words in the English language (© Bill Kenwright) and told City and Chelsea “I want to play for Liverpool”. A reported salary of 200k a week has been agreed and all that remains is for the Reds to strike a deal with Southampton, who are holding out for a fee of up to £60m. So, is it too much, or does it not matter?

Obviously there remains some way to go but I'll be made up if this deal comes off as it addresses so many concerns directly: we don't spend big on both wages and fee; we don't take players other big clubs want; we don't get our number one targets; we lack a dominant centre half who suits our game. 

 

Virgil Van Dijk is a top class player without a weakness in his game: pace, aggression, strength, aerial ability, good on the ball - he's got the lot. I know the line is "one player doesn't change a defence" but a fully fit VVD with Hendo in the side ahead of him takes the pressure right off the full backs to be so relentlessly up and down as they can plug those gaps that have been our Achilles heel this season. 

 

That all said, the prospective fee is such that I don't think we could've quibbled if the club had backed out. However, assuming it gets done, this deal is arguably the biggest statement of intent the club has ever made as it would smash our record fee at a time when we are way below the standing in the game we had when we did it repeatedly in the 70s and 80s. 

 

It also represents a huge backing of the manager and his judgement as well as showing that Michael Edwards is climbing/being shoved out of the shadows and putting his neck on the block as he should. 
And besides, The Mancs paid £30m for Rio Ferdinand over a decade ago which seemed insane at the time until it dawned on me one day that he was one of the best defenders in the world with an array of medals to prove it. 

 

Assuming we get this deal done (and the ones for Salah and Keita too) the best element of it for me is that it shuts down all the excuses as a club and puts the manager in a position to deliver trophies. He then needs to do so. 

 

I really hope this comes off. I know I'm a fool for getting way ahead of things, but the idea of a Liverpool side markedly strengthened by VVD, Salah, Keita and a new left back, marauding all over teams in that boss new blood Red kit is pretty tantalising. 

 

So get it done Reds - with one proviso: no-one is allowed to give him the shit nickname "Dick".
 

Paul Natton

@OxtonSoulBoy

 



 
If nothing else, it’s a massive statement of intent from both the manager and the owners that we mean business this summer. I know we are working in an inflated market and I know we have a sell on clause to contend with, but the money we are talking about here is absolutely crazy. For any centre half. 

 

That’s not to say that I don’t rate Van Dijk because I do, I think he’s a really good defender. He’s quick, he’s tidy on the ball, strong in the air, chips in with goals and he marshals his team mates well – something we have been missing since Carra retired. 

 

There are plenty of positives to signing him, even spending £50m plus means that we are backing the manager and have seen off our more wealthy rivals who have trumped us in the past on several occasions. But I think at that kind of money we need to be saying “thanks but no thanks” and putting our scouts to use elsewhere.
 
I am one of the Americans’ biggest critics for not spending money on transfers and I can’t level that at them here. But it is a lack of smarts from the club – van Dijk could have been signed for just £13m. We are reactive in the market instead of proactive. 

 

I am also concerned that we are dropping this money on a player who hasn’t played since January. I know he got done in a tackle by that chav Vardy but that’s a long lay-off. That’s largely a secondary concern though as he generally doesn’t miss many matches judging by his past record. 

 

However, I am not opposed to the move because I think he’s a very good player. We will need to make other tweaks to our formation to make his presence worthwhile because a lot of our issues stem from not enough midfield coverage. But if the rest of our summer recruitment is this ambitious then this deal could prove to be a game changer, but I just think the money is too much.
 

Dan Thomas

@TLW1Dan

 


 
 

Paying up to £60m for a centre back is City, United or Chelsea behaviour. Liverpool? Nah, we don’t even spend that on the traditionally expensive positions, like centre forward for instance, so you don't expect to see us looking to shell out that kind of dough on a defender.

 

And I’m ok with that, because I wouldn’t do it either. You don’t need to. You can get quality defenders on the cheap if you know what you’re doing. Most of our best defenders over the years have cost us buttons, and even as recently as last year we were snapping up Matip on a free. 

 

We defo needed a new centre back, but what’s up with going and finding another Matip or a Sami Hyypia, and using the big money on getting a superstar forward player? I don’t think that’s an unreasonable expectation, but here’s the thing - Klopp wants Virgil Van Dijk and doesn’t seem to care how much it will cost to get him. 

 

So if that’s what he wants, then fine. I’ve moaned for years about the penny pinching approach to transfers and the total lack of interest in competing with our rivals for top players. Usually we just walk away and don’t even bother, so this Van Dijk thing is actually pretty exciting, especially as it's being reported he's turned down other offers because he wants to come here. 

 

As long as it doesn’t impact on our ability to bring in the other players we need then I’m not going to complain about whatever we pay for Van Dijk because it's clear now that Klopp is now calling the shots and the days of Michael Edwards and his "computer says no" approach to transfers looks to be over. It's shame it cost us Deli Alli and probably an extra £25m to land Mohamed Salah, but hey ho.
 
Money aside, he looks like he’s a perfect fit for us. When we played Southampton at their place in the league cup semi, it felt like every ball we put in the box was drawn to him like a magnet. He won everything in the air and seemed to clear every cross. Earlier in the season when we’d played them in the league, twice he was able to beat Mané to a through ball, so the guy can run too. There's a reason everyone wants him, so if we get him then I'll be busting out the Jean Claude dancing gifs.

 

Dave Usher

@theliverpoolway

 


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He must've spoken to someone as he was impressed by klopps vision for the club and he was told he'd get whatever city were offering.

Southampton are being wankers though.

True but he might have just heard Wijnaldum discussing it and thought that's good. Of course no one else does it though....

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Crazy price but I would be made up if we got him I thought mane was a crazy price too but his performances have made me forget about the price, hopefully Van Dijk can do the same, if it goes ahead of course. Shouldn't we get some kind of Southampton discount card at this stage customer loyalty and all that.

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I am absolutely ok with the rumoured price.  It seems pretty clear that he's not our only target, and it seems clear that the club are willing to invest indecent players in this window.  I'll be happier once he's committed pen to paper, but no issues so far.

Hope he doesn't expose himself

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Southampton now reporting us for tapping up.

What a load of bollocks that is, it's the equivalent of doping in athletics. Everyone does it in some form or other. Everyone knows it. Everyone pretends to hitch their skirts up over other people doing it.

Southampton will have spoken to their own targets this summer to check they're up for it, well before they speak to their clubs.

And anyway, half his old team mates are on our books so he no doubt just chatted to them about how awesome Klopp is.

Surely they will have to report city and Chelsea?
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I am absolutely ok with the rumoured price.  It seems pretty clear that he's not our only target, and it seems clear that the club are willing to invest indecent players in this window.  I'll be happier once he's committed pen to paper, but no issues so far.

This,  If we want to keep Klopp then we have to back him when he wants to compete in the market for established talent. 25 mil buys a Markovic or a Lovren these days and most of these players don't step up to the next level, I'll be delighted if we stop monitoring the fuck out of target players and sign a few more of them

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Too much for a defender?

 

 

Hmmm..

 

A. Entrance to Anfield next season; 55.000 specs paying 55£ for 19 matches = 57M

 

B. Buying VVD = 60M

 

 

I've got the solution for you John Henry- Eureka!

 

 

  1. Don't spend a penny on a new central defender. Keep Wisdom at Anfield and stick with what we've got

     

  2. Reduce entrance fees by 50%

     

  3. Make yourself a profit of 30M. Buy a new house, a new car, a diamond ring to your babe and don't be shy about it. I promise you the fans will be happy.

     

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Surely they will have to report city and Chelsea?

Confirmation then that's not his destination though otherwise they would have. Assume this'll be dropped as soon as a fee is agreed?

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Plus, we have spent a fraction of our income these last few years. 

 

We made a loss in the last accounts and had a cash balance of 8 million, obviously we don't know how this year's accounts look but I don't know where this idea we're sitting on a massive unspent cash reserve comes from.

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Don't care about fees, it's not my money. 

 

It is.

 

It's a broader issue than a single transfer but I don't know how supporters (liverpool or otherwise) can complain about the cost of football for supporters while scoffing at sponsorship deals and demanding clubs spend millions on players yet don't see the link.

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I'll put it this way.

 

If you get a bus instead of a Taxi it's cheaper, but you have to walk to the bus stop, wait for said bus and hope it turns up in time. You then have to sit on said bus as it trundles its way to your destination, get off the bus and in most cases walk the rest of the way to your final destination. 

 

If you get a Taxi instead of a bus it costs more, but in general you get from A-B a shit load faster. 

 

Taxi for me. 

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I'll put it this way.

 

If you get a bus instead of a Taxi it's cheaper, but you have to walk to the bus stop, wait for said bus and hope it turns up in time. You then have to sit on said bus as it trundles its way to your destination, get off the bus and in most cases walk the rest of the way to your final destination.

 

If you get a Taxi instead of a bus it costs more, but in general you get from A-B a shit load faster.

 

Taxi for me.

 

Where does the Babelcopter fit into your analogy mate, is it one rung below JWH's Yacht or one rung above Ayre's Harley?
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Where does the Babelcopter fit into your analogy mate, is it one rung below JWH's Yacht or one rung above Ayre's Harley?

 

Haha, Ayre's Harley has left 1860 Munich. 

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To answer the thread question:

 

Not really. The quoted £60m is excessive. But if it serves as a statement of intent, and we get our primary targets this window (as is looking more likely than previous summers) then I'll be happy about that aspect of it.

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