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"That's Football" by John Brennan

“That’s football!” Funny, I’d love to see him turn to the Main Stand when we concede yet another goal that’ll be soon be a GIF and hear what he has to say. “That’s shite!” Or, maybe, “That’s what we’ve been working on at Melwood all week!”

 

Nah, I didn’t think so either. It’s hard to be grumpy after the attacking performance we saw on Tuesday but I’ll give it a good shot.

 

Firstly, the self-congratulatory “That’s football!” He just can’t help himself, this guy. If he spent as much time working on our defensive problems as he does geeing up the crowd, then we’d be a lot better off. Heck, we might even have finished third last season and avoided two extra games in August. His foray towards The Kop after the game? He’s got almost everyone eating out of his hands, hasn’t he?

 

Anyway, did we win something the other night? You would have been forgiven for thinking so, given the eulogistic post-game interviews. We’ve qualified for the group stages of the European Cup. Yippee! That’s a snarky “Yippee”, as you’ll have gathered, unlike Klopp’s, which was genuine. “Lost in translation”, no doubt. Now that we’re there we could go far. I agree with Dave – these two-legged games suit us much better. Lose 3-2 in Maribor? Possible. Annihilate them 9-3 at Anfield? More than likely. That’s the way this team works.

 

So, Hoffenheim? Well that was exhilarating, fast, incisive, probing, out-of-your-seat football. It brought us back to the best days 2014 when Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling and Gerrard were destroying anyone who crossed their path. Any time this team attacks, it looks like scoring. The danger comes from everyone and everywhere.

 

Klopp has created this, let there be no equivocation. He deserves and has got credit for that. The jury is out on Salah, obviously, as he’s been here just a month. But based on what we’ve seen so far, it augurs well for the season. Mané, a Klopp signing – for which he also deserves credit – is outstanding. Firmino gets better with every game; Klopp also deserves credit for getting the best out of him and putting players around him who complement his game. Pace, allied to vision and intelligence is a lethal combination. We are in for a treat this season. No team can live with this team in full flow.

 

Where it could come crumbling down is the pressure these front men are under to produce. Game after game, will it be possible? Last season, we played 47 games in total (38 + 6 League Cup + 3 FA Cup). By my calculations, we have 30 games before the end of December. And more if we progress in the League Cup. In December alone we have SEVEN league games and our last European Cup group game (2nd, 6th, 9th, 13th, 16th, 23rd, 26th, 30th).

 

These guys are brilliant but will they be able to produce 2 or 3 goals every week? Can we rely on others (like Sturridge and Solanke) to pick up the slack? What happens when the inevitable injuries take their toll? With this team, one goal is rarely enough – and those are the days we could suffer.

 

The reason, of course, that one is rarely enough is because of our defence. In those 47 games last season, we conceded two (or more) 12 times. As long as that’s the case, this team can’t win anything. There is a developing narrative of a defence and attack “trade-off”, alluded to by Dave in the Hoffenheim match report.

 

It goes something like the following: “we’re so attack-minded that you have to be prepared to conceded goals.” The premise is that we’ll score enough to win most of our games. Except we probably won’t. Our front men are going to have off-days and when they do, we can’t rely on our defence to keep clean sheets. Hoffenheim opened us up at will at times. Better teams – ones who can defend AND attack – are going to cause us all sorts of problems. Even Watford – WATFORD! – did it to us the first day.

 

The average goal difference to win the Title in the last five seasons has been +47. Given the rate at which we concede goals, we’re going to have to score well over 90 to have a chance at the Title this season, or, at least, to be in contention. In a 50+-game season in all competitions, I’m not sure we can. The winning of trophies will depend on our defence bailing the front men out at times. Goodness knows, they owe Mané, Firmino and company one. That too “is football”.

 

 

John Brennan

@JohnAPBrennan


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All is well now, isn't it?

 

We were great today. Albeit against a shit Arsenal team.

 

Two clean sheets in a row, nonetheless. Rampant front men. Pace and power. Great way to go in to the international break. We'll see how long it lasts.

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Is that going to be the stock answer on here now?

 

"Bring back Hodgson!"

 

"Bring back 6-1 defeats against Stoke!"

 

If things improve, I'll be the first to say it. Actually, here goes: seven clean sheets in our last ten league games is a sign of progress. Before that is was one in our previous ten!

 

If we do it over the course of the season, with these front men, we could win the fucking thing, which is what I've been saying all along.

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Is that going to be the stock answer on here now?

 

"Bring back Hodgson!"

 

"Bring back 6-1 defeats against Stoke!"

 

If things improve, I'll be the first to say it. Actually, here goes: seven clean sheets in our last ten league games is a sign of progress. Before that is was one in our previous ten!

 

If we do it over the course of the season, with these front men, we could win the fucking thing, which is what I've been saying all along.

 

Things have improved since Klopp became the manager.  He can't create a winning team overnight but he's getting there, slowly but surely. 

 

Singling out something as trivial as a goal celebration is churlish. 

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Things have improved since Klopp became the manager.  He can't create a winning team overnight but he's getting there, slowly but surely. 

 

Singling out something as trivial as a goal celebration is churlish. 

It's not just that. Anyway, today is a good day. Need more of them.

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Is that going to be the stock answer on here now?

 

"Bring back Hodgson!"

 

"Bring back 6-1 defeats against Stoke!"

 

If things improve, I'll be the first to say it. Actually, here goes: seven clean sheets in our last ten league games is a sign of progress. Before that is was one in our previous ten!

 

If we do it over the course of the season, with these front men, we could win the fucking thing, which is what I've been saying all along.

I think if you're writing regular critiques of the manager, or match reports which seem to focus on the manager, less than 2 years into the job after two finals and CL qualification you have to expect that it's not going to go down well with some people. Some replies may not be very well thought out or will display a lack of effort, but it is tiresome constructing arguments about our 4th manager in 7 years.

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I understand that John is one of the old guard and Dave's mate , but so are likes of Paul , and he doesn't expect his musings to be handed down under TLW content on tablets of stone.

 

Some valid points of course but the arbitrary dislike of Klopp permeates every sentence he writes and detract from a lot of the comments he is trying to make.

 

Tablets of stone? Anyone who writes an article has it posted up under TLW Content because that's the only real uniform way of doing it. Paul had an article posted up after one of the games recently and there's been a couple from Jason Harris too.

 

Anyone is free to write, so anyone that wants to take the opposite line to John is more than welcome to write something and it will be posted up on a tablet of stone!

 

I'd like a few more articles on the site, even if they are only long-form posts. It's nice to have a permanent record of what people thought at the time that can be accessed easily. Speaking of which, what has become of the Diary?

 

Still being posted on the members forum every month, and here

 

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Haha. Yeah but only when preaching to the converted, eh?

 

There's clearly a difference of opinion and I'm clearly in the minority. Not "preaching" to anyone.

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I think my attitude to Klopp is probably somewhere near Dave U's - cautious and unwilling to get carried away. Some of the stuff he comes out with can seem a bit like self-parody, and I do wonder about his ability to organise a defence. On the flip side he wants us to play attractive, attacking football, we're great to watch and his enthusiasm does seem to rub off on the players and many fans. He's a major improvement on the previous three managers and he has the potential to take us further than Rafa or Ged did. 

 

Having said that, there is no need to write snarky articles pouring cold water on reasonable achievements or criticising  players and the manager for being pleased with having achieved their minimum target. It may 'only' be the group stages of the European Cup, but that' more than we've had for 6 of the last 7 years. Of course that shouldn't be an end  in itself, but we have fallen a hell of a long way over the last 25 + years and we are entitled to celebrate every time we haul ourselves part of the way up,provided that we realise we have to fight just to stand still year on year, let alone improve. 

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I think criticism of a manager is fair under the right circumstances. I don't agree that a qualification game for the CL where we put 6 goals past the 'tricky' opposition over two games is the right time or place for it though.

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