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A Few Thoughts from the Match: Leicester City 2 Liverpool 3

1. 3 points. Is right!
 

2. It was never comfortable was it? At two-nil I thought we’d need at least one more (and possibly two) and so it proved. 
 

3. I can’t believe people are criticising Salah’s finishing. That was his sixth of the season. He plays wide forward, his figures are better than one in two, he’s only just arrived at Liverpool and he’d previously had less than twenty games in English football. What more could anyone possibly ask for?
 

4. I’m now all in on Team Mig. He’s never going to be a true great, but the lad is now a very good keeper with no real weaknesses in my view. He was ripped off for the pen but saved it anyway, dealt with all kinds of aerial bombs and his kicking has improved exponentially. People throwing mud his way now are not watching what’s in front their eyes in my opinion. 
 

5. It’s now clear that Jurgen “development/long term” Klopp will keep selecting players whose form is variable (at best). Generally, of these young experimental picks, Gomez has looked one of the more reliable. The space he gave Albrighton in the run up to their second though was shocking. Still looks the best bet of the young defenders to me though (Trent is a midfielder surely?). 
 

6. Coutinho was superb while on the pitch. The whole back injury thing was embarrassing but I’m not especially arsed by anything else regarding him from the summer. We did very well to keep him on this evidence. 
 

7. I thought Hendo was very good today, too. 
 

8. Daniel Sturridge oozed class when he came on. With a more robust body he’d be an all-time Liverpool great by now. No doubt. I’ll settle for this though. We were right to keep him. 
 

9. Firmino had a stinker. He never stopped running though so he gets a pass. 
 

10. I feel much better after a win, no matter how tight. That said, in the context of the way The Mancs and especially City have started the season, we’ve been mediocre. The attack needs to be more ruthless and the defence needs a revolution. For tonight though, it feels good to just have a win. Roll on Moscow. 

 

Paul Natton

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Red74

There seems to be some sort of link between us having our last great keeper and us last winning the league.

 

Good job we're a club and fan base who've stuck to the ideals of what led to our dominance (and it was dominance) of this league and Europe. I'd hate it if we ever got to the stage where failure is seen as success.

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Chip Butty

The only thing Clemence couldn't do was kick straight.  The number of long goal kicks that would find touch would have Jonny Wikinson envious.  

 

Evidently there was a competition between him and Zico on who could curl the better looking ball into the Kemlyn road and sparko any un-alert fan. 

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Trumo

The only thing Clemence couldn't do was kick straight.  The number of long goal kicks that would find touch would have Jonny Wikinson envious.  

 

There's a Bob Paisley anecdote about Clemence's goal kicks. Apparently, when it was a bit windy, Clemence used to look up at the flags atop the Kemlyn before taking goal kicks. Paisley noticed and thought Clemence was over-thinking things and becoming anxious. So before the next home game, Paisley asked for the flags to be removed from the flagpoles. With that frame of reference gone, Clemence's goal kicks improved immeasurably. I'm not sure if the anecdote is 100% right but that's the gist of it.

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Brownie

Reina was one of the top three keepers in the league for a few years.

 

He's still better than all of our keepers now.

Is he shite.

 

Reina was boss for a few years but he was a complete liability by the end.

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suzy

There's a Bob Paisley anecdote about Clemence's goal kicks. Apparently, when it was a bit windy, Clemence used to look up at the flags atop the Kemlyn before taking goal kicks. Paisley noticed and thought Clemence was over-thinking things and becoming anxious. So before the next home game, Paisley asked for the flags to be removed from the flagpoles. With that frame of reference gone, Clemence's goal kicks improved immeasurably. I'm not sure if the anecdote is 100% right but that's the gist of it.

Great story! I'd love that to be true. Clemence was the best -Paisley wasn't bad either!

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There's a Bob Paisley anecdote about Clemence's goal kicks. Apparently, when it was a bit windy, Clemence used to look up at the flags atop the Kemlyn before taking goal kicks. Paisley noticed and thought Clemence was over-thinking things and becoming anxious. So before the next home game, Paisley asked for the flags to be removed from the flagpoles. With that frame of reference gone, Clemence's goal kicks improved immeasurably. I'm not sure if the anecdote is 100% right but that's the gist of it.

 

Hehe. It was because Ray was a left footed kicker but dropped the ball from his right hand so he was always kicking across the ball. Most keepers are right handed, right foot kickers but nowadays, most keepers will throw the ball in front of them and kick it dead from the ground. They dont 'drop' kick it as often as Ray's time due to the back pass rule and not allowed to pick it up from a teammate.

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dave u

100% on the officials?

 

Do you think they score if we have Neuer in goal? Really? Oblak? De Gea? Courtois? 

 

He is a soft, nervy, timid keeper that doesn't even command the six yard box, let alone the 18 yard box. If he's too short, or too weak, then they are further reasons to fuck him off.

 

It just happens too much.

 

Obviously, he isn't helped by having a steaming heap of shite infront of him, but then they could argue the same about him. 

 

Him, Lovren and Moreno weren't good enough three years and yet they're still fixtures in the team. We aren't winning anything with these clowns.

 

No question about it, they aren't getting that ball either with Okazaki hanging off their left arm.

 

The rest of your post is all worthy of discussion, but blaming Mignolet for that first goal is just daft in my opinion.

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3 Stacks

Gomez has potential but I'd rather see him get games at CB than right back.

 

I think he's been absolutely dreadful, both at right back and in the centre. That said, there are only a handful of central defenders per generation that look even decent at 20 years old, so I'm not super bothered.

 

He does seem like he has the raw ability at least, unlike someone like Flanagan

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AngryOfTuebrook

Another thing worth noting, Leicester's first shouldn't have stood of course, but it's just as well Okazaki scored it as Mignolet would certainly have been red carded for holding him back.

In fairness, by that point he probably just assumed that holding is allowed now.
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AngryOfTuebrook

No question about it, they aren't getting that ball either with Okazaki hanging off their left arm.

 

The rest of your post is all worthy of discussion, but blaming Mignolet for that first goal is just daft in my opinion.

I'm not sure I'd blame Mignolet for Vardy being left completely unmarked 8 yards oit either.
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Brownie

Have you actually watched him play since leaving us?

Yes, not as regularly as when he was here though, obviously.

 

If we took that approach to other players we’ve sold we’d end up buying a few back. What matters most is what they do in a red shirt, or in Pepe’s case, a green shirt.

 

He was woeful towards the end.

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Jairzinho

Napoli are top of Serie A after about 6 games with Reina in goal. I can only assume he's doing something right.

 

He's not as good as he was here during his three or four really good years, but he's still considerably better than Mignolet and Karius.

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The Woolster

Didn't see the game, but it's weird to see some posters state that Mignolet had a fine game, and others state that he had a shocker. This means either (a) a whole bunch of people on here are incredibly biased when it comes to player performances, or ( b  ) a lot of people simply have no idea how to judge player performances. 

 

A lot from column a, a lot from column b

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Mark M

I still can't believe anyone is defending Mignolet's performance at the weekend.  It was up there with the worst of David James's performances.

 

Mignolet is doing a Hodgson on our fans expectations of goalkeepers.

Expectations are so low now any kind of half decent performance is now deemed acceptable. 

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