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West Ham 2 Liverpool 1 (Feb 9 2016)


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Well that was just daylight - or if you like, floodlight - robbery. We didn’t deserve to go out that like, it was cruel, unfair, unlucky and also entirely self inflicted. We keep finding ways to shoot ourselves in the foot and undo a lot of the good things that are happening, and it’s absolutely killing us.

 

Over the two games we were by the better side against West Ham even though Klopp made all kinds of changes and on paper we looked significantly inferior to West Ham’s first choice eleven. Be honest, when you saw the team we sent out for this game, how did you like our chances? Lucas and Ilori at the heart of the defence and Stewart and Chirivella in the engine room? Honestly, I didn’t give us any chance of winning this game. Yet they should have won it, and all four of those players outplayed their West Ham counterparts.

 

Unfortunately the two biggest weaknesses we’ve had all season yet again floored us. What was more predictable; the host of missed chances (especially from Benteke) or conceding from a last minute set-piece? Hard to say as we’ve been missing chances all year and our set-piece defending has now become a national joke. Usually I get angry, this time I’m just gutted. Not just gutted because we’re out of the cup, but gutted for the players (particularly the younger ones) who played so well and deserved so much more.

 

From the opening seconds of this game they showed they were right at it. They passed it around in the midfield and looked very comfortable. I was surprised by just how well they started the game, but not surprised at how often they failed to capitalise on promising situations in the final third. Brad Smith was absolutely rampant in the first half, West Ham couldn’t handle him as he kept flying forward like an Olympic sprinter into space created by Coutinho moving inside. I lost count of the amount of times he got down the left and got the ball into dangerous areas.He had one or two difficult moments defensively but he must surely be pushing for Moreno's spot now?

 

There was a real swagger about the football and Teixeira and Chirivella especially looked to be enjoying themselves. Coutinho flitted in and out a bit more but was involved in a lot of our best play. He hot the post after Benteke had done superbly to pick him out. Coutinho’s initial through ball to Benteke was poor and forced him wide, but when the striker picked him out he was unlucky with the finish, which was excellently crafted.

 

West Ham had hit the woodwork themselves, twice in fact. The first when Ilori gave the ball away cheaply which allowed Payet to pick out O’Brien, whose shot was deflected by Lucas onto the post. The second was a free-kick needlessly conceded by Ibe on the edge of the box. Payet beat Mignolet all ends up but the ball crashed against the upright, and Mignolet did well to regain his feet and beat away the follow up effort.

 

West Ham will point to those two opportunities and say they deserved to be leading at the break, but they were isolated incidents in a half mostly controlled by us. So many times we got into good positions around the box but as usual, couldn’t turn it into goals. Joao missed a glorious chance when he dragged his shot wide and Benteke had two efforts saved on the line after getting round the back on corner kicks. He’d earlier done the same and nodded one back into the danger area but Teixeira couldn’t turn on it to get a shot in. It was the most dangerous we’d looked from corners all season.

 

Then the inevitable happened. Just before half time we conceded. When a goal goes in against us we always look for someone to blame. Whose fault was it? Who could have done better? That kind of thing. With this one I’m struggling to point any fingers. Maybe Smith /was sucked in a little too far? I don’t know, but the fact the cross was deflected may well have played a part as it meant the ball sat up perfectly for that LeBron James tribute act, Micheil Antonio, at the back post, who finished brilliantly into the corner giving Mignolet absolutely no chance. A massive kick in the balls, but nothing to what would happen later.

 

Still, we came out brightly to start the second half and drew level almost immediately. Benteke won a free kick on the edge of the box, and with everybody expecting Coutinho to try and curl one over the wall into the corner, the sneaky little bastard just casually rolled it under them as they jumped, and the keeper was beaten all ends up. Impudent, brilliant, welcome back, Phil.

 

He was never going to last the whole game and it was no surprise when he was brought off after an hour as Klopp made a double change. I was surprised that Joao was the other one replaced though. Ibe had done nothing and I was sure he’d be the first one off. Teixeira can feel a little hard done by I think.

 

It was a really attacking line up now though, with Ibe and Origi on the wings and Sturridge and Benteke up top. That meant more responsibility for the two kids in the middle of the park, but they stood up to the challenge well. West Ham brought on Carroll and went even more direct than before, but Lucas and Ilori competed well and Mignolet helped out when necessary. He flapped at one cross but was otherwise fine.

 

Both sides had chances to win it in the second half but it was in extra time when the chances really started coming thick and fast, mostly to us. Benteke shot wide from near the penalty spot and a minute later fluffed yet another one v one with the keeper after a lovely one two with Sturridge. Did anyone think he was going to put that away? He then headed just over after attacking a cross and it was obvious at that point it wasn’t going to be his night.

 

If only one of those chances had fell to Sturridge we’d probably have gone through. He had a great effort from 20 yards that went inches wide and it was clear from soon after he came on that he was head and shoulders better than anybody else on that pitch. He’s just so fucking good, that’s why people are so pissed off with him. If he’d been fit all season we’d be in the top four, I’ve got no doubt about that.

 

Just how long he’ll be available for nobody knows, but we’ll be a completely different team any time he’s in it. I thought he’d won it for us late on when he made a great near post run and produced a clever flick from Flanno’s cross but that big lumbering bastard James Collins inadvertently got in the way. Why is it that fucker turns into Franco Baresi every time he faces us?

 

Flanno had almost scored seconds earlier when he got his head on a corner but had it blocked, and it was remarkable seeing how he got stronger in extra time. You’d think he’d have been out on his feet but he was still surging into their box in the last couple of minutes of the extra time. Hell of an effort by him. By all of them actually, you could see that there were a lot of tired legs out there; Ilori looked goosed after an hour, Smith had cramp and Stewart pushed himself through the pain barrier too, he was lucky not to suffer a broken leg after a lunge by that Valencia twat.

 

West Ham’s players had been hitting the deck more than a black jack dealer, especially Valencia. He probably should have had a penalty when he was tugged back by Ilori but his theatrical fall probably counted against him. Not really sure what the difference was between that theatrical fall and all the others that the ref awarded as fouls, not least the one in stoppage time at the end of extra time that resulted in the winning goal. Actually the difference was probably just that it wasn’t in the box.

 

I feel for Lucas, as that was never a free-kick. Maybe he could have been a little smarter by not putting his hands on Valencia, but if that’s a foul then there are a hundred of those every game. Valencia backed in, Lucas put his hands on his back to stop him, and the twat flung himself to the floor. It was a great ball in and a brilliant header, but maybe we've got to be a bit more cynical and hold people in the box to stop them getting a free run at these crosses? Stewart didn't stay tight enough to Ogbonna but would he have won the header anyway? 

 

We defended set-pieces well all night but if you keep giving them away eventually it will prove costly. I can’t point the finger at Lucas for this though, as his performance was fucking tremendous and as I say, that was never a free kick in a million years. Positionally he was brilliant all night, he made tackles, won headers, and he organised those around him. A real captain’s performance and he didn’t deserve for that to happen at the end. None of them did. Except maybe Benteke.

 

If anyone carries blame for this it’s him, but even so I find it hard to lay into him too much. I’ve hammered him at times this season because he just wasn’t doing the things he’s supposed to do and was having no positive impact on games. Often he didn’t even look arsed. I don’t think that applies this time. His all round performance was good and he brought a lot to the side, especially after the introductions of Sturridge and Origi who were running off him.

 

Honestly I’ll take this level of performance from him all day if it’s on offer. Obviously the finishing was unacceptable and that’s why we’re out of the cup, but as Klopp said afterwards all strikers have these kind of runs and Benteke’s confidence must be at rock bottom at the moment. Kicking him while he’s down isn’t going to do any good, and hopefully Klopp will be trying to build him up by emphasising the positives in his display.

 

Things are pretty shit for us right now, it feels like we just can’t get anything going. Even when we play well we find it hard to win and there’s all the other shit going on off the field over the fans being fleeced. Klopp must be wondering just what he’s gotten himself into, but maybe there’s light at the end of this tunnel? We’ve got a cup final to look forward to soon and we’ve got some of our injured forwards back.

 

If we can keep them fit then the season can still be salvaged, but perhaps it’s time to play some of these second stringers ahead of certain under-achieving “first choice” players, like Can, Moreno and Ibe for example?

 

Star man is Lucas, with honourable mentions to Smith, Chirivella and Stewart.

 

Team: Mignolet; Flanagan, Ilori, Lucas, Smith; Stewart, Chirivella (Milner); Ibe, Teixeira (Sturridge), Coutinho (Sturridge); Benteke:


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I think it's time for us to prioritize the Europa league from now in. Once we get to 40 points (yes, I'm still looking at that) then we should be looking at playing our first choice team(whatever that is,is anyone's guess) and the second choice team for the league. If we win the Europa League we can get Champions League football. I don't see us getting there through the League.

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I was completely fed up with Benteke last night but having had a bit of time to get over the loss I agree that at least he was getting into the right sort of positions to miss the chances and that's something he's not always been doing this season. Sadly he reminds me a bit of Heskey with his finishing. He'll bury the difficult chances instinctively but when he has time to think about it he'll panic and miss like he has done with every one on one he's had recently.

 

I agree that Europa League should be the priority for us now. There's the league cup final of course but win or lose that's only one game and will soon be out of the way. Last week's results killed off any lingering hopes we might have had of making a run at the top 4. Although which players should be held back for the most important games is very debateable as most of the supposed backups have looked better than the first team players recently.

 

We really do look a completely different team in attack with Sturridge on the pitch. It just seems to add to the torture of watching our incompetent displays usually though knowing we actually have this top quality forward who would change everything if he would just stay fit for a run of games for a change.

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Agree with you about Benteke but if you pay £30m+ for a striker goals are essential not an option.

That was one of the worst refereeing displays I've ever seen. It seemed he was making decisions entirely at random, almost on the basis of every third appeal would bring a foul. He made Kevin Friend look good.

Thought the two substitutions weakened us as we lost a bit of control in midfield. It didn't help that Origi was woeful when he came on.

Like almost everyone I've been impressed with the performances in the two games against West Ham and particularly the displays of the less experienced players. It does beg the question as to what our best team actually is and whether the youngsters are very good or the senior players just woefully mediocre.

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What amazes me with Benteke is that everyone knew he would miss that one on one yet the other week he was cool as fuck and took arguably the best penalty against Stoke.

So why cant he be that clinical in open play?

I still wouldn't bet against him scoring the winner against City and winning a cup before he's fucked off, football has a funny habit of throwing things up like that..........I hope.

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Benteke's gash. We'd still be in the cup if he was anything like a decent striker.

 

Some fans bashed mignolet again but I dont think anything he did was wrong and cost us.

 

Lucas deffo MoTM. That was probably one of his best ever games for us. People say he gives needless fouls but any defensive mid who's doing his job is going to get through a lot of tackles on and around the edge of the box especially when oppo players chuck themselves to the ground all the time.

 

Must admit, though smith was well off his man for the first goal but as has been said, otherwise had an exceptional game as did flanno once again.

 

We should have defended that last minute ET winner though, Ilori, Flanno and Stewart(?) all went for the same ball but the west ham player climbed higher than any of them to nod across mignolet into the net. Were you watching benteke?

 

It was great to see sturridge and origi back. Clearly rusty, sturridge still managed to show his class. Lets hope he can stay fit.

 

Ibe, what a massive disappointment. What's happened to the lad?

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Ibe, what a massive disappointment. What's happened to the lad?

 

I think Klopp is trying to turn him into a man, and a player. Hard to figure his being left out, taken out, not subbed in, other than for that. He's sulked and pouted a bit and needs that driven out of him. Remember at the end of Norwich, where he'd sulkily been subbed, and Klopp bear hugging him at the end?

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I think Klopp is trying to turn him into a man, and a player. Hard to figure his being left out, taken out, not subbed in, other than for that. He's sulked and pouted a bit and needs that driven out of him. Remember at the end of Norwich, where he'd sulkily been subbed, and Klopp bear hugging him at the end?

everybody trying to figure out what he is including himself.

 

hes at his best cutting in and shooting. his crossing is shocking and when he tries totake it to the line hes runs out of pitch more often than not.

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Good stuff,I think mignolet tipped that free kick on to the post,that stamp on Stewart was fuck'n horrendous and not one of them analysts even mentions it,agree about how good all the lads played but especially about Lucas,he should have known though as soon as he put his hands on Valencia that he would go down and that ref who was shit all night would give a free kick,goin out like that just sums up the way it's going for us at the moment.lets just hope jelly muscles can stay fit for a few weeks at least,I reckon him and pound shop luis could get something goin,here's hoping

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Agree with you that we need to be more cynical defending set pieces. Skrtel has been hammered time and again for his shirt pulling.... Thing is.... Refs almost never punish it. How many goals has he saved  over the years? How many times has he given away a penalty for it? The math is simple.

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