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#5123480 Donald Trump

Posted by Moctezuma on 20 June 2018 - 07:40 AM

That slide into fascism seems to be working out well for them...


I think it's partially a product of a two party system where you have to treat the one of the parties as legitimate even when they are a gang of hyper right-wing fascist racist misogynistic accelerationists.


It's notable that the vast majority of their press is still going down the route of "How dare you, Sir!" rather than advocating for protests and physical confrontation to the abuses being perpetrated. I think in part it's because they have been softened up to the notion of stopping brown people entering their country, as they know that a tidal wave of humanity will be washing up on their shores (metaphorically obviously) when climate change kicks in. Which of course they have been heavily involved in perpetrating*.


Children of Men yeah!




* Was an excellent Peter Oborne piece on this in From our own correspondent the other day about the "taste of climate change"


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#5118027 Should the UK remain a member of the EU

Posted by Moctezuma on 12 June 2018 - 04:25 PM

Two years after the Referendum, it's worth remembering that the choice was "Keep what you've got, or trade it for the Mystery Box."



Now the box has been opened and everyone can see it contains a dying rat and a human turd, a large proportion of the population still want to keep the box.


What the fuck is wrong with people?


It's psychological people hate to be told that they were wrong/made a poorly informed decision.


The thing that irritates me is it's my generation and those who are younger who will bear the brunt of this fucking shambles, the olds (the vast majority of whom voted for it) will continue to be protected and pandered to at every opportunity. The only ramification for them might be when the local geriatric ward closes because there are no more Portuguese to wipe their backsides.

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#5109599 Donald Trump

Posted by Moctezuma on 01 June 2018 - 08:55 AM

Which American goods would you slap a massive tariff on? I'd go for


Hollywood remakes

Fox News

Herseys 'Choclate'


Tax dodging bawbags Apple


Crap Ideas from their endless series of right wing think tanks

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#5104556 Real Madrid - The European Cup final

Posted by Moctezuma on 26 May 2018 - 09:54 PM

He didn't look fit. Wrong decision to bring him on imo.


Aye we should have brought on Moreno or Solanke instead.


Fucking FSG, that's the route cause of us not being able to get over the line in recent seasons.

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#5101817 Do you like looking at maps?

Posted by Moctezuma on 24 May 2018 - 07:09 AM

Danny Dorling and his team have put together some excellent maps on this site:



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#5101814 Do you like looking at maps?

Posted by Moctezuma on 24 May 2018 - 07:07 AM

Map showing the location of pigeon stations connecting Moscow to the front in 1941



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#5101805 Do you like looking at maps?

Posted by Moctezuma on 24 May 2018 - 07:00 AM

Map of short lived states that emerged around the russian revolution a large version is here: https://c1.staticfli...5e318d549_o.png



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#5100415 Monarchy

Posted by Moctezuma on 21 May 2018 - 07:11 PM

But that’s not the case is it? I post in the Trump thread all the time, don’t get any push back there because you agree with me. Weird that you seem to think the Economist is some far right mouthpiece too.




Excellent Rico, this really made my day, that magazine... Indonesia is at a cross roads, millennials should rent out their toilets to pay off student debt, Nigeria's oil wealth is being used in a corrupt fashion, we should privatise the NHS, a new study has found you make better decisions when you sleep more, everyone should be able to code, Donald Trump is bad for the republican party, pay low wage workers less it makes them work harder, how captain cook sailed the globe etc...

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#5044083 Litvinenko the sequel

Posted by Moctezuma on 18 March 2018 - 04:46 PM

Small tactical nuke on the Kensington/Westminster boarder. 

To be fair Kensington is currently a Labour seat and has recently been through Grenfell, so I would assume will remain so.


Would love it if Momentum's coordinated campaign in Uxbridge gets rid of our fucking useless self-interested foreign secretary.

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#5043816 Cambridge Analytica

Posted by Moctezuma on 18 March 2018 - 01:04 PM

Watching that blurts interview on the Guardian yesterday was one of the clearest examples I've seen of someone who is crushingly stupid thinking they are intelligent due to having a specific skill set that is being manipulated by others, a stark contrast to Edward Snowden. At least the dipshit has had the gumption to speak about what they were up to, though it did seem almost akin to boasting, now no doubt he'll have a nice soft career as a media talking head, instead of having any sanction thrown against him.

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#5031778 Roy Hodgson, know your role and shut your mouth

Posted by Moctezuma on 04 March 2018 - 09:37 PM

Nah. The cunt won’t do us any favours. He won’t want to upset his good friend

27 November 2010: “’Liverpool will get worse and worse’ is what he said”
Everyone I know in football respects the job I’m doing here and aren’t too surprised it hasn’t been an easy start. In fact, 95 per cent would have predicted it as [Jose] Mourinho did. ‘Liverpool will get worse and worse’ is what he said and if the great man Mourinho says it, I don’t know why you don’t quote him.
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#5018846 Should the UK remain a member of the EU

Posted by Moctezuma on 15 February 2018 - 09:34 AM

I find Johnson's enduring popularity utterly bizarre, even the average person who isn't politically engaged must realise at a bare minimum he is one of the most self-interested politicians going?

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#5013498 Should the UK remain a member of the EU

Posted by Moctezuma on 08 February 2018 - 10:54 AM



This somewhat misses out issues around national identity (plus which paper you read) and perhaps misses the fact that more of the younger population have qualifications than older voters, but is interesting nonetheless.


Brexit was not the voice of the working class nor of the uneducated – it was of the squeezed middle

Lorenza Antonucci, Laszlo Horvath, and André Krouwelchallenge the popular view of Leave voters as those left behind educationally and financially. They explain why it is individuals from an intermediate class, whose financial position has been declining, that represent an important section of the Brexit vote.


Over the past year or so, Brexit has been interpreted as the symbol of a historical shift to anti-establishment politics, kicking off a surge in the ‘outsider’ vote across Europe and the United States. In line with this narrative, initial interpretations of the vote depicted Leave voters as marginalised segments of the population – both educationally and economically – who had channelled their discontent through the referendum.

Another popular view that emerged is that Brexit was the unified response of the working class which finally found its long-lost voice. Yet subsequent, rigorous analysis showed that the profile of Brexit voters is more heterogeneous than initially thought, and that it includes voters with high education and ‘middle class’ jobs. If Brexit is really connected to socio-economic factors, how do we make sense of this apparent contradiction?

For our own study, we implemented a unique set of questions in a post-referendum survey, focusing on the ‘ordinary Brits’ – the intermediate class. This intermediate class refers to ‘ordinary’ families with intermediate or upper-intermediate levels of education, stable jobs, and median levels of income, but which nonetheless face an increasing challenge in maintaining their life-style. This term is preferred to the popularised understanding of class in the UK, which opposes the ‘working class’ to the ‘middle class’. Echoing what Joan Williams has stressed in her analysis of Trumpism, public debates discussing the popularity of populism amongst the working class in most cases refer to the impoverished middle class, rather than the poor and the left behind. Our argument is that, rather than representing the ‘left out’, Brexit was the voice of this intermediate class who are in a declining financial position. This category of voters represent a group of high sociological relevance also labeled as ‘the squeezed middle’.

Brexiters: the least educated voters?

The left-out argument has been constructed around voters whose low levels of education render them unable to compete with those with a university degree in the globalised economy. Academic research has already argued against this. For example, Goodwin and Heath show that voters with A-level education from low skilled communities had similar pro-Leave voting profiles to those with no education. With this in mind, the first set of our models looks at the probability of voting Leave within a number of educational categories, and also explores the combined effect of education with financial circumstances.

In all specifications of our regression models, we also include gender, age, and 2015 GE vote as individual level predictors, as well as cluster respondents within 11 UK regions to account for the geographical variability in the Leave vote. Samples sizes vary for these models between N=1,473 and 1,382.

Figure 1. Predicted probabilities by education (left panel) and by perceived change in financial situation (right panel).


Our findings confirm a negative relationship between education and voting Leave: the higher the level of one’s education, the lower the likelihood of them voting Leave. Our findings, however, reject the dichotomous view of the low-educated Brexiter vs the high-educated Remainer, by showing that two groups with intermediate levels of education (voters with good GSCEs and A-levels) were more pro-Leave than the low-educated (those with no formal education and with low GSCE grades).

Looking into how personal finances have changed within these education categories, we find an interesting dynamic (Figure 1). While worsening financial conditions increased the probability of voting Leave, the effect of stagnation is ambiguous. In our model, respondents with A-levels slide towards a Leave vote as their economic conditions worsen. Our model also predicts that those with lower grade GSCEs would vote Leave only if their economic conditions had not changed.

Challenging the myth of Brexit as a working class vote

A second set of models presents the impact of self-assessed social class membership and income on voting Leave. In other respects, these models are identical to the previous by controlling for individual-level demographics as well as geographical clustering. Our sample sizes, however, drop significantly as we had to recover these variables from previous waves of data collection, down to 279, meaning these results must be read with caution.

Looking at class first, we find the Leave vote to be associated with middle class identification and the more neutral ‘no class’ identification. But we find no evidence of a link with working class identification.

Self-assessment of class presents obvious limitations, but our findings become even more relevant if we consider that Britons tend to identify themselves as working class – even when holding middle class jobs. This analysis does not rule out the popularity of the Leave vote within particular working class communities, but it aims to show that the Leave vote is far from being the expression of a singular and conscious working class, as commentators assume. It instead confirms that the middle class support was very relevant to the Brexit outcome – perhaps the predominant group behind Brexit, as argued by Dorling.

We then turn to analyse whether Brexit has been supported by an intermediate group in objective terms. In order to do this, our models tease out the proportion of Leave voters within income categories. The result is partly similar to previous reports in that higher income would link to the Remain vote. Still, it is only the top quantile – the richest respondents – who slant significantly towards Remain. But we do not find enough evidence to show that the effect of income is incremental: that the intermediate class would be more likely to vote Remain than the poorest groups (Figure 2).

Figure 2. Predicted probabilities by income quantiles and class identification.


  • lick to share on Twitter (Opens in new windoOver the past year or so, Brexit has been interpreted as the symbol of a historical shift to anti-establishment politics, kicking off a surge in the ‘outsider’ vote across Europe and the United States. In line with this narrative, initial interpretations of the vote depicted Leave voters as marginalised segments of the population – both educationally and economically – who had channelled their discontent through the referendum

So, based on the above, the Leave vote was not more popular among the low skilled, but rather among individuals with intermediate levels of education (A-Levels and GSCE high grades), especially when their socio-economic position was perceived to be declining and/or to be stagnant. These findings point to an alternative narrative to that of the left behind.

This argument of the squeezed middle being behind Brexit raises new questions about how the new politics of inequality influences voting, for it shows that Brexit was the expression of a widely felt social malaise that affects ample segments of the population.

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#5012372 What you used to do on Sundays

Posted by Moctezuma on 06 February 2018 - 04:29 PM

Since the advent of the internet/computers the acreage of spare meandering time Sundays used to throw up are now more or less occupied easily. Plus as an adult there is a degree of volition as to what you can do with your time on Sundays.


However as a kid my parents used to coerce my brother and I to go to all sorts of clubs and stuff to fill up the Sunday afternoon void.


The usual running order of the day was as follows:


Transworld Sport/Football Italia on Channel 4- Excellent

Church in the morning- ugh

Bacon Breakfast (late) or Sunday Lunch

Having to go see doddery aging relatives/Being dragged to some club or activity I wasn't particularly bothered with

Homework- Jesus, what a pish way to end the weekend


I think this diet of activities indoctrinated me to hate Sundays something I've carried for evermore. That and the fact the day carries around the impending doom of school/work.


Anyone else remember what their 'day of rest' consisted of before posting rubbish endlessly/watching a sports team?

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#5007681 FSG are not shit

Posted by Moctezuma on 02 February 2018 - 01:57 PM

Anyone else just feel tired of the endless Jam tomorrow shtick?


I always used to be impressed how Klopp would have his best players sold at Dortmund but would then always be able to put together a team that could drag them to Bundesliga wins and deep into European competition (with the exception of his final season where the wheels fell off). Now however I'm not surprised that FSG went for a manager like him as it sits almost perfectly with their business model.

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