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I am deeply and possibly irrevocably upset by this news, so I wrote a poem to help me deal with it. With apologies to E.J. Thribb. So. Farewell then, Shaqiri, for us you played wide, Shaqiri, Shaqiri, your hips never lied, Today you were here but tomorrow you’re there, I loved your hair transplant, that you were a square, Against Man United, you were our wide boy, You scored a late brace, your slate face burst with joy, Your socks pulled up tight like deep red Minecraft tubes, Your skin so hair-free, did you shave all your cubes? The Germans once did, but the Swiss never bombed us, I loved you, oh Xherdan, you magical rhombus, I hope you’re reborn as a square Alpine cow, Goodnight, sweet Shaqiri; he sleeps with angles now x

“I've replied to you about five times and explained why I think the comment about Zionist Jews being incapable of getting English irony was racist. If that's not good enough for you, too bad.” So, in his entire political career, you’re taking a comment about zionists - not Jews, he didn’t mention Jews at any stage in that wilfully context-free quote - as the smoking gun, the damning evidence that he’s anti-Jewish? It’s pathetic. And no, it doesn’t answer my question at all: if Corbyn is a committed Jew hater as you seem to be suggesting, when has he said anything which specifically demonstrates his dislike of Jewish people? As my original question stated, I’m not talking about zionists, I’m talking about Jews. You already admitted Jews and Zionists are two separate things. The challenge remains. Give me a quote from his decades long political career which shows he hates Jews. Just one.

Strontium: just give me one quote which has come from Corbyn which is anti-Jewish. Just one. Third day of asking, no reply. Why?

And STILL no anti-Jewish quotes from Jeremy Corbyn, the massive anti-Semite. Come on, Strontium: give me one quote which has come from Corbyn which is anti-Jewish! Just one. Seriously. We’re all waiting.

(*how convinced. Stupid obese fingers.)

Great post, Vienticinco. Bravo. Would rep if I knew how (as a long time lurker, I’m not used to being logged in, so fuck knows). But a very detailed and even-handed post there I thought. Through all of this bluster, as you alluded to in your post, one things remains very much conspicuous by its absence: can anyone, Strontium, Rico or anyone else, please give me a quote which demonstrates clearly Corbyn saying something derogatory about Jewish people? And to be clear, I don’t mean anti-Israel, as that’s not all Jews; I don’t mean anti-Zionist, same reason; I specifically mean show me something he has said or done which is clearly and specifically evidence of his feelings of antipathy towards Jewish people simply because they are Jews and he hates them? If anyone can do that, I’ll start vilifying him myself. And that’s a promise and a guarantee. Should be fairly simple given he convinced some people on here are of his ranging anti-Semitism. In fact, there should be tonnes of evidence. I continue to await with baited breath.

It’s a shame that I’m having to explain this as I thought what I was doing was quite clear, but the reason I was using Hitler as an example was to underline the sheer bloody ridiculousness of the idea that Corbyn is an actual hater of Jews by using the most ridiculous example possible. Also, I’m still waiting to read one quote by Strontium Dog or anyone else for that matter which shows Jeremy Corbyn being in any way, shape or form an active hater of Jews. By the way, the Queen once shared a platform with Martin McGuinness. Does that also means she’s a terrorist sympathiser who wants a united Ireland?

Sorry Strontium, wrong! The answer was b - Adolf Hitler! Sorry! Your turn now! Give me a quote from either Jeremy Corbyn or Hitler which clearly proves their hatred of the Jews and let me see if I can figure out who said it. Go! (*Remember to translate it from German if it’s a Hitler quote so that it’s not obvious.)

Well I am also glad about the more conciliatory tone. It is such an important and incendiary issue that I admit to having become very wound up very quickly, which was ungentlemanly and very silly really. In the spirit of coming together and finding common ground, I propose we play a fun little game: who said the quote, Jeremy Corbyn or Adolf Hitler? We give each other a quote which proves beyond doubt the speaker’s genuine hatred of Jews, and we each have to guess who said it, Corbyn or Hitler! I’ll start things off. Round one, here we go (no googling now!!!): “The Jew has always been a people with definite racial characteristics and never a religion.” Was that - a) Jeremy Corbyn, giant marrow grower and lifelong anti-racism campaigner, or b) Adolf Hitler, genocidal megalomaniac and monobollocked actual hater of Jews? Take your time now!

Come on now, Strontium. I would like to sincerely apologise for calling you a Tory voting cunt; you’re probably not in real life, but you have been acting a bit like one, so I am sorry for that. But out of order perhaps. I do however have to say that your refusal to answer my very simple question is making you look a bit silly, almost as though you know that by answering it, you’ll have admitted that you’ve been wrong about all of this. So let’s give it another try: when has Corbyn ever said or done anything which can be classed as anti Jewish and NOT anti-Zionist? I’m genuinely interested to know.

You still haven’t answered the question, Stronts: when has Corbyn ever said or done anything which can be classed as anti Jewish and NOT anti-Zionist?

You haven’t answered the question, Stronts: when has Corbyn ever said or done anything which can be classed as anti Jewish and NOT anti-Zionist? It’s an important question.

My frequency of posts is no reason for me not to come out swinging with shit like this when I see such absolute bollocks being spouted. I’ve always been a firm believer that all it takes for evil to succeeded in this world is for witless smears of shit like me to say nothing, particularly when they see artless sacs of cunt flappery like Stronts harping on like a Daily Mail journalist with a semi-on. So, Strontium Dog: you successfully admitted that being an anti-Zionist does “not necessarily” make someone an anti-Semite. Now that we’ve agreed on something, tell me: when has Corbyn said anything which can be classed as anti Jewish and NOT anti-Zionist? Unless you can do that, you will have the tricky situation on your hands of having been shown to be spouting absolute bollocks for the past fifty pages without a shred of evidence. And, in my book, it’s a fair bit better to have said very little over a long period of time than having made the frequent tit of myself in public which you have over the past couple of weeks. So go on then: when has Corbyn said or done anything specifically anti-Semitic?

“Not necessarily.” So you’re prepared to believe that Corbyn, a life long and proven anti racist, is “necessarily” a hater of Jews along the lines of Hitler, as opposed to someone who quite sensibly questions the murderous expansionism of Israel? Answer THAT question, you disingenuous, Tory voting cunt.

Answer my question.