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Klopp doing his best to retain his reputation as a bottler
Posted by aje on April 14, 2024, 4:30 pm, in reply to "At this rate, it'll be Weißwurst and a Luke warm Brezel in Klopp's living room. nt."
I believe that when he arrived at Liverpool he was famous for losing finals
Yes he had two Bundasliga's with Dortmund, but he lost the Champions League final that he took them to.
At Liverpool he's won a champions league (against Tottenham !) and lost one.
He's won 1 league title across his 9 seasons there. And that was the pandemic freak show. In his first season he got to two cup finals and lost them both.
2022 they pick up domestic cup double, but is that really a good return given the quality they've had over such a long period of time?
If they win the league this season it means Klopp goes ahead of legendary PL managers such as Pellegrini, Mancini and Raniera. If they don't, he's at their level, albeit with a couple of cup wins. About par with Ancelotti (in England only).
But he's a bottler.
For all the "Everton that" narrative don't forget:
- Liverpool 1989 only need to lose by 1 goal, they lose 2-0
- 2014 they are 3-0 up against Palace and go for goal difference, end up drawing
Yes they've had comebacks of their own, and trophies. I thought to myself losing finals is part and parcel of winning them, and I'd much rather get to many and win a few than the alternative. But his legacy is underwhelming when judged on winning things
Liverpool bottle it
When it matters, we win
3-2 vs Wimbledon
3-2 vs Palace
1-0 vs Bournemouth
We're shit but we don't got down. That's Everton.
"Everton that" means surviving.
"Liverpool that" means everyone blowing smoke up your arse but you don't actually win much