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What a bunch of bastards these fishermen/tourism officials ate in the Seychelles. Catching all the sharks they can and stringing them up just try and prove they caught the one that bit the arm off that fella on honeymoon last week. It's pathetic and wrong and the British press don't help by trying to sensationalise it all with headlines like jaws killer, monster etc. Why exactly is a fish a monster just because it bit something that was splashing around in the ocean? It's interesting to see that so called experts have do far blamed bull sharks, great whites and now tiger sharks for the attacks. What sort of experts are these? The teeth of a great White are vastly different to those of a bull or tiger shark. The bite marks would reveal these on the swimmers body!!

 

It's a tragedy that this guy died but it's about time people started to realise that if you go to foreign far off places and swim in the sea then you are taking a risk. People need to accept that risk or they shouldn't go in the water. It didn't help him that he was swimming at dusk. Dawn and dusk are the times when sharks are at their most active, most shark attacks on humans occur in these time ranges.

 

The sea is full of things big and tiny that can be fatal to swimmers. Unfortunate incidents will happen now and then. It shouldn't be an excuse for humans to start killing everything in the sea just to try and protect the tourist industry.

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It's because the human race has become a shower of bastards. I said this last week that the shark was only doing what comes naturally to it and is suddenly a blood thirsty human hunter. Absolute dog shit.

 

The same kind of thing is happening across India, China and places of the like were humans have started to swallow up land at an alarming rate and are venturing into Tiger territory. Humans + Tigers = Messy outcome for human and then Tigers are hunted as some form of insane retribution when humans are encroaching on Tigers habitation.

 

A lot of these creatures inhabited the earth way before we did and its about time the world started paying more respect to them otherwise we could lose a lot wonderful animals and creatures.

 

On a side note. Isn't it a bit odd how we as a species spent hundreds of thousands, maybe millions years evolving to live on dry land after emerging from seas and the first thing we do at the beach or where ever is run straight back in when its clear that we aren't welcome in there.

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What a bunch of bastards these fishermen/tourism officials ate in the Seychelles. Catching all the sharks they can and stringing them up just try and prove they caught the one that bit the arm off that fella on honeymoon last week. It's pathetic and wrong and the British press don't help by trying to sensationalise it all with headlines like jaws killer, monster etc. Why exactly is a fish a monster just because it bit something that was splashing around in the ocean? It's interesting to see that so called experts have do far blamed bull sharks, great whites and now tiger sharks for the attacks. What sort of experts are these? The teeth of a great White are vastly different to those of a bull or tiger shark. The bite marks would reveal these on the swimmers body!!

 

It's a tragedy that this guy died but it's about time people started to realise that if you go to foreign far off places and swim in the sea then you are taking a risk. People need to accept that risk or they shouldn't go in the water. It didn't help him that he was swimming at dusk. Dawn and dusk are the times when sharks are at their most active, most shark attacks on humans occur in these time ranges.

 

The sea is full of things big and tiny that can be fatal to swimmers. Unfortunate incidents will happen now and then. It shouldn't be an excuse for humans to start killing everything in the sea just to try and protect the tourist industry.

 

Yup, cunts.

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My mate's mother in law lives in the Seychelles and blames rich Arabic tourists. Apparently they want to see sharks but refuse to go far out to sea to see them so tour companies were chumming close to shore. If you bring them in to where people will be then what is going to happen?

 

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"Mr. Vaughn, what we are dealing with here is a perfect engine, an eating machine. It's really a miracle of evolution. All this machine does is swim and eat and make little sharks, and that's all. Now, why don't you take a long, close look at this sign.Those proportions are correct."

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The dolphins are slipping in the duty these days,need to get back to protecting us and not planning a invasion of springfield.

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Dolphins are pretty rapey.

Still, I'd rather be fucked by a dolphin than bitten by a shark.

Assuming they were the only choices, that is.

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What a bunch of bastards these fishermen/tourism officials ate in the Seychelles. Catching all the sharks they can and stringing them up just try and prove they caught the one that bit the arm off that fella on honeymoon last week. It's pathetic and wrong and the British press don't help by trying to sensationalise it all with headlines like jaws killer, monster etc. Why exactly is a fish a monster just because it bit something that was splashing around in the ocean? It's interesting to see that so called experts have do far blamed bull sharks, great whites and now tiger sharks for the attacks. What sort of experts are these? The teeth of a great White are vastly different to those of a bull or tiger shark. The bite marks would reveal these on the swimmers body!!

 

It's a tragedy that this guy died but it's about time people started to realise that if you go to foreign far off places and swim in the sea then you are taking a risk. People need to accept that risk or they shouldn't go in the water. It didn't help him that he was swimming at dusk. Dawn and dusk are the times when sharks are at their most active, most shark attacks on humans occur in these time ranges.

 

The sea is full of things big and tiny that can be fatal to swimmers. Unfortunate incidents will happen now and then. It shouldn't be an excuse for humans to start killing everything in the sea just to try and protect the tourist industry.

 

Yup. Captain Nemo had it right.

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Correct.

 

I'm all for killing things which will try and eat me, I consider it a good use of my tax dollars. The last wolf in Britain was killed in Scotland in 1680, and rightly so.

 

My translucent-furred diplomats in Norway will deal with you in due course.

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Correct.

 

I'm all for killing things which will try and eat me, I consider it a good use of my tax dollars. The last wolf in Britain was killed in Scotland in 1680, and rightly so.

 

Wolf Attacks on People

 

Written by Nelson King

 

Like almost everything about wolf behavior, wolf attacks on humans are a matter of controversy. Movies and television routinely show people attacked by wolves, which leaves the impression that wolves are extremely dangerous. Then there is Kevin Costner doing the twist with ‘Two Socks’ in the movie Dances with Wolves. Many studies on wolf attacks have been done over the years; there is not much agreement. However, there is consensus that world-wide there have been many credible attacks on humans by wolves, and some cases have resulted in death. The issue is not ‘Does this occur?’ but ‘How significant is it, specifically, in Yellowstone?’

 

Wolves are predators, of course; being carnivores they hunt and kill for meat. In Yellowstone, similar predators are bears, mountain lions, and coyotes. From the human perspective, all larger predators are potentially dangerous. Common sense suggests that if you see a bear, a mountain lion, or a wolf pack – you do your best to avoid them.

 

Fortunately, human attacks by wolves are extremely rare. How rare? This question gets into the messy business of defining what constitutes ‘a wolf attack’ and the credibility of each event. A reasonable source for information is the world-wide study of wolf attacks on humans done by the Norwegian Institute for Nature Research (NINA) in 2002. The finding of the report was that during the 100 years of the 20th century there were between twenty and thirty attacks in North America (including Alaska and Canada, which have relatively high populations of wolves). Of these, three were fatal, all because of rabies. No attacks have been recorded in Yellowstone since the reintroduction of wolves more than a decade ago. For comparison, during the 20th century there have been 71 fatal grizzly (brown) bear attacks in North America. Each year in the United States, 16-18 people die from dog attacks.

 

In terms of statistics, it is much safer to hike the trails of Yellowstone than to drive the roads. Experienced outdoors people will tell you that in Yellowstone, it’s the bears that are worrisome. Because of their omnivorous eating habits, they are much more likely to be where humans go. Wolves, on the other hand, avoid humans and are notoriously difficult even to see in the wild. Not that it’s impossible to be in the wrong place at the wrong time with a pack of wolves; but it hasn’t happened yet and it isn’t likely.

 

This puts things into perspective.

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There has been talk for a good few years now about reintroducing Wolves to the Scottish Highlands.

 

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Wild wolves 'good for ecosystems'

 

Reintroducing wild wolves to the Scottish Highlands would help the local ecosystem, a study suggests.

 

Wolves, which were hunted to extinction in Scotland in the late 1700s, would help control the numbers of red deer, the team from the UK and Norway said.

 

This would aid the re-establishment of plants and birds - currently hampered by the deer population, they write in Proceedings of the Royal Society B.

 

But farmers say more livestock would be killed if wolves are reintroduced.

 

The researchers' findings used a predator/prey model to assess the probable consequences on the Highland's red deer population.

 

"There has been an ongoing debate about the possibility of reintroducing wolves to Scotland for some time," said co-author Tim Coulson, from Imperial College London.

 

"So we thought that we would start the ball rolling by looking to see, using mathematical modelling approaches, what the possible impact of reintroducing wolves into Scotland would have on the red deer population."

 

The researchers found that the red deer population was close to reaching the maximum capacity that the ecosystem could support, and that costly culls were not proving to be economically effective.

 

Since Scotland's wild wolf population died out, the UK's largest wild land animal has not had any natural predators to help control its numbers.

 

"For example, many sheep farmers argue for fewer deer because they are concerned the deer compete with sheep for grazing," Dr Coulson told BBC News.

 

"Many of the conservation organisations, especially those trying to reforest areas, also believe their numbers should be reduced.

 

"Attempts to get forests to come back are going to be hindered by the fact that there are too many deer, which will munch away merrily on any young trees."

 

Other groups, Dr Coulson added, were concerned that excessive deer numbers were having an impact on bird species, such as the capercaillie.

 

The study found that the wolves would prey on the deer and would help rebalance the ecology, giving other tree and bird species a chance to establish themselves.

 

Livestock worries

 

But farming groups voiced concern and said that the introduction of wolves would hit their members.

 

Anna Davies, a spokeswoman for the National Farmers' Union in Scotland, said: "The reintroduction of wolves into the wild would present significant problems in terms of sheep predation, and that is the reason why it is not widely popular among farmers."

 

Dr Coulson agreed that farmers would be affected but he added: "Typically, wolves do not go through and take out an entire flock; they will take individuals when they are hungry."

 

The study also assessed people's attitudes towards the idea of releasing wolves into the wild. While the public were generally positive, people living in rural areas were more sensitive.

 

"Although the farmers were slightly negative, they were not completely adverse to the idea provided they were adequately reimbursed for any lost stock," he said.

 

But Miss Davies disagreed: "Any implication that farmers are simply concerned with support payments and not with the welfare and predation of their animals is unjustified.

 

"Farmers suffer emotional as well as financial losses when they lose stock, as was demonstrated during the foot-and-mouth outbreak."

 

Dr Coulson said he believed that any reintroduction plan was still a long way from becoming a reality.

 

"Our research is just one of the first steps towards understanding the consequences of a wolf reintroduction in Scotland," he added.

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