Neighbours, everybody needs good neighbours...

[Kopite]

This is a long one but a goodie (said the actress to the bishop).

 

Anyway, about 8 months ago me and Mrs W decided that we'd move back into my house but we needed to get an extra room built at the back as a dining room. So we agreed a price with a builder to get a conservatory built.

 

I'd been sort of living out of Mrs W's house for about 6 months, in the meantime new neighbours moved into the rented house next door. I came home one day and found a cable running under once fence through my garden and under the other side of my garden. My neighbour had been into my garden and ran an electricity cable (an internal extension lead at that) through my backgarden. He then approached me and said "hope you don't mind but I've put an electricity cable through your backgarden!"

 

As I wasn't really living there I wasn't that bothered, however when the builders came to assess the work they asked what the cable was, gave me a luck of total bewilderment when I told the manager and said that it will have to go as it was directly under where the conservatory was going to be built. I approached my neighbour and asked him to move it (I really didn't want it in my garden as my partner has got children from a previous relationship and they would be playing in the garden). Rather than say "yeah no problem" it was "what if I pin it to the masonry at the back of your house?" I really didn't want him to do it and tried to make another excuse, thinking that was that.

 

Mrs W had to take her mother to the hospital one day, she noticed my neighbour (and his father-in-law) acting suspiciously in the street. She had left the blinds open as she had been cleaning the interior of the windows throughout the house. When she came back (some 90 minutes later) she noticed that there were the ends of cable ties all over the back patio as well as an empty box. Upon examining the rear of our house she found that the electricity cable had been moved. It was now pinned to the cables running along the back of my house (Sky have "piggybacked" their dish on to mine, this was done about 3/4 years and two neighbours previously - more of this later). He had waited for my partner to go out before going into my backgarden with his father-in-law and fixing the electricity cable to the Sky cables, not only that but because my partner had left the blinds open you could see right into the back bedroom where my computer was (as well as a flat screen TV). Even better, he had lifted up the roof tiles on my garage so he could run the cable under and they were out of place!

 

Neither of us couldn't believe it!

 

Anyway, on the first day the builders were here they were unloading the bricks and tools etc. on my drive. He came out and told the foreman where his drive was (the materials where nowhere near his drive) and that they weren't to encroach upon it (it is actually his landlord's drive as he is renting). Now had the situation been reversed we'd have said to the builders if you want us to move the cars to help you then please ask/use our drive etc..

 

He & his mates think nothing of parking outside our house (public highway I know) or even obstructing our drive! Furthermore neither Mrs W, our friends & family will park outside the neighbours. On the Friday of the first week the building work was going on, the manager turned up to give us an update, he parked outside next-doors house. Within 20 seconds of inviting him in next-door was banging on my door asking him to move his van from outside his house!

 

After he had finished, I told him that the electricity cable would have to come down as it was in a position just above the top of the new conservatory roof. I made it clear that because of the wet concrete, bricks & mortar that my father-in-law and myself would unclip it. He was not to come into my garden. He then complained about my satellite dish and I made it clear he was not to come into my backgarden because of the building work.

 

Mrs. W again spotted him and a friend of his acting suspiciously outside our house "he's checking to see whether we are still here". I thought she was being a bit paranoid, however it was teatime so we drove took the kids to McDonalds for tea. We had to come back to mine for 7-30pm as I had sold a bed on eBay and the lad was coming round to pick it up. When we got back to mine my partner went round the back of the house to put some rubbish in the bins. She called me round and posed the question "where's the satellite dish?" My Sky dish had gone and the security lighting sensor some 6 ft underneath it and on another wall had been snapped in two!!!

 

We rang the police and reported the theft. The good old Police said they would come round to take a statement on the following Tuesday!

 

We went back to Mrs. W's that evening.

 

The next day we came back to mine to do some work on my house only to find my next-door neighbour, his father-in-law and mate putting up a Sky dish on the front of their house!

 

I lost it! "What are you doing with my f*cking satellite dish?" Only for his mother-in-law (who looks like she's been rejected from the cast of "Shameless"), to say to me "don't you swear in front of my grandchildren". Now bearing in mind my neighbours swear in front of their children all the time and make no attempt to keep it quiet, I had to laugh. I rang the Police who didn't want to come, so Alison got on the phone and said they'd better come as I was going to take the dish back (we had no Sky for the kids to watch).

 

The police were here in 10 minutes. Talk about useless, they made both Alison & I feel like at worst criminals, at best extremely petty. I said that is my dish, he has trespassed and I want my dish back.

 

The police said that if it was my dish they would have to arrest him. I was that livid (after warning him not to come in to my backgarden) I said you'd better arrest him as I would end up being arrested for sorting him out myself.

 

He claimed the dish was his (even though it was on my house), produced a Sky bill and the police believed him (they left).

 

They continued to fit the dish whilst we were there, so we had to leave otherwise I would have done something I would regret.

 

I immediately got onto Sky, who not only confirmed the dish was mine (and indeed had been since I moved in to my house in September 2003) but that there was no active account at my neighbours.

 

I received written confirmation from Sky as to the ownership the next-day via email so I called the police to tell them I had definitive proof the dish was mine. We arrived back at mine however the police were late. In the meantime Alison was in the back bedroom tidying up when she spotted my neighbour with a load of rubbish in his hand putting it over the fence. She coughed, and he withdrew his hand.

 

The police (the same officer) turned up an hour later than they were supposed to arrive. I presented the email from Sky to them thinking here was proof to be met with...

 

"well it's not really proof as Sky's records are in all likelihood wrong!"

 

Red rag to a bull time, "excuse me, you have got written proof and you are dismissing it. If you don't do something I will"

 

"Then I will arrest you for threatening behaviour."

 

(Alison could see the look in his face as I'm a big lad and a lot bigger than the policeman, it basically said "if he loses it I'm going to struggle with him.")

 

He made an excuse, said wait 20 minutes and he will go next-door to sort it out. He would be back to tell us what went on.

 

An hour later the policeman walked out of next-door, got into his car and drove off!!!

 

We eventually got hold of the officer and he told us that his next-door's wife got really upset (she was 8 months pregnant) and he didn't want to stress her anymore (Alison was 4 months pregnant at the time). I think he didn't want to do anything but knew we had the neighbour bang to rights, he came around looking really upset and apologised. I explained that I had asked him not to come into my garden as there was building going on, yet he ignored my request.

 

Since then we've had all sorts of fun. Our drive blocked off, extremely loud music being played. Engines being revved, our garage stinking of petrol fumes as a result of this.

 

I've been off on Paternity Leave for most of last week. Bearing in mind they have a 4 month-old (and we have a one week old) the music was blasting on a couple of days. We're trying to watch TV with Alison's 4-year old and can't hear the TV because of the volume of music from next door. Alison said that the music was quiet compared to what she normally has to endure! My in-laws have been round (they are both retired) when next-door have had the music blasting to confirm this.

 

If last week was quiet then My good God!

 

Anyway rant over, I feel better. Thank you!

[melons]

Blimey. I thought people around here had some front.

 

Their landlord not said anything?

[Kopite]

Blimey. I thought people around here had some front.

 

Their landlord not said anything?

 

Don't think he knows. He will when he sees the front windows as he's drilled a hole through the suffix on the double-glazed windows to put the cable through (compromising their integrity).

[Antynwa]

Was the house marketed by a letting agency?

 

Get in touch with them, explain the situation to them. If you're lucky and they are in arrears they might be looking for any excuse to fuck them off.

[odris]

You should recruit some TLW'ers and we can all go round there and cause mayhem.

[longballs]

Why did he run an extension lead through your garden? Was he piggybacking your electric?

[L19red]

what do you expect in Wales? Move back to civilisation and you wont have these problems.

[Rafa_The_Gaffa]

I feel your pain m8. I've been in the same house for 25 years and for the past 17 of those have been hell thanks to a dickhead of a neighbour who lives upstairs above us. Constantly hammering, sawing, loud music/constant drinking, kids running mental playing football INDOORS ! fucking lowlife scum - wthey've calmed down a bit but the youngest is 12 and he still jumps about like a headcase. Total oxygen thieves of the lowest order.

[Karl_b]

The morale of this story is that a lot of people are really fucking shit. Getting in touch with the letting agents is no good (if it's private) as they're not really there to sort of disputes with neighbours, they're responsible for the property and not the occupants behaviour. Unless as Ant says, they're looking to get rid anyway.

[Carvalho Diablo]

Charles Bronson / Death Wish style, 1 by 1, knock fuck out of them.

[Indian Red]

Post his email/IP address on here. Then sit back and enjoy

[melons]

what do you expect in Wales? Move back to civilisation and you wont have these problems.

 

 

Haha, err yeah.. negged. x

[dennis tooth]

Ah makes me feel how I felt when the police refused to help me get all the property I owned back from the person who had stolen them and admitting it to the police. I am still trying near on 3 years later to get my property back. It'll be easier to move, put it that way. Unless you are going to stick the dish up his arse, which is similar to what I should have tried when I had the best chance.

Another great thread about two men fighting over laying cables minus the bog roll.

[Juniper]

I'd proper kick off if this happened to us...which would probably not be a good thing. Sounds like you've kept your cool Kopite, don't know how though so fair play to you. The satelite episode would have sent me over the edge personally.

 

After 3 years of having an empty house next door to us on one side, the owner is preping it for either a sale, or to rent out. I'm hoping to fuck no cocks move in next door within the next few months. It's almost too peaceful and friendly down our close.

[Captain]

I'd be fucking disgusted if I had police show that kind of incompetence. Shit neigbours exist but you expect a minimum of the police force.

[loadsoftrophies]

Best advice i can offer is have a shit in their letterbox.

[Rico1304]

Go to the police station, put your point across clearly and rationally. That way you'll speak to the organ grinders, not the monkeys. therefore you will win.

[Guest ShoePiss]

what the fuck is the power cable all about? That's proof that they did indeed trespass firstly and possibly that they're illegally getting power from somewhere.

[OmarVizquel]

Am going through a similarly enraging tiff with the complete and utter scallies who just moved in upstairs. Slamming doors like it's a competition; loud, violent-sounding sex for hours on end EVERY night; and the worst part -- I have heard a puppy crying for the past 3 months (at least). But the thing is, I have NEVER seen the scum take the poor dog outside (I work at home at a desk near the front window, and so would definitely have noticed if they took it out). I'm considering calling the RSPCA or Dog's Trust to report animal cruelty, but from what I've read online it seems that they can't really do much in this sort of situation unless I have some evidence of violence. You'd think keeping a dog inside a small flat for its entire life would qualify as cruelty, but I guess not. Any advice?

[dennis tooth]

Is it just the one dog or more than that, are they allowed to keep the dog? How old is it then?

[OmarVizquel]

Is it just the one dog or more than that, are they allowed to keep the dog? How old is it then?

 

Sounds like just one dog. I haven't seen it -- again, they have never taken it outside of the flat, but there's no doubt it's a dog. Barks and cries every day.

[hamstrung]

Could be an emotional seal.

[bigbak]

what the fuck is the power cable all about? That's proof that they did indeed trespass firstly and possibly that they're illegally getting power from somewhere.

 

That would have been the first thing I told the copper. A nice little jail term for that one.

[Antynwa]

Am going through a similarly enraging tiff with the complete and utter scallies who just moved in upstairs. Slamming doors like it's a competition; loud, violent-sounding sex for hours on end EVERY night; and the worst part -- I have heard a puppy crying for the past 3 months (at least). But the thing is, I have NEVER seen the scum take the poor dog outside (I work at home at a desk near the front window, and so would definitely have noticed if they took it out). I'm considering calling the RSPCA or Dog's Trust to report animal cruelty, but from what I've read online it seems that they can't really do much in this sort of situation unless I have some evidence of violence. You'd think keeping a dog inside a small flat for its entire life would qualify as cruelty, but I guess not. Any advice?

 

CALL THE RSPC FUCKING AYE

[Charles Penrose]

Col, if I were you mate I would make a proper complaint. Visit the Station and sit there until a Sergeant comes down and speaks to you. They'll have to take it seriously and if you're able to prove things as you say you are then i'd expect some action on the dish pretty sharpish.