The smoking ban.

[The Chief]

After the smoking ban was first mooted, and all kinds started to be up in arms about people smoking, i told anyone who would listen that it's all well and good getting the ban going, but, what would be next? I said it would be booze, the next thing the do gooder brigade would want stopping would be people drinking at the weekends. All of a sudden all these figures are coming out about binge drinking and "ooooh it's terrible all these people drinking so much at the weekend, it's a real drain on the NHS". It was even mentioned in the Daily Post recently that they were thinking of a smoking ban style attack on binge drinking, what do they mean? we can only drink outside the pubs?

What really pisses me off about this "drain on the NHS", is that the real drain on the NHS and the Police and Social Service don't even get mentioned, Smackheads, they are the real drain on everything, and yet what happens about stopping them? Fuck all, absolutely nothing.

BTW i no longer smoke, haven't for about 10 years, but i have been drinking booze as much as possible all my life, and all of a sudden i'm a 'binge drinker'. Go figure eh.

[Red '84]

After the smoking ban was first mooted, and all kinds started to be up in arms about people smoking, i told anyone who would listen that it's all well and good getting the ban going, but, what would be next? I said it would be booze, the next thing the do gooder brigade would want stopping would be people drinking at the weekends. All of a sudden all these figures are coming out about binge drinking and "ooooh it's terrible all these people drinking so much at the weekend, it's a real drain on the NHS". It was even mentioned in the Daily Post recently that they were thinking of a smoking ban style attack on binge drinking, what do they mean? we can only drink outside the pubs?

What really pisses me off about this "drain on the NHS", is that the real drain on the NHS and the Police and Social Service don't even get mentioned, Smackheads, they are the real drain on everything, and yet what happens about stopping them? Fuck all, absolutely nothing.

BTW i no longer smoke, haven't for about 10 years, but i have been drinking booze as much as possible all my life, and all of a sudden i'm a 'binge drinker'. Go figure eh.

 

much ado about nothing mate, think they have something along those lines here in ireland where its been in vogue to shite on about binge drinking and what not, not so much a bingedrinking ban but think they have some rule whereby barstaff shouldnt serve you if your pissed but it'll basically never happen, as at the end of the day, bingedrinking is far too much of a moneyspinner for it to be impinged on.

[Strontium]

Don't blame me; I didn't vote Labour. What else do you honestly expect from social democrats? People of this political persuasion have always wanted to try and force people to conform to some ideal. Surely people know that when you elect a wolf in wolf's clothing you get a wolf? How can so many people be up in arms when the wolf tries to eat them?

 

PS not aiming this at you explicitly The Chief, just bemoaning the fact that people in general don't seem to engage their brain before they choose a political affiliation

[The Chief]

Don't blame me; I didn't vote Labour. What else do you honestly expect from social democrats? People of this political persuasion have always wanted to try and force people to conform to some ideal. Surely people know that when you elect a wolf in wolf's clothing you get a wolf? How can so many people be up in arms when the wolf tries to eat them?

 

PS not aiming this at you explicitly The Chief, just bemoaning the fact that people in general don't seem to engage their brain before they choose a political affiliation

 

No offence taken SD, i know it wasn't aimed at me specifically. What i was really saying is basically the same as you but without the politics, a lot of people will let themselves get trampled over no matter what and say "oh THAT'LL never happen" and when it happens then they moan about how nobody told them.

Red'84, that's the point of my post though, didn't you have the smoking ban before us? Watch some twat try and get a limit imposed on how much can be drank by people.

One last thing, SD, didn't your own party try the old Social Democrat thingymajig?

[Strontium]

One last thing, SD, didn't your own party try the old Social Democrat thingymajig?

 

Yes, that's half the problem with our lot ;)

[Spy Bee]

I noticed that they tried to minorities drinkers by saying that "75% of the population drink within the BMA's guidelines". I suspect that figure includes the very old, the very young and animals.

[Anny Road]

They can fuck off. What I put in my body is my business. Ill go to the baracades if they fuck with me dram.

[Mr Moustache]

The best thing about the smoking ban is that it makes it a lot easier to try to get into the barmaids knickers.

[Rush 346]

Worst thing about about the smoking ban is that parents now take their kids to the pub more! has anyone else noitced this? don't get me wrong i don't mind the odd kid running round but you have specific places to take kids that i would never think about drinking in, charlie chalks etc etc

[Anny Road]

Living in Scotland and having the ban for over a year I can safely say that it has killed the bars. People drink cheap supermarket booze at home.

Knowing several publicans who live above thier premises they say the biggest pain in the arse has been trying to live with the smell of BO and Piss. Never noticed it previously.

[Mr Moustache]

I have. Ror example The Metro in town now smells like a cross between Sayers pasties and the bogs in The State circa '92.

[Strontium]

They can fuck off. What I put in my body is my business. Ill go to the baracades if they fuck with me dram.

 

Unfortunately, thanks to the drug laws in this country, no it isn't. This crackdown on first tobacco and now alcohol is merely an extension of this line of thinking that says "We know what is best for you and we are going to stop you doing anything we think is bad".

[The Chief]

Unfortunately, thanks to the drug laws in this country, no it isn't. This crackdown on first tobacco and now alcohol is merely an extension of this line of thinking that says "We know what is best for you and we are going to stop you doing anything we think is bad".

 

Exactly my point SD, i mean what the fuck is this "eat 5 fruits a day" shit, (gays love that slogan i reckon), While i do like the odd Apple, Banana, or other fruit, i've never eaten them in large quantities and i'm healthy enough.

I've never really drank every day, i have sometimes obviously, but i do go out nearly every weekend and have been for more than 30 years, suddenly, i'm a binge drinker who can't hold my ale!!! Think i'll become a smackhead, nobody moans about that lot.

[robbief]

smackheads are the real drain i would say. they get all sorts of treatment and stuff to keep them alive and as a result most smackheads live longer than most 'normal heads'.

[Karl_b]

There's some real deep thinking going on in this thread.

[Owen]

There's some real deep thinking going on in this thread.

 

I'm feeling a little out of my depth, to be honest.

[Elmyn Noos]

Don't get me started on the fucking smoking ban. Diabolical fucking infringement on a man's god given right to have a smoke in the pub brought about by a bunch of fucking whining moisturising metrosexual gym-members.

 

plus, I hate having to agree with SD on anything.

[Strontium]

plus, I hate having to agree with SD on anything.

 

:D

[Elmyn Noos]

:D

 

Would the LibDems repeal the ban on smoking in pubs though SD?

[Strontium]

Would the LibDems repeal the ban on smoking in pubs though SD?

 

That's a difficult one to answer. My initial feeling is that, no, we wouldn't, but a lot of our members had serious doubts about a blanket ban, not least putative leader Nick Clegg. I would like to think that a Clegg-led Lib Dems would push for some exceptions to the ban, although campaigning for an outright repeal is extremely unlikely. I mean, as much as I would like to be able to give people the right to smoke themselves to death in pubs, in my mind I have to balance that with the right of the pub workforce to have minimal health hazards on the job.

[Remmie]

The smoking ban is far too popular at the moment, I think the Libs would be silly to push for any changes. Smokers just need to man up and get the fuck over it.

[Tom R]

I have to balance that with the right of the pub workforce to have minimal health hazards on the job.

 

They should get a fucking jkob somewhere else then. Simple.

 

 

"Hmm, I don't like smokey atmospheres. Where should I work? I know! I'll get a job down at the smokey local"

 

Morons.

 

 

I don't like blood. So I'm not a nurse.

 

I don't like being killed for a living, so I'm not a soldier.

 

etc.

 

 

Morons.

[Elmyn Noos]

That's a difficult one to answer. My initial feeling is that, no, we wouldn't, but a lot of our members had serious doubts about a blanket ban, not least putative leader Nick Clegg. I would like to think that a Clegg-led Lib Dems would push for some exceptions to the ban, although campaigning for an outright repeal is extremely unlikely. I mean, as much as I would like to be able to give people the right to smoke themselves to death in pubs, in my mind I have to balance that with the right of the pub workforce to have minimal health hazards on the job.

 

Fuck the barstaff mate - it'll not be long before they're all polish anyway, and all eastern europeans smoke like chimneys anyway.

 

If the LibDems came out and said they were going to put this decision back where it belongs in the hands of the people that own and run the bars (and ultimately, therefore, in the hands of the customers), I might even consider not voting for labour.

[Elmyn Noos]

They should get a fucking jkob somewhere else then. Simple.

 

 

"Hmm, I don't like smokey atmospheres. Where should I work? I know! I'll get a job down at the smokey local"

 

Morons.

 

 

I don't like blood. So I'm not a nurse.

 

I don't like being killed for a living, so I'm not a soldier.

 

etc.

 

 

Morons.

 

Spot fucking on.

[Guest PaddyBerger15]

They should get a fucking jkob somewhere else then. Simple.

 

 

"Hmm, I don't like smokey atmospheres. Where should I work? I know! I'll get a job down at the smokey local"

 

Morons.

 

 

I don't like blood. So I'm not a nurse.

 

I don't like being killed for a living, so I'm not a soldier.

 

etc.

 

 

Morons.

 

Bingo, and thats why Madstock didn't apply for the job of womens shower attendant.