Liverpool Invited To New FIFA Club World Cup

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

They will buy the CL soon enough. FM Pep.

[Aventus]

Ha, how ridiculous . They don't win every game or every trophy. Was it soulless for us when we dominated all? I hope you told him to grow up.

He's pushing 60 so it wouldn't feel right telling him to grow up.

 

He's probably just reminiscing about his younger days of celebrating promotion etc, full of hope about what the future has in store.

Only for a load of Arabs to take over turn the club inside out and put trophies on a plate for them.

Plus I don't think he'll ever top the feeling of winning that first Premier league title on the last day of the season with Agueros goal, especially getting one over on Fergie and united.

 

I reckon the bloos try and imagine themselves doing it to us one day, fantasising about it the same way I fantasise about Emily Ratajkowski.

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

I reckon the bloos try and imagine themselves doing it to us one day, fantasising about it the same way I fantasise about Emily Ratajkowski.

Only they've less chance of their fantasy being realised.

[A_S]

He's pushing 60 so it wouldn't feel right telling him to grow up.

 

He's probably just reminiscing about his younger days of celebrating promotion etc, full of hope about what the future has in store.

Only for a load of Arabs to take over turn the club inside out and put trophies on a plate for them.

Plus I don't think he'll ever top the feeling of winning that first Premier league title on the last day of the season with Agueros goal, especially getting one over on Fergie and united.

 

I reckon the bloos try and imagine themselves doing it to us one day, fantasising about it the same way I fantasise about Emily Ratajkowski.

 

This season they had the chance to destroy the mancs and win the title and they choked. Given the circumstances you've mentioned, it would have been as sweet as it's going to get for them for a while, you'd imagine. And they choked. 

[johnsusername]

Sounds exotic. I'm in. 

[Sugar Ape]

https://www.squawka.com/en/news/liverpool-spurs-club-world-cup

 

The winner of this season’s Champions League will not be able to succeed Real Madrid as FIFA Club World Cup champions.

 

Since 2005, the European champions and their continental counterparts – as well as a host team – have competed for the prize, with Real coming out on top the most times.

 

The Champions League winners usually automatically enter the tournament, which is played in the winter of the same year, meaning Liverpool would be assured of a place after beating Spurs 2-0 in Madrid.

 

But things are set to change after FIFA saw proposals for a tournament to be held every four years given the green light in March.

 

As a result, the tournament will not take place this year and the first championship with a new format featuring 24 clubs (from 6 confederations) will take place in 2021.

[VladimirIlyich]

1 minute ago, Sugar Ape said:

https://www.squawka.com/en/news/liverpool-spurs-club-world-cup

 

The winner of this season’s Champions League will not be able to succeed Real Madrid as FIFA Club World Cup champions.

 

Since 2005, the European champions and their continental counterparts – as well as a host team – have competed for the prize, with Real coming out on top the most times.

 

The Champions League winners usually automatically enter the tournament, which is played in the winter of the same year, meaning Liverpool would be assured of a place after beating Spurs 2-0 in Madrid.

 

But things are set to change after FIFA saw proposals for a tournament to be held every four years given the green light in March.

 

As a result, the tournament will not take place this year and the first championship with a new format featuring 24 clubs (from 6 confederations) will take place in 2021.

We should be given a place automatically now.

[Sugar Ape]

I’m a bit gutted over this. I know it’s a bit of a joke competition but it’s one of the few trophies we haven’t won the club World Cup/Intercontinental cup. 

 

Why did we decline to play in it twice in the 70s?

[Sugar Ape]

Hmmm. 

 

 

[aws]

If we go, will we get a ref who hasn't been paid off this time? 

[Moctezuma]

11 hours ago, aws said:

If we go, will we get a ref who hasn't been paid off this time? 

Yup, that was fucking disgraceful that last match. Either incompetence off the scale or a brown paper envelops job.

[Stickman]

Bent ref or not Rafa fucked up last time by starting Morientes instead of Crouch especially when he'd scored twice in the semi final

[INTORRESTING]

We won that game about 3 times over.  

[aws]

I've had my suspicions about various refs over the years but that is the only game I've seen which I'm 100% convinced was fixed.  

[derykw]

As far as I understand it the club refused to play due to the historically violent nature of the games at the time.

 

The South Americans treated it as the be all and end all while we seen it as mid season inconvenience.

 

Fifa made participation compulsory after that so we played Flamengo in 81.

 

(In reply to Sugar ape)

[Stickman]

37 minutes ago, derykw said:

As far as I understand it the club refused to play due to the historically violent nature of the games at the time.

 

The South Americans treated it as the be all and end all while we seen it as mid season inconvenience.

 

Fifa made participation compulsory after that so we played Flamengo in 81.

 

(In reply to Sugar ape)

To be fair we didn't turn up for that one...

 

There was a huge contrast between how the two sides approached the 1981 Toyota Cup. For Flamengo it was the biggest match in the Clubs history and their first attempt at become World Football Champions. The Brazilian Club was trying to shake off the stigma of only being able to win major Titles in the Maracana, with many of their previous successes coming at the home of Brazilian Football.

 

As was typical of most European sides, Liverpool approached the game with less enthusiasm than their South American counterparts. Liverpool had twice before turned down the opportunity of playing for the trophy in the 70's when the format was a two legged affair, so this would represent the English sides first tilt at winning the prize on offer.

Flamengo were not only playing for the Title of World Champions, but also to honour former Brazil and Flamengo coach Claudio Coutinho, who had died in a scuba diving accident at the age of 42, only days before the match.

Liverpool’s preparations were hardly ideal, they were unusually struggling in the English League, lying in mid-table, and had only arrived in Japan 2 days before the game and suffering from jet lag.
The English side were also fearful that the match would descend into a war, typical of the violent clashes in the same competition in previous years.

Perhaps playing on Liverpool's minds was the fact that Flamengo had been involved in some brutal matches on their way to winning the Copa Libertadores. In the Play Off in the Final played less than a month prior to the match in Tokyo, there had been 5 sendings off (2 for Flamengo) and earlier in the Tournament Flamengo won another Play Off after the match was abandoned as Brazilian opponents Atletico Mineiro had 5 men sent off.

Prior to the match Liverpool Manager Bob Paisley was keen to avoid such trouble, telling his side to avoid trouble at all costs. Liverpool defender Phil Thompson confirmed that they were nervous about getting into trouble which, led to Flamengo having too much space to show their ability, although this was a strange tactic seeing as the Liverpool side had plenty of players who were normally up for a battle, none more so than Midfielder Graeme Souness.
Liverpool needn’t have worried about any overly physical play from the Brazilians, Flamengo were too busy getting rings run round them to be concerned about kicking their opponents. The first real attack of danger saw the ball end up in the Liverpool net. Zico lofted a ball over the Liverpool defence which Phil Thompson misjudged and Nunes nipped in to put Flamengo ahead after just 12 minutes.

Surprisingly there was little in the way of  response from the European Champions as Flamengo continued to press forward, although the one Liverpool player that did stand out on the day, debutant Craig Johnston did threaten, but dragged his shot wide.
On 34 minutes Flamengo doubled their lead after Adilio capitalised on a goalkeeping error from a Zico free-kick. The Brazilian side had won a free-kick in a dangerous position after Souness had gone through the back of Tita, seemingly forgetting the words of his Manager prior to the game regarding trouble.

The Liverpool Keeper Grobbelaar made a mess of the free-kick spilling the ball in the 6 yard, and although he almost made up for his error by saving the rebound, Adilio was following up to bundle the ball into the net. Even with a 2 goal lead, there was no evidence of Flamengo resting on their laurels as they continued to attack, with Zico involved in most of the good work.

Some sloppy play almost let Liverpool in, with McDermott forcing Flamengo Keeper Raul into a save, which gave Liverpool some hope that all was not lost yet.
Just before half time Flamengo effectively settled the game, this time they did not need a helping hand from the Liverpool defence, and once again the creator was Zico. The Brazilian master played in Nunes who produced a clinical finish into the far corner.

Having been embarrassed by conceding 3 first half goals, in contrast to his earlier instructions Paisley demanded more commitment from his side, and although Liverpool did improve in the 2nd half, the damage had already been done.
Liverpool’s experienced players just didn’t turn up. On a barren bobbly pitch that was in direct contrast to the talent gracing it Flamengo had outclassed their European opponents, finding a flat patch of grass on the pitch was as difficult as finding a Liverpool player who did himself justice (Johnston excluded).

Bob Paisley would later praise the Brazilians, saying Flamengo needed only 1 touch where Liverpool took 3 touches, other post match views focused on how poor Liverpool were, Ray Kennedy who appeared in the Liverpool midfield in Tokyo said it was “embarrassing”, while Flamengo Coach was touch more diplomatic saying that Liverpool were “Disappointing”.
There were some excuses trotted about from the English, pointing to the poor state of the pitch which gave their opponents an advantage, due to their superior technique, and the fact that the Liverpool side were exposed by their desire to avoid an overly physical match, but there was little doubt that they were beaten by the better side on the day.

 

http://theclubworldcup.blogspot.com/2014/07/1981-toyota-cup-liverpool-v-flamengo.html

[Harry Squatter]

 

[El Rojo]

Fuck that shit. 

[aws]

Send the u-23s. 

[karl1987]

Not gonna lie I really want us to win this.  We've never won it before and was gutted when we lost in 2005.

 

At most we only have to play 2 games as we go into the semi's automatically.  Semi will be against a completely dud which the subs and reserves could easily take care off.  Christ they could probably win us the final aswell based on all the previous runners up.

 

Theres a winter break this year aswell so the players will get a rest.  Provided we strengthen in the areas needed this Summer we we have quality backups in all positions then we'll have no problems.

 

 

[Pureblood]

3 hours ago, Stickman said:

Rafa fucked up

Down with this sort of thing.

[Harry Squatter]

We should take this seriously. As said above the semi final will be against someone probably of League 2 standard. I watched the Libertadores final in December and the two teams were poor. River Plate even lost the semi final and missed out on playing Real Madrid. At least it's in a warm country and there's a chance to train in decent weather. It's another trophy and winning it will be more worldwide exposure. We will be popular over there already and should get a decent wedge for winning it. Plus it's not in Japan or Brazil.

 

Oh and they should defo bring back the old trophy. The new one looks like some shit cricket trophy. 

[1892-LFCWasBorn]

2 hours ago, karl1987 said:

Not gonna lie I really want us to win this

 

[Harry Squatter]

On 02/06/2019 at 14:38, Sugar Ape said:

I’m a bit gutted over this. I know it’s a bit of a joke competition but it’s one of the few trophies we haven’t won the club World Cup/Intercontinental cup. 

 

Why did we decline to play in it twice in the 70s?

Read about this a while back, Liverpool never had any real calendar space to play the game in 1977. Which was a shame because it was against Boca Juniors and would have been a big deal. Moenchengladbach took Liverpool's place but the two legs didn't take place until 1978. The first leg took place in April and the return leg was played in August just after the new season started.  The travelling then would have been a lot longer as well as the government being dodgy despite holding the World Cup.

 

The fixture wasn't even played after we won the European Cup in 1978 and we would have met Boca Juniors again. Nottingham Forest refused to participate in the two years after it. Malmo took their place the first time.  

 

Celtic and Man Utd both had really bad experiences in Argentina the previous decade with the games having 3 red cards in each of them. Basically back then you had to almost kill someone to get sent off so the fouls must have been horrendous. Also when AC Milan played in it one of their players nearly got killed. 

 

I think we were were the first to play in the one off game in Japan against Flamengo as Toyota took over it and made it financially worth the club's competing as the fixture was dying on its arse. They even made the players wear names on their shirts. 

[Lee909]

Going to be a pain in the arse this. 

In some ways I'd like to see us give a few players a rest for a week 10 days and use the squad.