Liverpool Invited To New FIFA Club World Cup

[Guest]

I thought it was a shite idea but then found out we were included and we'd get a minimum of 50m so now I think it's great.

 

I think Everton should be allowed to enter especially if Corinthians from Brazil are in it. And the fact that grey would have won at least 5 European Cups ifithadntbinferHeysel.

Where'e the FIFA Club World Cup money, John?

[Remmie]

It's clearly an exercise in keeping the wealthy clubs wealthy and is dangerous for competition. Don't like it one bit. Of course when it happens I'll forget all this and will us to win

[cloggypop]

It's great news for Ajax I guess, as they have to have the four times European champions there. It's going to make the Eredivisie really shite though. No other team will be able to compete with the money.

[TheHowieLama]

It is a shit idea hatched up by shitheads for a shit reason.

[Aventus]

I imagine only the first one or two tournaments will include teams like Ajax and the like, after that it'll be something like the big 4 league winners, European Cup winners and previous world club Cup winner if they don't fall into the previous categories.

[Harry Squatter]

Basically Barcelona and Real Madrid will be in it all the time. Hoovering up their domestic tv deal, the Champions League cash and then this.

 

So they can bum Malaga, Girona and Celtic Vigo 33-0 at home every year.

[dave u]

Don't see the point, as teams outside of Europe wouldn't stand a chance of winning it.

 

We already have a world club cup, it's called the Champions League.

[an tha]

Pile of shite...just like that shite they have now in January.

[sir roger]

Pile of shite...just like that shite they have now in January.

 

Shite ?

 

Sitting in the Hyper Bar in Bootle at 10am on the lagers watching Crouchie score is one of my better LFC memories.

[Ne Moe Imya]

Don't see the point, as teams outside of Europe wouldn't stand a chance of winning it.

 

We already have a world club cup, it's called the Champions League.

 

Really?

 

The point, to me, is patently obvious. As a European competition, FIFA can't get their hands on any Champions League money. Therefore, they want to organise their own, "global" competition so that they can skim their cut off the top.

 

The FIFA Club World Cup that we have now is the prototype. The problem, for FIFA, is that none of the European clubs care about it at all (making it worth a lot less). The South Americans love it, because they play their first team against the CL winners' B team and occasionally win so they can brag about how "we beat Real Madrid" or whatever. I think, at least at first, this would be pretty similar, with the European clubs mostly looking at it as a highly profitable inconvenience.

 

I hadn't even thought about the point cloggypop raises, though. If the Champions League is already consolidating one team above all the others in many leagues to a huge extent with the current format, how much worse is it going to be if there's a minimum guarantee of £50m?

 

Ajax had total revenues of about £100m last year. You're talking about handing them a bonus of 50% of their total turnover every year? That will pretty much end the Eredivisie as a thing, it will make Bayern's dominance of the Bundesliga look temporary.

 

This is an awful, awful idea. The only thing it will accomplish is to push UEFA into finally giving up and just declaring the SuperLeague thing they debate every few years as a way of cutting off FIFA at the pass. Which, I suppose, if Liverpool are a part of it it'll be great for us financially but it would be a fundamental shift in the way football works across Europe, and not for the better.

[Dr Nowt]

Any chance this thread can be merged with the shitness of modern football one please.

[Grinch]

Another champions league in the summer meaning the best players will now only get a chance to recoup once every four years (Euros, World Cup, this shite.)

 

Splendid idea but with most of modern football, money talks and it'll happen if there's enough cash involved.

[Chip Butty]

It'll be shite and probably never happen, but for the pissing off, of the blues, city, chelsea and a few more other sets of fans, I'm well in and think its an ace idea. 

[Jennings]

Sounds ace.

[an tha]

Shite ?

 

Sitting in the Hyper Bar in Bootle at 10am on the lagers watching Crouchie score is one of my better LFC memories.

Lock in from night before too!!

[Aventus]

You're talking about handing them a bonus of 50% of their total turnover every year? [/font][/color]

Will only be once every 4 years.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any chance this thread can be merged with the shitness of modern football one please.

I don't start many threads, don't take this away from me, it's the only good thing I've got going on in my life.

[jamespp]

European league will never happen because big clubs who are used to winning games and/or trophies won’t like losing games, being mid table or bottom half (someone has to) and not winning the league possibly ever, they just wouldn’t like it

[El Dangerous]

Really?

 

The point, to me, is patently obvious. As a European competition, FIFA can't get their hands on any Champions League money. Therefore, they want to organise their own, "global" competition so that they can skim their cut off the top.

 

The FIFA Club World Cup that we have now is the prototype. The problem, for FIFA, is that none of the European clubs care about it at all (making it worth a lot less). The South Americans love it, because they play their first team against the CL winners' B team and occasionally win so they can brag about how "we beat Real Madrid" or whatever. I think, at least at first, this would be pretty similar, with the European clubs mostly looking at it as a highly profitable inconvenience.

 

I hadn't even thought about the point cloggypop raises, though. If the Champions League is already consolidating one team above all the others in many leagues to a huge extent with the current format, how much worse is it going to be if there's a minimum guarantee of £50m?

 

Ajax had total revenues of about £100m last year. You're talking about handing them a bonus of 50% of their total turnover every year? That will pretty much end the Eredivisie as a thing, it will make Bayern's dominance of the Bundesliga look temporary.

 

This is an awful, awful idea. The only thing it will accomplish is to push UEFA into finally giving up and just declaring the SuperLeague thing they debate every few years as a way of cutting off FIFA at the pass. Which, I suppose, if Liverpool are a part of it it'll be great for us financially but it would be a fundamental shift in the way football works across Europe, and not for the better.

I suppose they could make qualification for it a play off from the top 4 of whatever league's the teams play in. At least it would give teams a fighting chance to break the monopoly. Not that the interest of fairness and competition has anything to do with it.

[Grinch]

We should take the money as use it as our pre season.

[The Guest]

It’s classic FIFA. You can’t just create a tournament and think fans are going to be arsed by it. It doesn’t work like that. The thing they seem to miss every single time is that it’s the fans that generate the money. The fan has to be invested in it to want to watch it and pay for that privilege. As has been mentioned it’s just that FIFA want their piece of the European money pie they’re being excluded from. The money on offer as a prize would make the domestic leagues even more unbalanced.

 

Things are going to come to a head soon. There’s surely only so long that countries can stay interested in football if it’s just not competitive and the same cunts just win the league and champions league every year. It would be depressing to be a fan in Germany or Italy right now I think. Even as a Bayern or Juve fan it would all feel so hollow.

[Aventus]

It’s classic FIFA. You can’t just create a tournament and think fans are going to be arsed by it. It doesn’t work like that. The thing they seem to miss every single time is that it’s the fans that generate the money. The fan has to be invested in it to want to watch it and pay for that privilege. As has been mentioned it’s just that FIFA want their piece of the European money pie they’re being excluded from. The money on offer as a prize would make the domestic leagues even more unbalanced.

 

Things are going to come to a head soon. There’s surely only so long that countries can stay interested in football if it’s just not competitive and the same cunts just win the league and champions league every year. It would be depressing to be a fan in Germany or Italy right now I think. Even as a Bayern or Juve fan it would all feel so hollow.

A City fan in my work is a season ticket holder, every single day after the match and I try talking to him about it he looks proper fed up, moaning that it's not fun or exciting anymore because it's not even a case of if they're gonna win or not, but how many goals they'll win by. Soulless club.

 

I imagine Bayern fans feel the same, and probably miss the Klopp at Dortmund days because it was almost competitive.

[m0e]

As long as we win this cunting one coming up in December, I couldn't give a shite.

[Red74]

Are Everton not invited ?

The mancs are their representatives for this.

[ZonkoVille77]

Not easy to masturbate to this thread.

[INTORRESTING]

A City fan in my work is a season ticket holder, every single day after the match and I try talking to him about it he looks proper fed up, moaning that it's not fun or exciting anymore because it's not even a case of if they're gonna win or not, but how many goals they'll win by. Soulless club.

I imagine Bayern fans feel the same, and probably miss the Klopp at Dortmund days because it was almost competitive.

Ha, how ridiculous . They don't win every game or every trophy. Was it soulless for us when we dominated all? I hope you told him to grow up.